How do truthers explain the phone calls?

[Edx]

You see there's a difference between you saying I'm wrong and me actually being wrong. I recall with the reports of molten steel, you had a lot that simply said molten metal, not steel.

!!!????

Thats it.... I am done with you, you are either a pathalogical liar or you have some kind of mental issue.

You're going to claim this is a personal attack, but frankly I have no patience for someone that will deny things that happened when anyone can go and check.

Here's the thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7442385#post7442385

As you can see I gave you multiple examples of where people said molten steel, that was the whole point of giving you those examples. I put them in big red, bold letters and yet you now act like I never said anything. There's also plenty more where that came from, I only stopped because I didn't have to time to keep looking on Google Archive all day.

Unbelievable.

You better come grovelling back to me if you want me to take you seriously, I dont see why anyone would bother with someone that literally says they don't care if their claim is false and pretends people havent said things they have said when its easy to check. But you'll still claim you havent been shown to be wrong, well this is something else in a long line of claims you've been wrong about, and you'll probably still deny that and come back a few weeks (actually probably hours) later saying no one has ever shown you were wrong about anything. No point dealing with any of your points when you act this way. You wonder why truthers get treated so badly on this forum? Its because of people like you. You are undebatable, not because you're right, but because you refuse to listen to anything anyone says, say it doesnt matter if you're wrong, and "forget" what people said to you before anyway and pretend no one has even given you an answer.

 

[LashL]

Folks, the topic of this thread is the phone calls. Please return to it, and if you want to discuss other subjects, do so in an appropriate thread. Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL

 

[dafydd]

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[sheeplesnshills]

No I know what you are trying to do, all someone had to do is rely on their own experience with phones. You try to give them some hi-tech sounding explanation for what is heard in that tape. I believe that when I point out to people to rely on their own experience, they will believe the call is suspicious.

No they won't, almost everyone in the world who uses a phone has at one time or another heard echos on the line. Most just hang up and redial, the folks on the plane probably felt they didn't have time for that

You are making a classic argument from incredulity. Just because something has not happened to you it cannot have happened to anybody. It is curious however that telephone manufacturers would try to fix a problem that you say does not even exist. Why would they do that?

 

[tmd2_1]

!!!????

Thats it.... I am done with you, you are either a pathalogical liar or you have some kind of mental issue.

You're going to claim this is a personal attack, but frankly I have no patience for someone that will deny things that happened when anyone can go and check.

Here's the thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7442385#post7442385

As you can see I gave you multiple examples of where people said molten steel, that was the whole point of giving you those examples. I put them in big red, bold letters and yet you now act like I never said anything. There's also plenty more where that came from, I only stopped because I didn't have to time to keep looking on Google Archive all day.

Unbelievable.

You better come grovelling back to me if you want me to take you seriously, I dont see why anyone would bother with someone that literally says they don't care if their claim is false and pretends people havent said things they have said when its easy to check. But you'll still claim you havent been shown to be wrong, well this is something else in a long line of claims you've been wrong about, and you'll probably still deny that and come back a few weeks (actually probably hours) later saying no one has ever shown you were wrong about anything. No point dealing with any of your points when you act this way. You wonder why truthers get treated so badly on this forum? Its because of people like you. You are undebatable, not because you're right, but because you refuse to listen to anything anyone says, say it doesnt matter if you're wrong, and "forget" what people said to you before anyway and pretend no one has even given you an answer.

I don't want to break the rules so if you want me to respond start another thread.

 

[tmd2_1]

What I did was give links to pages with actual example sound files of the specfic sorts of distortion I was referring to.

You're very bad at critical thinking and evaluation of evidence. There's zero that's suspicious of the call, and I demonstrated that with nothing more than a self-support website with example recordings.

People, this claim is vanquished. His entire argument is essentially "Nuh uhhhh". That's a fail.

You've done nothing but to try to lead people away from their natural instincts. People can listen to that tape and decide for themselves.

 

[bill smith]

I don't to derail this thread, but here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrnZd0H7o68

Wow... I wonder how Beachnut will respond. Not predictably I hope.

 

[twinstead]

There's a lot more phone calls for tmd2_1 to hand wave away than the one we've talked about.

So, tmd2_1. Start flapping

 

[Craig4]

So, would any of the truthers care to present evidence the phone calls were faked? Anyone? I'm not asking for what could have been done; I'm asking for proof of what was done.

 

[dafydd]

You've done nothing but to try to lead people away from their natural instincts. People can listen to that tape and decide for themselves.

I have decided that you are deluded regarding this subject,you appear to be beyond reason.

 

[Mr.Herbert]

I read the first and last page of this thread. Besides Bill's typical horse manure post and the side stepping from TMD, the truthers have failed to explain how these voices were faked. The conversations were intimate. How in the world would they be able to collect all those voices and know the phone numbers in the very short time they were in the plane?

The most damning proof (besides common sense) that the calls were 100% real was the call from Linda Gronlund to her sister Elsa when in addition to telling her how much she loved her, gave her the combination to her safe.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

The same as anyone else my age and I've never heard anything like that.

ignorance is not something most people boast about.
If the problem did not exist then why would people invent things to try and fix it? How old were you in 2001 and have you much experience of air phones and land lines?

 

[dafydd]

ignorance is not something most people boast about.
If the problem did not exist then why would people invent things to try and fix it? How old were you in 2001 and have you much experience of air phones and land lines?

Surely you know that truthers are experts in every field?

 

[Tricky]

A few posts have been moved to AAH as they were off-topic and occurred since the modbox above. Since they were responses to off-topic posts we haven't cleaned out from this thread, I'm not infracting anyone, but please keep it on topic henceforth.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky