Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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Hello Rob

The exits there >>>>>

See how long it takes before you use it.

Your here again?
Whats wrong , no one on WFS listening to you any more?
You my little cyber friend are undone, your nonsense is exposed, its job done mate.
 
I didn't avoid; I answered -

Of course you did... :rolleyes:

Your question is daft and/or intended to avoid the issue, highlighted once again by you avoiding what I put to you -



Now, to the rest of your post



Now we're getting somewhere. You don't deny it. Sources elsewhere suggest you did sell him the package.
Do you claim you were there? I said I don't remember. Nice how you twist it.


On what basis? Everything suggests that he followed your advice to the letter.
Well then you must know what I said to him, right? Were you there and if not, how do you know what was even said? You are operating fully on baseless assumptions.


Because people who, like you, hold themselves out as being in a position of being able to give legal advice owe duties in the process. If a lawyer gives bad advice which is relied upon he is liable for the consequences. Whether the recipient should have known better or not is immaterial.

I share my beliefs, that is all. IS that unlawful?

Yes, you are responsible.
So, he's not? :rolleyes:


Already answered, repeatedly. No, statutes do not require your consent. They are not contracts.

Can you prove that? The question was (seriously try to develop some reading comprehension!) DO STATUTES REQUIRE CONSENT? Ever read the enacting clause of the Acts? Why is the word consent specifically therein? Clearly statutes do require consent, of the legislature, and they require the consent of the people.

If neither party agrees to a contract, there is no contract. Arguably this is one means of "avoiding" a contract. There isn't one in the first place. It isn't daft at all but it has nothing to do with statutes, which are your baby. JB isn't daft, but your constant repeating of this question is, as described.
Thank you. Make sure you tell JB he was very wrong claiming that FMOTL was self debunking, by stating that if I did not agree with his rules, he could refuse to agree with the law.

Once again - are you going to provide the proof to support your claim about not being bound by statutes because you don't consent to them? "Yes or no" as you say.
Sure. But you won't or can't read or think it seems, so you will miss it.
Read Section 39 of the Criminal Code.



Looks to me like the answer is "no". For someone who sells advice claiming that you have the means to avoid all statutory liabilities, your inability to address this point is positively criminal.
More assumptions driven by ignorance and fear, without any basis in truth. I do not sell advice. Period. But your entire argument is based on the belief I do, and you ask I defend that strawman.


I'll check in later to look at your latest efforts to avoid. One thing's for sure, you won't answer my question because you can't. You can't answer my question because you don't have the answers. By selling advice claiming that you do, you are acting dishonestly. Very well done JB for hounding you on this. I wish more people did.

More selling advice? So you admit he was 'hounding' me. And then I am the one obsessed right? hahahahah


PS - thank you ComfySlippers.[/QUOTE]



IS consent necessary? Lets test it!
HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, enacts as follows:

Looks like consent is needed after all. It says it right there. Do you consider that proof? Remember, (although due to your inability to read properly you added words to my question) the question was DO STATUTES REQUIRE CONSENT? The answer to that is clearly yes.

Now the question is, can the people in the legislature do anything without the consent of the people? Pretty sure if you ask them, they will tell you no, they need the consent of the people.

Now ask, can you consent to a contract, and bind me with it cause you agreed to it? And if not, what makes a statute any different?

Finally, the Queen herself has disavowed having any power over the people of Canada, and her enactments are not binding on me, for she is not my Queen, without my consent. And read it carefully, it was HER that enacted it, not the Legislature. Don't believe me? READ IT AGAIN!

HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, enacts as follows:

Who is doing the enacting? The legislature or HER MAJESTY?
If the latter, and she is not my boss or queen, why would I have to follow it?

Can you explain THAT?

Or will you insult and avoid?
 
Hello Rob

The exits there >>>>>

See how long it takes before you use it.

Your here again?
Whats wrong , no one on WFS listening to you any more?
You my little cyber friend are undone, your nonsense is exposed, its job done mate.

Really? Was it not you who a year ago said it was dead in the water? Have you not been obsessed with it since?

:D

HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, enacts as follows:

But consent is not required you said... seems it is in fact required....
And the Queen states she has no power in Canada to make laws...

Hmm....
 
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HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, enacts as follows:

Then
Now the question is, can the people in the legislature do anything without the consent of the people? Pretty sure if you ask them, they will tell you no, they need the consent of the people.


hahahahahahahahahhahaahhaha

Consent of the people is a little different than consent of every single individual. :D:D

You quote a statement then manage to spin it out of all context, I think you just did a "Menard"
 
Follow-up question in Westminster Civics 101:

What does "Responsible Government" mean a) generally, and b) specifically with respect to the relationship between the Crown and the Legislature?

Really? Was it not you who a year ago said it was dead in the water? Have you not been obsessed with it since?

:D

HER MAJESTY, by and with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, enacts as follows:

But consent is not required you said... seems it is in fact required....
And the Queen states she has no power in Canada to make laws...

Hmm....
Excellent. So you agree that Canada has Responsible Government.

Now, will you be providing any evidence that your personal consent is required?
 
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hahahahahahahahahhahaahhaha

Consent of the people is a little different than consent of every single individual. :D:D

You quote a statement then manage to spin it out of all context, I think you just did a "Menard"

So do you agree with Elizabeth when she states she is merely a figurehead with no power to make laws?

Do you agree with judges who state that the power to govern in a common law jurisdiction comes from the consent of the governed?
 
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So do you agree with Elizabeth when she states she is merely a figurehead with no power to make laws?
Evidence please

Do you agree with judges who state that the power to govern in a common law jurisdiction comes from the consent of the governed?
Evidence please
 
Excellent. So you agree that Canada has Responsible Government.

WOW are you guys ever desperate! When did I agree to that? Wait I see what you did! Can I do it too??

Now, will you be providing any evidence that your personal consent is required?

Excellent, so you agree that personal consent is required. See I did it too! Is that how we discuss now?


Since it is enacted by HER MAJESTY, and she states she does not have the power to make laws in Canada, how could it possibly have the force of law, without consent?

Do you have any proof that HER MAJESTY has power to enact anything in Canada?

Do you claim the power to consent for others? If not, then who has the power to consent for me?

:D

You guys are soooo funny. But don't worry, JB has proclaimed victory!
 
WOW are you guys ever desperate! When did I agree to that? Wait I see what you did! Can I do it too??



Excellent, so you agree that personal consent is required. See I did it too! Is that how we discuss now?


Since it is enacted by HER MAJESTY, and she states she does not have the power to make laws in Canada, how could it possibly have the force of law, without consent?

Do you have any proof that HER MAJESTY has power to enact anything in Canada?

Do you claim the power to consent for others? If not, then who has the power to consent for me?

:D

You guys are soooo funny. But don't worry, JB has proclaimed victory!
You provided evidence of Responsible Government. Mistakenly, I assumed that you were capable of understanding what you posted.

Now that I realize my error, please present some evidence that personal consent is required. That would move things forward quite nicely.
 
Good news everyone! Here's how you can beat a charge of disorderly conduct in BC provincial court:

This can only end well.

It worked for me. The full name of the city is "The Corporation of the City of Vancouver".

Do we have to argue about whether corporations require contracts to issue invoices and demand payment?:rolleyes:

I love how hard you all try, and deeply respect how you keep trying even after endless failures...:D
 
Oow I'm going to look forward to coming back to this later! No time now as I suspect my next post could be long. Suffice to state in the meantime that Rob has so totally displayed his own ignorance and powers of self debunking that this is going to be fun!
 
So you do agree. Thanks!
Nope
try these Rob
So do you agree with Elizabeth when she lies when she states she is merely a figurehead with no power to make laws?

Do you agree with judges who lie when they state that the power to govern in a common law jurisdiction comes from the consent of the governed?
 
You provided evidence of Responsible Government. Mistakenly, I assumed that you were capable of understanding what you posted.

Now that I realize my error, please present some evidence that personal consent is required. That would move things forward quite nicely.

Where is evidence of responsible government? How do you see it in that?

Oh well, you make **** up all the time anyway.

Personal consent is required due to the rule of law, which states we are all equal. IF consent is not, we are not equal, are we? But we are all equal, so it is.

Seems obvious to me, and to anyone else who knows the law.

:D
 
Nope
try these Rob
So do you agree with Elizabeth when she lies when she states she is merely a figurehead with no power to make laws?

Do you agree with judges who lie when they state that the power to govern in a common law jurisdiction comes from the consent of the governed?

I thought you said it was job done JB?

I guess you lied again eh?

Still just doing it for light hearted relief? Or to save the world from ideas you do not like?


Is it 'job done' or not?
If you reply, clearly it is not...

:D
 
Personal consent is required due to the rule of law, which states we are all equal. IF consent is not, we are not equal, are we? But we are all equal, so it is.

Seems obvious to me, and to anyone else who knows the law.

and the "menardgoaround" continues.

If thats true Rob then you couldnt maintain order in your freeman society.
 
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