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It is a big issue godless dave because it is a risky lie
It is a big issue godless dave because it is a risky lie. To say one cannot see stars from cislunar space or the surface of the moon is of course absurd. A huge lie, preposterous. So it is a huge issue because to take such a risk, to throw out there something that is so obviously untrue, is to tip one's hand and acknowledge that this huge lie must be covering an equally huge truth, a truth about the Apollo mission fraud.. Such a huge risk means there was tremendous motivation. This big lie is indeed a big clue, a big clue, if we are smart enough to follow it well.
Think about it godless dave, the Apollo 11 astronauts flew almost 3 whole days, 200,000 miles, through cislunar space and claimed to have never seen stars until here, at 02 23 56 35 of the voice transcript as quoted below. They are claiming to be on top of a moon which is now eclipsing the sun, 200,000 miles from home? The Apollo 11 Voice Transcript;
Time: 02 23 56 35
"CC: Roger. Understand that you can see the corona approximately 200 solar diameters out along the ecliptic, and the bright light extends out approximately one-eighth to one-quarter lunar radius. Over.
CDR: That's two lunar - two lunar diameters along the ecliptic in the bright part, right; a quarter to an eighth of a lunar radius out, and that's perpendicular to the ecliptic line on the South Pole.
CC: Roger.
CDR: Houston, it's been a real change for us. Now we are able to see stars again and recognize constellations for the first time on the trip. It's the sky is full of stars. Just like the nightside of Earth. But all the way here, we have only been able to see stars occasionally and perhaps through the monocular, but not recognize any star patterns.
CC: I guess it has turned into night up there really, hasn't it?
CDR: Really has."
Has it really Neil???? Can't say I buy it.
So apart from sighting stars through their optics for navigation/platform alignment, they don't see stars, none, until 3 days in as above.
Why tell such a big lie? And we know it is a big lie godless dave because back in 1969 , 1970 and the early Apollo days, they were ever so adamant about this point, NO STARS! Then when some time passed and the coast was sorta' clear, they changed their story, turned around and said they could see stars after all, a la' the MOON SHOT book jive, just as discussed above.
To try and maintain that lie in this day and age wouldn't wash, even little kids, literally, little kids know this stuff, know that observers would be able to see stars from the surface of the moon, and even better than an observer could see them from our own earth.
From NASA's own web site, LUNAR SCIENCE FOR KIDS

So it turns out the Apollo 11 astronauts pretended not to be able to see stars because if they could see stars, well then they could see laser light as well, and as I have pointed out above, admitting to their being able to see laser light would have meant big trouble for the not so very Eagle scouts, and the exposure of all Apollo Missions as fraudulent.
Neil Armstrong's ophthalmologic evaluation showed vision to be better than 20/20.
Diagnosis; No star claims bogus. Mission fraudulent!
Why is that a huge issue? Maybe he didn't read that part of the book.Maybe you're mis-remembering what you read.
I would imagine it would depend on which direction they were looking and the angle of the sun at the time they were looking. Keep in mind Armstrong and Shepard were on different missions with different landing sites. I still don't understand why it's relevant to anything.
It is a big issue godless dave because it is a risky lie. To say one cannot see stars from cislunar space or the surface of the moon is of course absurd. A huge lie, preposterous. So it is a huge issue because to take such a risk, to throw out there something that is so obviously untrue, is to tip one's hand and acknowledge that this huge lie must be covering an equally huge truth, a truth about the Apollo mission fraud.. Such a huge risk means there was tremendous motivation. This big lie is indeed a big clue, a big clue, if we are smart enough to follow it well.
Think about it godless dave, the Apollo 11 astronauts flew almost 3 whole days, 200,000 miles, through cislunar space and claimed to have never seen stars until here, at 02 23 56 35 of the voice transcript as quoted below. They are claiming to be on top of a moon which is now eclipsing the sun, 200,000 miles from home? The Apollo 11 Voice Transcript;
Time: 02 23 56 35
"CC: Roger. Understand that you can see the corona approximately 200 solar diameters out along the ecliptic, and the bright light extends out approximately one-eighth to one-quarter lunar radius. Over.
CDR: That's two lunar - two lunar diameters along the ecliptic in the bright part, right; a quarter to an eighth of a lunar radius out, and that's perpendicular to the ecliptic line on the South Pole.
CC: Roger.
CDR: Houston, it's been a real change for us. Now we are able to see stars again and recognize constellations for the first time on the trip. It's the sky is full of stars. Just like the nightside of Earth. But all the way here, we have only been able to see stars occasionally and perhaps through the monocular, but not recognize any star patterns.
CC: I guess it has turned into night up there really, hasn't it?
CDR: Really has."
Has it really Neil???? Can't say I buy it.
So apart from sighting stars through their optics for navigation/platform alignment, they don't see stars, none, until 3 days in as above.
Why tell such a big lie? And we know it is a big lie godless dave because back in 1969 , 1970 and the early Apollo days, they were ever so adamant about this point, NO STARS! Then when some time passed and the coast was sorta' clear, they changed their story, turned around and said they could see stars after all, a la' the MOON SHOT book jive, just as discussed above.
To try and maintain that lie in this day and age wouldn't wash, even little kids, literally, little kids know this stuff, know that observers would be able to see stars from the surface of the moon, and even better than an observer could see them from our own earth.
From NASA's own web site, LUNAR SCIENCE FOR KIDS

So it turns out the Apollo 11 astronauts pretended not to be able to see stars because if they could see stars, well then they could see laser light as well, and as I have pointed out above, admitting to their being able to see laser light would have meant big trouble for the not so very Eagle scouts, and the exposure of all Apollo Missions as fraudulent.
Neil Armstrong's ophthalmologic evaluation showed vision to be better than 20/20.
Diagnosis; No star claims bogus. Mission fraudulent!
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