How do truthers explain the phone calls?

[sheeplesnshills]

So someone rigged WTC 7 after they realized Flight 93 wasn't going to hit it?

No need it was already rigged because we"know" that steel framed building can't collapse due to fire so they needed to have prewired it


and since UA93 crashed at At 10:03:11 (mere minutes after the WTC2) and the North Tower WTC1 didn't collapse until 10:28 why would they need any other target???? The first tower was still there and would have been if the jet had turned and headed for NYC...........how many more cameras would have caught that shock and awe??? 10,000?

 

[NoahFence]

They would have had to smash into WTC 7 because the evil government can't afford magnets to screw with sensitive hard drives. They had to destroy the entire building

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Perhaps you missed this post further up....

'' As you may know I think that flight 93 was supposed to hit WTC7 but something went askew leaving an undestroyed building

please explain this part? what went wrong? that would leave a building and spare plane????

WTC was still up so where is there a problem for "Them"? there are hundreds of possible targets in easy range so what is this problem? "they" would know that the USAF was no place close to being able to shoot anything down even if the could find it.....the fighters closest didn't even have weapons!

 

[sheeplesnshills]

They would have had to smash into WTC 7 because the evil government can't afford magnets to screw with sensitive hard drives. They had to destroy the entire building

or even a half decent virus.......

 

[NoahFence]

or even a half decent virus.......

Literally all they had to do is get MY IT guy there to work for about a week and the entire building would have been using their computers as paperweights.

 

[bill smith]

please explain this part? what went wrong? that would leave a building and spare plane????

WTC was still up so where is there a problem for "Them"? there are hundreds of possible targets in easy range so what is this problem? "they" would know that the USAF was no place close to being able to shoot anything down even if the could find it.....the fighters closest didn't even have weapons!

Are you asking me to post a link to my full theory where this is explained along with many other apects of 9/11 ? If so people should understand that any answers must be on that thread and not here

 

[tjlance1]

Are you asking me to post a link to my full theory where this is explained along with many other apects of 9/11 ? If so people should understand that any answers must be on that thread and not here

i'm sure your theory has been thoroghly researched with supporting evidence and proof....

 

[sylvan8798]

Having seen the voice morphing technology in action (and a fairly primitive version at that) I don't think it's beyond the bounds of possibility that a lapdog could speak into a phone and have the voice of a passenger come out the other end. They would need a powerful computer and a lot of voice samples. They might even make little mistakes like accidentally giving their full name to a close loved one. Remember the passenger on flight 93 ? 'Hi Mom, it's Mark Bingham here'

So the flight 93 scenario had to be invented on the fly and they cocked it up, just like they cocked up with WTC7. A rushed job usually leaves traces as we all know.

So how did they get passenger voice samples when they were already in the air? You do realize you are talking about less than an hour here?

 

[tmd2_1]

Discusting troll is disgusting


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Do you actually want to address the video instead of calling me a troll. Tell me what it is you hear? That's clearly a man's voice saying the same things back, unbeleviably creepy. I know there's feed back, but I've never heard of this the voice isn't even the same gender as you are. There's also clearly something being said as she tries to hang up.

 

[sylvan8798]

I know there's feed back, but I've never heard of this the voice isn't even the same gender as you are. There's also clearly something being said as she tries to hang up.

I don't know what was or wasn't being said as she hung up, but is it really so hard to believe that someone else on the plane with her was trying to give her courage and support to make a phone call like that under the circumstances?

Truthers have no souls.

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Ahem...

Having seen the voice morphing technology in action (and a fairly primitive version at that) I don't think it's beyond the bounds of possibility that a lapdog could speak into a phone and have the voice of a passenger come out the other end. They would need a powerful computer and a lot of voice samples. They might even make little mistakes like accidentally giving their full name to a close loved one. Remember the passenger on flight 93 ? 'Hi Mom, it's Mark Bingham here'

It could go a bit like this. Lapdog: Okay who's next on the list then ? Um....Mark Bingham. (punches number) Ring ring.ring ring..."Hello''....'Hi Mom, it's Mark Bingham here'.. Get the point ?

Ahem.

This,

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[sheeplesnshills]

Are you asking me to post a link to my full theory where this is explained along with many other apects of 9/11 ? If so people should understand that any answers must be on that thread and not here

Oh come on bill whats the fun if you just handwave away. If the CIA are going to pay you to make twoofers look foolish then earn your money or I'm going to have to have a word with your boss. Its not Friday yet!

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Do you actually want to address the video instead of calling me a troll. Tell me what it is you hear? That's clearly a man's voice saying the same things back, unbeleviably creepy. I know there's feed back, but I've never heard of this the voice isn't even the same gender as you are. .

This might be why you never got laid........Its nothing like a mans voice.

There's also clearly something being said as she tries to hang up

There are multiple people on the plane, why would you think that was strange?

 

[Craig4]

On the 'Conspiracy Roadshow' last week an audio expert demonstrated voice morphing technology. I assume his gear was nowhere near as advanced as what the military might have- yet he was still able to record a sample of one of the female participants, type in a sentence of his own choosing and play it back. You would never have known that it was not the girl herself speaking.

You proof anyone used voicing morphing technology on 9/11? Prove anyone used it. No one cares about what could have happened. Prove what did happen.

 

[Robrob]

They would have had to smash into WTC 7 because the evil government can't afford magnets to screw with sensitive hard drives. They had to destroy the entire building

In 2001 we had an internet, intranet, hard drive backups, servers, email, floppy disks, etc... Who in their right mind thinks there was one single, un-backed up, non-redundant file of something so important that the conspiracy killed 3,000 Americans to NOT fly a plane into the building?

 

[Dash80]

Do you actually want to address the video instead of calling me a troll. Tell me what it is you hear? That's clearly a man's voice saying the same things back, unbeleviably creepy. I know there's feed back, but I've never heard of this the voice isn't even the same gender as you are. There's also clearly something being said as she tries to hang up.

Hearing other voices... on a plane with other PEOPLE on board? Yes very suspicious...

Honestly I think paranoia is affecting your hearing ability. I've seen this scumbag video before so I refuse to watch such a disgusting piece of crap again.

Sounds like someone at the end says "it's alright"

Does it not occur to you that this poor woman was scared and upset and other passengers were comforting her?

 

[tmd2_1]

I don't know what was or wasn't being said as she hung up, but is it really so hard to believe that someone else on the plane with her was trying to give her courage and support to make a phone call like that under the circumstances?

Truthers have no souls.

Is it hard to believe? No of course not. What is hard to believe, is someone was saying "You were great" as if she was acting. It's also hard to believe why it was disembodied like that. We've all been on the phone and heard other people in the background, but they sound like regular voices, not what we hear in this call. Listen carefully to the very end, you hear something very faint, but not disembodied anymore..it sounds like "testing..testing" As in testing a device. Very strange stuff.

 

[tmd2_1]

Hearing other voices... on a plane with other PEOPLE on board? Yes very suspicious...

Honestly I think paranoia is affecting your hearing ability. I've seen this scumbag video before so I refuse to watch such a disgusting piece of crap again.

Sounds like someone at the end says "it's alright"

Does it not occur to you that this poor woman was scared and upset and other passengers were comforting her?

I believe you said before you are female correct? When's the last time you were on the phone, and a male voice said the same things back to you. Like the "very much" followed by a male "very much"?

 

[ElMondoHummus]

So how did they get passenger voice samples when they were already in the air? You do realize you are talking about less than an hour here?

Yeah, if the calls were faked, it would have to have been in the air, and by people who knew about the last minute bumps and re-ticketings. There were some folks on the doomed flights who were added at the last minute:

...how did the conspirators obtain a “10-minute digital recording” of several passengers? Especially as many of the ones who made calls weren't even supposed to be Flight 93 passengers until the very last minute.

"Jeremy Glick was supposed to have been on Flight 93 a day earlier, but missed the Monday flight after getting stuck in traffic on his way to Newark Airport... Another passenger, Lauren Grandcolas was on her way home to Marin County... Originally scheduled on a later flight, she had been pleasantly surprised to easily get a standby seat on Flight 93 at the airport. “I can’t wait to see you,” she told her husband Jack in a message she left on the couple’s answering machine before dawn in California, telling him she would be home a few hours early".
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067652

And they’re not the only ones. In fact, so many people changed their plans within around 24 hours to take this flight, that has been marked up as an anomaly in itself. A Team8Plus page (http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.8) points out this also applies to Jeremy Glick (missed his flight the day before), Mark Bingham (took an extra day to recover from a birthday celebration), Honor Elizabeth Wainio (changed to a direct flight at the last minute) and possibly Edward Felt (last-minute business trip) amongst those who made phone calls, and others who didn’t.
http://911myths.com/index.php/Cellphone_calls_faked

Of course, the big "if" there is if the calls were faked. The actually logical answer is that they're genuine. But conspiracy fantasists would find that too boring...

 

[Dave Rogers]

Is it hard to believe? No of course not. What is hard to believe, is someone was saying "You were great" as if she was acting.

Or as if she were struggling to keep calm enough to relay what was happening to her and her fellow passengers despite being near-petrified by the very justified fear that she and they were about to die.

It's also hard to believe why it was disembodied like that.

Yes, because normally when somebody talks to you on the phone you can see their body.

Dave