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I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient. Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?
 
I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient. Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?

Everyone? You appear not to have noticed that this is a skeptic's site and that the vast majority of us do not believe in the existence of any god or gods. Which one of the many gods that mankind has invented are you referring to? If you have proof of the existence of a god,present it and then we can have a discussion.
 
I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient. Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?

I suggest you outline your ideas and compose your post a little more, I would like to understand it, but I can't.
 
I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient. Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?

What does 'is knows does evil 'mean? It's not English.
 
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I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Not a native English speaker, are you? That's fine, I'm just making sure. It can be very difficult to discuss esoteric subjects with one who has less than a good grasp of the language. What they say isn't always what they meant to say. Rephrasing arguments and points for clarity results in unintentional strawmen. So it's simply good to know the person to whom you're speaking has a different native tongue in which he could probably express himself quite clearly, and he should be given a break.

As to the idea of the concept of god being a pleasing concept...not for everyone, it isn't. Nor is the concept of what the world could or should be like if there actually were a god all that pleasing.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient.

Question: which god do you mean? Vishnu? Oshun? Wakan-Tanka? Jehovah? YHWH?

Suffice to say that many of the gods invented by humans have been given this attribute of omniscience. It means "all-knowing." If you are speaking of one of those gods, then the reason people "throw it around very loosely" is because that is the way those gods have always been portrayed.

Perhaps you are, instead, speaking of one of those gods who has never been attributed with omniscience? Hard to tell, though, since you don't actually say.

So, again, which god do you mean?


Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

When you are going to pile words together like that, it is customary in English to use a slash / to separate them for clarity. "Is knows does" is not a logical linguistic construction in English, and it took me several moments to parse meaning from your construction. Better to write "is/knows/does." Also, when using plural pronouns, use plural verbs. Not "them who is/knows/does," but "those who are/know/do."

Your premise is not reflected by reality. There is no such thing as a person who is, knows, and does only good or only evil. People aren't like that. If a god were going to do that, it would be known only to that god, anyway. The "completely good all the time" people on the one world do not know there is another world of people who are "completely bad all the time."

So what would be the point of this particular creation?

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

You don't get out much into the world, do you? People don't usually stab other people because they like it. They have widely varying reasons, and rarely is that reason simple pleasure or fun. They do it for gain, or out of high emotion, or for protection. Not as a hobby or pastime.

The people on the stabbity planet probably don't exist anymore. If they lived for nothing but the pleasure and fun of killing each other, it probably didn't last very long. And now they're all dead. So, what was the point, again?

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Right. So the planet with the people who are good and nice and not stabbity ever...do they have any problems? Because we tend to invent technology to solve problems. And history...that's just rife with things like wars and conflicts. Nice people don't have any of those, do they?

And the bad, mean, stabbity people...they have nothing but wars, right? Always fighting, always killing...how long does this planet keep a viable population again? Do they ever get time to invent things or learn things? Or are they too busy stabbing and dying?

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?

Um, yeah. I can see nothing but downsides. It's a ridiculous notion, worthy of a small child who has no worldly experience yet.


Hey, you asked.
 
I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient. Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?

I have a question that I do not ask to be mean/nasty and I want to make that very clear before I ask it.

The question: is English your first language?

I ask because some of your sentence structure/word order is unclear and that would be the most likely reason for that.
 
Certain conclusions might be drawn from this:


Sorry, I cannot work out what your example is. Could you try to make it clear? I don't know of anywhere where sex is legal at a certain age but marriage is not. I also don't understand who is supposed to be suing whom; the believer or the non-believer.

Australia, marriage age is 18 and you cant legally have sex till 16.
 
I posted this in another thread and thought it could be worthily of discussion as the concept would indeed please many people.

Everyone throws around here very loosely, that God is omniscient. Could he have not just created 2 separate universes. One for them who is knows does good and one for them who is knows does evil - for debating reasons over the whole expand of ones life.

Imagine earth full of people who we would convict and right next to them, another earth full of people who would never be convicted. Let them who like to stab each other do it to their own kind, while them to like to not stab each other do it to their own kind.

Any technology both earth's/universe invent, they keep, any information about our each world's society passed down, aswell as history just like its done now with both parties in the one universe.

Could you see any downsides to this, apart from the fact noone would like to make the choice to visit an evil earth?

World of Warcraft.
 
just wow, what is so hard to understand how making 2 earths, one for good and one for bad? doesn't matter if you believe or not it is a pretty simple idea... Hell and Heaven become reality before your death in terms of judgement on ones life which God being omni, would already know.

God as in God. In my 2 days of traveling through the topics, as far as i can tell, atheists like to blindly use 'God is omni' and throw a wild 'fairy tale' after as a what if. This is all i have done, i copied an atheist.

basically tells me since you tried to start an argument, you would place yourself in the 'evil' section, so you have come in here defensive and attacking the idea.

The technology is entertainment, medicine, u name it but how can the side that God picked to be 'good' start a civil war? God is omni remember.
 
just wow, what is so hard to understand how making 2 earths, one for good and one for bad? doesn't matter if you believe or not it is a pretty simple idea... Hell and Heaven become reality before your death in terms of judgement on ones life which God being omni, would already know.

God as in God. In my 2 days of traveling through the topics, as far as i can tell, atheists like to blindly use 'God is omni' and throw a wild 'fairy tale' after as a what if. This is all i have done, i copied an atheist.

basically tells me since you tried to start an argument, you would place yourself in the 'evil' section, so you have come in here defensive and attacking the idea.

The technology is entertainment, medicine, u name it but how can the side that God picked to be 'good' start a civil war? God is omni remember.

The major and most obvious problem with your idea is that no one is 100% good and no one is 100% evil. Some might be better than average, some might be worse, but no one is pure either way.
 
God as in God. In my 2 days of traveling through the topics, as far as i can tell, atheists like to blindly use 'God is omni' and throw a wild 'fairy tale' after as a what if. This is all i have done, i copied an atheist.


I've been here a little over two days and haven't come across these particular atheists yet.

Perhaps you have a link?
 
The major and most obvious problem with your idea is that no one is 100% good and no one is 100% evil. Some might be better than average, some might be worse, but no one is pure either way.

True in a sense i spose, but in the theory we all like to debate, people go to heaven and people go to hell and people are on earth/universe.

I've been here a little over two days and haven't come across these particular atheists yet.

Perhaps you have a link?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/search.php?searchid=232259
 
I didn't think i would have got this much flak for this. Personally i think its a brilliant idea and should have been done this way, if God is real. All good people mingling with no worries about having to look over your shoulder, no rip off artist's, no rape, murder you name it. While the evil folks are angry they cant inflict pain on good people and have to watch every step they make.
 
I didn't think i would have got this much flak for this.


You're getting flak because you're posting gibberish.


Personally i think its a brilliant idea and should have been done this way, if God is real.


There's your problem right there.


All good people mingling with no worries about having to look over your shoulder, no rip off artist's, no rape, murder you name it. While the evil folks are angry they cant inflict pain on good people and have to watch every step they make.


And you think you're the first one to ever think up this naive bilge, do you?
 
No, then. What a surprise.

That was about all the time i felt i needed to put into providing a link to a post where it was used to a man who has been on this forum since 2007 with over 10,000 posts and more likely to have seen that phrase used by either party, believer or non-believer.

And you think you're the first one to ever think up this naive bilge, do you?
Perhaps, first one to say it maybe. But just like how the multiply effects works, i doubt the first to think it.
 
No, then. What a surprise.


That was about all the time i felt i needed to put into providing a link to a post where it was used to a man who has been on this forum since 2007 with over 10,000 posts and more likely to have seen that phrase used by either party, believer or non-believer.


What phrase?

You were asked for an explanation for this wierd assertion:

God as in God. In my 2 days of traveling through the topics, as far as i can tell, atheists like to blindly use 'God is omni' and throw a wild 'fairy tale' after as a what if. This is all i have done, i copied an atheist.

and a link to a search for "God, omniscient" doesn't even come close to providing one.

If you're disinclined to take the time to answer questions in a meaningful way then you're not going to get much sympathy when people fail to take the drivel that you post seriously.


And you think you're the first one to ever think up this naive bilge, do you?


Perhaps, first one to say it maybe. But just like how the multiply effects works, i doubt the first to think it.


I can't wait to hear an explanation of how the multiply effects operate.
 

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