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Continuation Part 3 - Discussion of the Amanda Knox case

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At least this explains where the description came from and why the term "fourth man" was used, but notice the dates:

Original Title: Fourth Suspect Emerges in Kercher Case
November 10, 2007
SOURCE: http://current.com/groups/crime/87151711_fourth-suspect-emerges-in-kercher-case.htm

Current Title: Lawyers stop Meredith coffin return
As the murdered student's body is held at the airport while defence teams demand more tests, Tom Kington in Perugia and Charlotte Franklin in Seattle report on the emergence of a possible fourth suspect
November 11, 2011
SOURCE: http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,,2209198,00.html

" ...Police are reportedly also searching for a possible fourth suspect in the killing, after a fingerprint was found in Kercher's bedroom which did not match Lumumba, Knox or Sollecito. The report has been tied to the sighting of a North African man hastily washing clothes including trainers in a nearby launderette the day after the murder... "
 
I think you are not correct about this.
The police asked RS how he could be sure Amanda was at his flat all night if he was sleeping. He replied (sarcastically I would bet) that there was no way for him to know what Amanda did while he was sleeping. In retrospect I bet he wished he would have answered....I am a very light sleeper and so I would have been awoken by any movement. I was not! This is the Non covering of the alibi mentioned by the police.

Where in the court records is this story about the 9 PM to 1 AM separation? Or is this something you are quoting from some book?


Yes, the statement is written down in Candace Dempsey's book (Murder In Italy, p. 144, according to AmyStrange).

Again, what exactly he said I don't know, but in the end he signed this statement, according to Dempsey …
 
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Randy,

are you saying this quote from "Murder in Italy" (p. 191) is wrong:

Yes...Im saying Candice got this wrong.

"Two days after police chief Arturo De Felice declared caso chiuso, the Kercher murder case broke wide open. Detectives uncovered a new suspect, dubbed the 'fourth man.' They unmasked him though old-fashioned police work, not CSI forensics or psychoanalysis from Edgardo Giobbi's Rome based SCO. They simply compared the bloody hand print found on Meredith's pillowcase to the prints provided by the three suspects. None of them matched.

I dont think they compared this hand print until after Rudys friend reported him

"The Italian press placed the 'fourth man' story way down in the coverage, where few readers noticed it. Once reporters got a name, though, once they knew who'd laid that bloody hand on Meredith's pillow, then their coverage would explode."

and this quote also (ibid. p. 219):
"On November 18, 2007, Italian police announced a world-wide manhunt for 'the fourth man.' They described him as a North African (Arab) involved in the drug trade. Even though the description didn't quite fit Rudy, Gabrielle paid a visit to the Flying Squad office in Perugia and told the officers about his missing friend."

Again all after the friend reported Rudy...IMO
I still haven't received the answer to my question, how did they know the hand print was made by a "man" and had a description (albeit sketchy description) of him before Rudy's friend went to tell them his suspicions? Even if the DNA profile found mixed with the bloody hand print reads a male, this does not mean the fingerprints were made by the same person that left the DNA. Am I missing something here?

Dave

I am not certain about the hand print. I have never seen it. Perhaps Frank has a copy of this hand print from court. Maybe it is clear enough to read the ridges and curves...I still think the police did not compare it to Rudy Guede until after his friend informed the police that Rudy might be involved. This was simply a release from the police to help them look better.
 
It's actually perfectly possible to life a latent print from a cotton pillowcase cover using standard tape techniques. Most cotton pillowcases are around 120-180 thread count - meaning that there are 120-180 separate fine threads both vertically and horizontally per square inch of the fabric. If you look at the cotton pillowcases in your house, you'll probably see that their surface is a lot smoother and flatter than you might have imagined.

It's therefore entirely reasonable to assume that a readable hand print was lifted from Meredith's pillowcase. Even fine ridge detail on fingerprints would very likely be readable, but the palm characteristics of creases and lines would most definitely be readable.

The surface of a fine cotton pillowcase is in stark contrast to the bath mat on which the blood/water partial print was made. The bath mat was made cotton (or a cotton blend) that was vertically-tufted to a height of around 2-3cm in places. Each tuft would have been capable of independent lateral movement of at least a couple of cm - a vital issue when considering a foot placement onto the mat. What's more, the pile was not of a consistent height: there was a relief pattern in the mat, resulting in differing heights of pile in different areas of the footfall. In short, there is absolutely no way whatsoever that the partial print on the mat can be either excluded as Guede's or positively identified as Sollecito's. There are simply too many huge variables. The fact that Rinaldi appears to have pulled the wool over Massei's eyes with his foot-matching pseudoscience will hopefully be properly addressed in Hellmann's court during closing arguments.

PS Epic US Open final going on right now!
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Thank you LJ,

that's definitely a (way) closer weave than a tuffed (is that the right word) bath mat weave, and I never thought the bath mat print could ever be identified as coming absolutely from either Raffaele or Rudy, although to my eyes it looks like it matches Rudy's better, but it's still ambiguous at best. I was just using it as a kind of analogy,

Dave
 
Yes, the statement is written down in Candace Dempsey's book (Murder In Italy, p. 144, according to AmyStrange).

Again, what exactly he said I don't know, but in the end he signed this statement, according to Dempsey …


I strongly suspect that the police also convinced Sollecito momentarily that he had got days mixed up in his head, and that Knox had gone out at 9pm on the night of the murder. In fact, Sollecito's initial recollection was correct: that Knox had gone out at 9pm on the previous evening - Halloween - but it's my belief that under intense police pressure he agreed that he might have mixed the days up and therefore agreed to the police suggestion that Knox had left his apartment at 9pm on the 1st November.

And I think that it was this that the police took to Knox to add to the coercion: "Amanda, your boyfriend now tells us you left his apartment at 9pm on the night of the murder. Whatever you think you remember about that evening, you are wrong. You might not be deliberately trying to mislead: there's this phenomenon called traumatic memory loss, where someone who's been involved in a traumatic incident blocks the memory of it from their mind. But undoubtedly you took Patrick to the cottage that evening, Amanda. We have evidence that you were there, and that Patrick killed Meredith; and now your boyfriend confirms to us that you went out at 9pm. Now you must remember, Amanda."
 
PS: Anyone who deliberately writes a US-based English-language blog using a French template (dates annotated as "lundi 12 septembre 2011" etc) clearly has some personal issues about the need to scream to the world: "Look everyone! I'm cosmopolitan! I Speak French! I've lived in Europe! Aren't I clever and intellectual!!" Add in the continual use of incongruous French "bon mots" (irony intended...) across all her writings, and there's enough here to keep a psychiatrist busy for quite some time.

You've absolutely nailed it. This explains her entire perspective on the case: unlike her provincial, chauvinistic neighbors in Seattle, she is worldly and sophisticated enough to know that the Italian justice system is as good as the American one, and that (therefore!) Amanda Knox is guilty -- which also shows off her seasoned cynicism, since others are so naïve as to think that young, pretty honor student couldn't commit murder. It's a version of the same disease that Nadeau is infected with: as if the facts about what happened at Via Della Pergola 7 were determined by how they best fit in to a suitably cynical narrative (that of course is flattering to themselves).

Her blog post contains outright falsehoods:

the two experts did not retest the items

(In actual fact, the first 30 pages of the report are devoted entirely to their attempted retesting of the items!)

Italy's highest court of appeals ruled that this crime had been committed by more than one person. All hope of continuing to pin it on the Lone Wolf/black guy alone vanished.

(The first sentence is at best highly misleading, and the second one totally wrong.)
 
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London John, there is no need to assume that Sollecito was confused or even that he made a statement at all. Lying to one suspect about what another suspect is saying is an old police trick. And as we have seen the Perugia police don't consider it wrong to lie to suspects. They also don't seem to mind spreading lies in the press.
 
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Thank you LJ,

that's definitely a (way) closer weave than a tuffed (is that the right word) bath mat weave, and I never thought the bath mat print could ever be identified as coming absolutely from either Raffaele or Rudy, although to my eyes it looks like it matches Rudy's better, but it's still ambiguous at best. I was just using it as a kind of analogy,

Dave


And it's not just the weave, it's the fact that the bath mat is vertically tufted in an irregular manner. Imagine when you step onto a very thick carpet: the pile of the carpet bends and moves as the weight of your foot presses into the carpet. The bath mat moves like this: only more so, and in varying amounts depending on the ridged pattern. So consequently the print that is left on the tufted pile once the foot has been removed bears only a partial resemblance to the shape of the foot that made the print. That's why pretty much the only thing one can say with any scientific confidence about that bathmat print is that it was made by an adult, probably male, with above-average foot size.

Any talk of "millimetre-accurate" measurements is risible nonsense - and we now know that Rinaldi's "matching" protocol for Sollecito consisted of him deciding that the print was likely Sollecito's by (erroneously) attributing the big toe impression to Sollecito's reference print, and then consciously matching various measurements on the bathmat print to the corresponding measurements from Sollecito's reference print that was also in front of him. It ought to go without saying to anyone of a scientific mind that this is an utterly improper, unscientific, suspect-centric method of analysis in and of itself. But the fact that the bathmat print is incapable of being measured with any accuracy in any case (owing to the factors I outlined earlier) makes Rinaldi even more of a biased idiot in my view. I trust that Hellmann's court will get a proper appraisal about this print, and will come to the correct conclusion about its worth as evidence against Sollecito.
 
Randy,

are you saying this quote from "Murder in Italy" (p. 191) is wrong:

Yes...Im saying Candice got this wrong.

"Two days after police chief Arturo De Felice declared caso chiuso, the Kercher murder case broke wide open. Detectives uncovered a new suspect, dubbed the 'fourth man.' They unmasked him though old-fashioned police work, not CSI forensics or psychoanalysis from Edgardo Giobbi's Rome based SCO. They simply compared the bloody hand print found on Meredith's pillowcase to the prints provided by the three suspects. None of them matched.

I dont think they compared this hand print until after Rudys friend reported him

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I am not certain about the hand print. I have never seen it. Perhaps Frank has a copy of this hand print from court. Maybe it is clear enough to read the ridges and curves...I still think the police did not compare it to Rudy Guede until after his friend informed the police that Rudy might be involved. This was simply a release from the police to help them look better.
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Randy,

I never once said they compared it to Rudy's until after his friend told the police his suspicions. I agreed that "Denver's" blog post didn't seem accurate, but that it was interesting that the police knew about a fourth suspect long before Rudy's friend turned him in (see my previous post "Today 04:39 PM" linking an article to this assertion). This might be from where "Denver" got his theory.

My assertion was also more along the lines that if they had Rudy's fingerprints on file, it is possible that they certainly could have compared it to the fingerprint found at the scene <B>IF</B> they had fingerprint comparison software available to do so, but that's just my opinion because I'm not aware whether they do or not or did compare it.

I never said the police compared it to Rudy's and thus knew it was his before his friend turned him in.

Sorry if I didn't make this point clearer,

Dave

ETA: Candace never made that assertion in her book either that they compared it to Rudy's fingerprint
 
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London John, there is no need to assume that Sollecito was confused or even that he made a statement at all. Lying to one suspect about what another suspect is saying is an old police trick. And as we have seen the Perugia police don't consider it wrong to lie to suspects. They also don't seem to mind spreading lies in the press.


I only reach that conclusion about what Sollecito might have said in his police interrogation on the 5th based on his retraction in front of Matteini a few days later. But I agree, other than that it's perfectly feasible that the police might have told Knox a lie like "Raffaele just said that you went out at 9pm and came back at midnight with blood all over your sweater".
 
And it's not just the weave, it's the fact that the bath mat is vertically tufted in an irregular manner. Imagine when you step onto a very thick carpet: the pile of the carpet bends and moves as the weight of your foot presses into the carpet. The bath mat moves like this: only more so, and in varying amounts depending on the ridged pattern. So consequently the print that is left on the tufted pile once the foot has been removed bears only a partial resemblance to the shape of the foot that made the print. That's why pretty much the only thing one can say with any scientific confidence about that bathmat print is that it was made by an adult, probably male, with above-average foot size.

Any talk of "millimetre-accurate" measurements is risible nonsense - and we now know that Rinaldi's "matching" protocol for Sollecito consisted of him deciding that the print was likely Sollecito's by (erroneously) attributing the big toe impression to Sollecito's reference print, and then consciously matching various measurements on the bathmat print to the corresponding measurements from Sollecito's reference print that was also in front of him. It ought to go without saying to anyone of a scientific mind that this is an utterly improper, unscientific, suspect-centric method of analysis in and of itself. But the fact that the bathmat print is incapable of being measured with any accuracy in any case (owing to the factors I outlined earlier) makes Rinaldi even more of a biased idiot in my view. I trust that Hellmann's court will get a proper appraisal about this print, and will come to the correct conclusion about its worth as evidence against Sollecito.
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I absolutely agree LJ,

tufted (that's the word thank you) weave mashes and tends to smudge any prints big time, making them virtually useless for absolute identification,

Dave
 
You've absolutely nailed it. This explains her entire perspective on the case: unlike her provincial, chauvinistic neighbors in Seattle, she is worldly and sophisticated enough to know that the Italian justice system is as good as the American one, and that (therefore!) Amanda Knox is guilty -- which also shows off her seasoned cynicism, since others are so naïve as to think that young, pretty honor student couldn't commit murder. It's a version of the same disease that Nadeau is infected with: as if the facts about what happened at Via Della Pergola 7 were determined by how they best fit in to a suitably cynical narrative (that of course is flattering to themselves).

Her blog post contains outright falsehoods:



(In actual fact, the first 30 pages of the report are devoted entirely to their attempted retesting of the items!)



(The first sentence is at best highly misleading, and the second one totally wrong.)


Perhaps SomeAlibi should be repeatedly and condescendingly tweeting her, to tell her that her whole opinion on the case is now worthless because she got these discrete details wrong :D
 
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Randy,

I never once said they compared it to Rudy's until after his friend told the police his suspicions. I agreed that "Denver's" blog post didn't seem accurate, but that it was interesting that the police knew about a fourth suspect long before Rudy's friend turned him in (see my previous post "Today 04:39 PM" linking an article to this assertion). This might be from where "Denver" got his theory.

My assertion was also more along the lines that if they had Rudy's fingerprints on file, it is possible that they certainly could have compared it to the fingerprint found at the scene <B>IF</B> they had fingerprint comparison software available to do so, but that's just my opinion because I'm not aware whether they do or not or did compare it.

I never said the police compared it to Rudy's and thus knew it was his before his friend turned him in.

Sorry if I didn't make this point clearer,

Dave

ETA: Candace never made that assertion in her book either



"Darkness Descending" states that the Perugia police made a positive ID of Guede by matching his prints against those on file from his immigration forms, before anyone came forward to name him:
Fingerprint guru Giunta had some excellent news. He phoned his boss Edgardo Giobbi at once. It was 16 November and the last fortnight had been intense.

"We have a positive identification on one of the fourteen mystery fingerprints (sic) found at the scene," Giunta revealed.

Giobbi gulped in anticipation: "Who is it?" Either if three suspects would be a result, he wished. He looked up to the heavens and held his breath.

Giunta held the suspension. "It's from the person who made the bloody handprint on the pillow we found under Meredith's body".

Giobbi: "Well, who then? Come on... tell me."

Giunta: "And guess what? It's someone we have never come across before".

Stunned silence.

Giobbi finally responded: "What? Do you mean a new fourth suspect?"

Giunta served him up: "Yes. His name is Rudy Hermann Guede"
("Darkness Descending", pp243-244)


Much as it pains me to read the purple (and clearly invented) dialogue, the clear implication is that the fingerprints division of the scientific police matched the hand print to Guede before his friend Benedetti came forward (that happened on the 17th or 18th). Whether this is a true account of what really happened or not is of course open to debate - but this is what "Darkness Descending" alleges.
 
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so all those posters here who say they have good evidence against Rudy even if the C&V report is used to eliminate his DNA evidence, because the hand-print can be linked to him, are wrong?
The recorded Skype call where Rudy says he was implausibly on a date with MK where she was stabbed by a random stranger where upon Rudy tried to stop the bleeding for a while but didn't call for an ambulance while MK slowly bled to death and so then RG went out dancing before fleeing the country is the strongest piece of evidence in the whole case.
 
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"Darkness Descending" states that the Perugia police made a positive ID of Guede by matching his prints against those on file from his immigration forms, before anyone came forward to name him:
("Darkness Descending", pp243-244)

Much as it pains me to read the purple (and clearly invented) dialogue, the clear implication is that the fingerprints division of the scientific police matched the hand print to Guede before his friend Benedetti came forward (that happened on the 17th or 18th). Whether this is a true account of what really happened or not is of course open to debate - but this is what "Darkness Descending" alleges.
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Interesting LJ,

is "Darkness Descending" a biased book, I know Candace's book tends to be biased in Amanda's favor, but that doesn't mean all the facts in it are wrong.
Just curious, because I need to read a book biased against Knox. I really think it's important to read both sides of a case, and since I've been limited to the pro-guilt sites and no books...

The way it's described where they found Guede's fingerprint doesn't sound like they used computer software to find it, but instead they found it manually.

Not that this would be an impossible task, because when they file them in a database they first give each print a code that makes it easier to eliminate them when a manual search is done, and probably also used as part of an algorithmic shortcut built into the fingerprint software search function. I used to know how this code was constructed, but that was, GAWD!, over twenty years ago.

And these two quotes from your post are interesting, because it's like they never ran across Rudy before or that they never even realized there was a fourth suspect and that they never compared the print against the three suspects they already had under arrest, but that's just my opinion:

"Giunta: 'And guess what? It's someone we have never come across before'.

"Stunned silence.

"Giobbi finally responded:'What? Do you mean a new fourth suspect?'"

Dave
 
The recorded Skype call where Rudy says he was implausibly on a date with MK where she was stabbed by a random stranger where upon Rudy tried to stop the bleeding for a while but didn't call for an ambulance while MK slowly bled to death and so then RG went out dancing before fleeing the country is the strongest piece of evidence in the whole case.
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I don't know CuriOus,

this suspiciously sounds like a lot of the evidence used to implicate Amanda? Not saying I'm right, it just seems that way to me,

Dave
 
London John, there is no need to assume that Sollecito was confused or even that he made a statement at all. Lying to one suspect about what another suspect is saying is an old police trick. And as we have seen the Perugia police don't consider it wrong to lie to suspects. They also don't seem to mind spreading lies in the press.

He was probably legitimately confused, as he was by his own admission stoned on hash on the fifth. He signed a statement, but it actually said he and Amanda parted at the town square and he went home and she went to Le Chic. That's basically what happened on Halloween, thus the speculation he was confused by the nights. Oddly enough he also 'admitted' that he called the Carabinieri after the postal police arrived, later disproven conclusively in court by correlating the cell phone records to the proper time differential on the garage camera, as it was ten minutes slow whereas police had maintained it was ten minutes fast. All of this is covered in the Matteini report, which makes for fascinating reading at this stage in the case.

In fact, this suggests to me that mistake was made early in the investigation and was one of the reasons for this debacle, and the 'hard evidence' referred to by Amanda in her note. The timestamp actually reads 8:51 on the figure crossing in front on the night of the murder, and the initial reports of it being released to press have it timed as 8:41 (or 8:43) when of course it was actually about 9:01 when it happened.

Since a camera pointing towards the road in front of the cottage seems a real obvious thing for police to be interested in, and Meredith's exact movements the night of the murder another thing you'd figure they'd key on immediately, making this polarity error they'd think it couldn't have been Meredith as she was still with the girls watching the movie thus must have been someone else, notably Amanda. The camera does not catch every person crossing, but it also caught a man headed towards the cottage shortly before, which they might have 'hypothesized' as Patrick on his way to meeting up with Amanda at the cottage, his SIM card indicating he was in the vicinity at this time.

They might also note that with the time differential reversed and either the sloppy postal police records of their arrival, or Raffaele's phone records, that it appears that Raffaele must have called the Carabinieri after the Postal Police arrive. They are suspicious! So much so that they don't stop to think just how strange it is to suspect that Raffaele and Amanda actually tried hide the discovery of the body and were overly alarmed by the arrival of the postal police with context of them calling all over everywhere, trying to break down the door, and asking the Postal Police in to investigate anyway, when they could have just sent them on their way and later said it was trying to return the phones to Meredith that they became alarmed, if they really wanted to delay discovery and finish a clean-up. However I think the pure coincidence of the mop movements and Raffaele's 'suspicious' pipe breaking caused them to lose sight of that.

It seems to me the most plausible sequence of events is that the police wanted to talk to both Raffaele and Amanda as due to reversing the polarity of the CCTV time differential they thought they had 'hard evidence' Raffaele had called the Carabinieri after the arrival of the postal police, and that figure looks vaguely female and 'couldn't' be Meredith as they'd tracked her movements at that point, thus they 'hypothesized' that was Amanda in the camera capture, they noted she'd messaged Patrick shortly before all this and used a phrase that suggested a definite future meeting that night, they might have had other reasons to be suspicious of Patrick, they were suspicious of Amanda not properly playing La Bella Figura, and they admitted to playing with mops!

So they call them in, Raffaele is stoned and they get their 'admission' that he called the Carabinieri after the postal police arrived, that he and Amanda parted around that time the night of the murder, and either he said she'd asked him to lie or that he'd just went with her version of events (I never did get conclusive answer on how that should have been translated 'influence from the girl') but at any rate we know from Amanda's note they told her that Raffaele had told them she asked him to lie to them, and at this point they're absolutely sure that figure in the CCTV capture has to be Amanda, 'their hard evidence,' and that text to Patrick is just too big a coincidence for them to ignore, especially with the male figure also caught on the camera walking towards the cottage.

I think that's what probably happened, and as they at this point don't have reason to suspect Raffaele actually being involved in the murder, but perhaps helping with the clean up the next day and lying for Amanda, which explains why he just sits there after his 10:40 statement is signed and they put the screws to Amanda, and Raffaele barely receives a mention in either statement. That's just weird, as they'll arrest him later anyway, and they got all those 'admissions' from him when he first walked in, if they actually thought him involved in the murder part that just doesn't make sense, nor does spending all that time with Amanda about Patrick when the boyfriend they have in the next room has told them he 'lied' about the Carabinieri call and Amanda's alibi. I suspect later on when they make the mistake with the shoeprints and arrest him Raffaele is no longer stoned, pissed off, and not talking. Thus he goes from a probable accomplice to just the 'clean-up' and 'cover-up' to actually being involved in the murder.

At any rate, them making that mistake with the CCTV camera polarity early on suggests a scenario which explains the otherwise unlikely event of Raffaele 'admitting' he called the Carabinieri after the arrival of the postal police, and that they'd even think it likely and press him for that 'admission' being as it really doesn't make much sense in the context of the events that afternoon, but they might have looked at their actions much differently if they thought they had 'hard evidence' that Raffalele called after the postal police arrived, and that Amanda must have met Patrick at the cottage around the time of the murder, as the CCTV camera seems to suggest two people, a male and a female, arriving at the cottage shortly after Amanda's text with Patrick inadvertently implying in Italian she would be meeting Patrick that night.
 
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What is your source for that information? I've read it on PMF but it seemed like an obvious lie to me because it is totally contradicted by Mignini in his CNN interview. It would also be very weird for Italian law to have a rule against recording interviews/interrogations without a lawyer since that is actually exactly the kind of situation in which a recording would help the suspect the most.

I'll try and find my notes as to which articles apply to this, but you can run this thru Google and it is fairly understandable. It is pretty clear that in his interviews Mignini is concerned only with the requirement for taping the second interview at 5:45AM.

http://www.altalex.com/index.php?idnot=2011

ETA: the taping and lawyer are required at the point she "officially" became a suspect, after the 1:45AM statement.
 
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Hi Rose, I have a question for you, as I very much respect your opinions. On the night of the interrogations, weren't there like 12 people taking turns interrogating Amanda? Also, weren't there some who travelled from Rome to attend this interrogation? This leads me to belive that she was a suspect before she was interrogated. Or is it normal practice in Italy to conduct interrogations with so many officials, including some from Rome. Amanda was heard screaming too. It all smells rotten to me.

I believe they all signed her arrest order which I thought I used to have a copy of. In any case, here is a list of 8 after 4 dropped out of the calumnia case against Amanda (from Candace's blog)

These police officers are suing Amanda Knox for slander. Four dropped out. Their lawyer is Francesco Marcesca, a Florentine who also represents the victim’s family.

1. Marco Chiacchiera, vice director, flying squad (in Questura control room).
2. Edgardo Giobbi, head of SCO, Rome (Questura control room).
3. Monica Napoleoni, homicide chief, Flying Squad (went back and forth between Amanda and Raffaele Sollecito’s interrogation rooms and Questura control room).
4. Lorena Zugarini, Flying Squad. (Amanda’s room).
5. Rita Ficarra, Flying Squad (Amanda’s room).
6. Fabio D’Astolto, Flying Squad (saw Knox on Nov. 2).
7. Ivano Raffo, SCO, Rome (Amanda’s room).
8. Anna Donnino, Flying Squad Interpreter (Amanda’s room).
 
Yeah, somebody else pointed most of that out. It was an intriguing idea, but obviously away with the fairies.

Rolfe.

LOL. Another one.

Me and my fairy friends are going to laugh our fairy asses off when Raffaele is declared not guilty.
 
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