Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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FreemanMenard said:
I am assuming though you are not misrepresenting your lack of education, as that would be fraud.
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Yes, it would be like charging someone $800 for legal advise that you were not competent or qualified to provide.
 
FreemanMenard said:
If someone is silly enough to want to let you do so, and you want to do so, and both parties are consenting, how can they stop you? I am assuming though you are not misrepresenting your lack of education, as that would be fraud.
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wow. So in your fantasy world I can do serious harm to another and no one can stop me?

Do you think this is a good thing?
 
D'rok said:
C'mon, everyone knows that University of Youtube is the best legal education available.
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Sorry D'rok, you're right.

I'll forget my university and legal training and my many years of legal practice, the likes of Rob, St Clair, Harris, the Antiterrorist etc know the law much better. It's so evident from the quality of their advice and all those freeman success stories.

The lawyers have really missed a trick. It should be possible to retire early on the fortunes that could be round the corner from Rob's advice - "hey, got a problem with the law? It's no problem at all, just tell them that you didn't consent to the law in the first place and it doesn't apply anymore. That'll be $800 please."

:D

[FOOTNOTE: the "advice" outlined above is not the advice of the writer but is highlighted to illustrate the idiocy of such teachings from Menard et al. The writer assumes no responsibility for such "advice" but instead recommends that anyone who does require legal advice speaks to a qualified lawyer and avoids listening to crackpots on the University of YouTube etc.]
 
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So Rob, how are you getting on with that question answering you claimed to do
And I do answer questions
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after all
those who know {you} know {you are} honest
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and you wouldn't want to prove yourself a liar would you.
 
cocana said:
[FOOTNOTE: the "advice" outlined above is not the advice of the writer but is highlighted to illustrate the idiocy of such teachings from Menard et al. The writer assumes no responsibility for such "advice" but instead recommends that anyone who does require legal advice speaks to a qualified lawyer and avoids listening to crackpots on the University of YouTube etc.]
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Shill! Slave! Go back to your Lizard masters!
 
FreemanMenard said:
You did not mention serious harm.....
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What about it? I don't think I've caused serious harm. That infection would have happened anyway because the nasty spirits already possessed the patient's body.

You can tell that by the smell.

So, no one can stop me doing this stuff?
 
Did you forget to recite the incantation to Bes again?

Anyway, I don't see why a spot of trepanning, some judicious bleeding and a quick trip to the shaman shouldn't sort the patient right out.
 
Menard. You often refer to "The law" and "Common law" that you follow. But what is it that you mean by those terms? In your understanding what is the basis for them and where can one look them up?
 
I have a couple of friends interested in this and they keep telling me how I should care about it and how I am a slave. JARGON BUSTER helped me out on another thread...

...oh, so sorry, I should have said jargon buster. The capital letters make a difference :D

I just can't fathom what the benefits of all this really are????
I am quite happy to be in a society that has laws and regulations. Of course there are plenty of things I don't agree with, such as all the tax money that governments waste each year. However I feel we need a government of sorts in a society this large and complicated.

Is there an island somewhere that all the fotl can live?? I can't help but think it would be a great social experiment, although maybe W Golding predicted such an experiment in Lord of the Flies and the probable results :)
 
It seems discussion on this forum takes the form of mockery, sarcasm, endless fallacies and derision.

Some of you people sound like middle school kids making fun of someone whose beliefs you do not share, and which you refuse to examine.

Very classy forum you have here.
Very classy....

I guess debunking here is merely denying and deriding until discussion is rendered impossible.

None of you have explained how they can govern their fellow man without consent and without destroying the concept of equality.

But you have so much fun with your sophomoric rhetoric and avoidance of the actual issues being discussed and you seem to think that means you won the argument.

Throwing tomatoes at the blackboard so it cannot be used does not negate the truth of the equations upon it.

If you personally cannot govern me without my consent, and you can't hire someone to do so, then you fail in your argument, and your endless insults and derision simply highlights the fact that you have no argument, nor ability to understand mine.

But you do make us all laugh!
 
Jaynbob42 said:
I have a couple of friends interested in this and they keep telling me how I should care about it and how I am a slave. JARGON BUSTER helped me out on another thread...

...oh, so sorry, I should have said jargon buster. The capital letters make a difference :D

I just can't fathom what the benefits of all this really are????
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For those who practice it? None. For those who sell it and promote it without actually practicing it, like Mr. Menard here? Some - mainly a few bucks and some attention.
I am quite happy to be in a society that has laws and regulations. Of course there are plenty of things I don't agree with, such as all the tax money that governments waste each year. However I feel we need a government of sorts in a society this large and complicated.

Is there an island somewhere that all the fotl can live?? I can't help but think it would be a great social experiment, although maybe W Golding predicted such an experiment in Lord of the Flies and the probable results :)
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The conch would be smashed in seconds on FOTL island.
 
FreemanMenard said:
It seems discussion on this forum takes the form of mockery, sarcasm, endless fallacies and derision.

Some of you people sound like middle school kids making fun of someone whose beliefs you do not share, and which you refuse to examine.

Very classy forum you have here.
Very classy....

I guess debunking here is merely denying and deriding until discussion is rendered impossible.

None of you have explained how they can govern their fellow man without consent and without destroying the concept of equality.

But you have so much fun with your sophomoric rhetoric and avoidance of the actual issues being discussed and you seem to think that means you won the argument.

Throwing tomatoes at the blackboard so it cannot be used does not negate the truth of the equations upon it.

If you personally cannot govern me without my consent, and you can't hire someone to do so, then you fail in your argument, and your endless insults and derision simply highlights the fact that you have no argument, nor ability to understand mine.

But you do make us all laugh!
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With this post, you almost managed to distract me and make me forget that you couldn't provide a source for your made up definition of "statute" and that you have yet to provide a single example of a successful FOTL defence in court. In fact, you almost made me forget that you haven't provided a scintilla of support for any of your idiotic claims.
 
cocana said:
Sorry D'rok, you're right.

I'll forget my university and legal training and my many years of legal practice, the likes of Rob, St Clair, Harris, the Antiterrorist etc know the law much better. It's so evident from the quality of their advice and all those freeman success stories.

The lawyers have really missed a trick. It should be possible to retire early on the fortunes that could be round the corner from Rob's advice - "hey, got a problem with the law? It's no problem at all, just tell them that you didn't consent to the law in the first place and it doesn't apply anymore. That'll be $800 please."

:D

[FOOTNOTE: the "advice" outlined above is not the advice of the writer but is highlighted to illustrate the idiocy of such teachings from Menard et al. The writer assumes no responsibility for such "advice" but instead recommends that anyone who does require legal advice speaks to a qualified lawyer and avoids listening to crackpots on the University of YouTube etc.]
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Since you are a lawyer, or claim to be, care to comment on this:

http://www.camagazine.com/archives/print-edition/2002/march/features/camagazine23329.aspx

Especially this part:

These detaxers think they can know law without having any legal training. They read something that looks like it is written in English, but it's not, it's actually law and they think they understand it."

And while you are at it, tell me what are the two official languages in Canada, and if the Acts are not written in them, are the lawful?

Thanks!
 
FreemanMenard said:
These detaxers think they can know law without having any legal training. They read something that looks like it is written in English, but it's not, it's actually law and they think they understand it."
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The irony is that the line you quote appears to be incomprehensible to you.

To any normal person it merely means that de-taxers take everything in it's most simplistic literal sense, whereas the law is much more complicated than that and you need proper training to comprehend it.

It would be like me saying I will be using the information superhighway tonight and you thinking I mean an actual road.
 
D'rok said:
With this post, you almost managed to distract me and make me forget that you couldn't provide a source for your made up definition of "statute" and that you have yet to provide a single example of a successful FOTL defence in court. In fact, you almost made me forget that you haven't provided a scintilla of support for any of your idiotic claims.
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You previously stated you did not wish to discuss.

So be it.


Since I am not the one claiming the right to govern another without their consent, the onus is on you to prove you can.

Still waiting....
 
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