It would be helpful if you could show us videos of real detonations of explosives in office buildings (or similar). Maybe from real CDs?
If you look, for example, at the Landmark Tower implosion in Fort Worth, texas:
You will notice that the explosions (which happen before the collapse begins - don't ever forget that!) show more as bright flashes of light, and very little by way of squibs.
Major ejections of dust clouds happen only after collapse has begun, and explosions have seized.
To me, it looks in both cases very much like the dust ejections are not causes by explosives, but by the collapse itself, as the volume of the building gets greatly reduced and air is forced out of collapsing floors at high speed.
Or here is the Aladdin implosion in Vegas:
Starting at about 1:00, you see lots of flashes, but hardly any dust. A women comments that: "Look at all the flashes!".
Significant dust ejections only after the last charges have detonated, and as the building is already collapsing.
Once again, it appears like explosives can be seen by the flashes, and gravitational collapse by the displaced air which carries lots of dust.
Or here is the Everglades Hotel:
From the beginning, at 0:10, you hear lots and lots of BANGs of explosive charges - but no dust puffs!
At 0:18, collapse begins visibly, and only after that, around 0:19, do you see the first dust ejections.
Again, it seems very much like dust ejections are a result of the collapse, not of the explosives.
Oh, Clayton, have you ever seen buildings demolished by a technique called "Verinage"? It doesn't use explosives at all.
Two videos that show verinage demolitions:
Lo and behold: We see high-speed lateral ejections of dust in both videos - yet we KNOW for a fact that no explosives were involved!
Yes show me the expertise about the pyrotechnic materials and the explosives. A Torpedoman's Mate is not the evidence... I could also show my drivers license, but it has nothing to do with it.
A typical debunker, they cant use a mirror, to see they are contradicting theirselves.. Its unbelievable
If you showed your drivers license it would show that you knew how to drive. Sane people wouldn't then go on to say that you have never seen a car before or that if you did then you didn't know how it worked.
I showed you what my job was. You obviously looked it up on the internet to find out what it entailed, you even posted some of it.
Do you really think that someone who worked with torpedoes and other weapons and weapons systems on submarines as a primary job description (it's right in the ratings name for dogs sake, how much simpler can that be?), that had attained the rank of E-6 (no easy feat on it's own when you take into account that it happened in six years and I started out as an undesignated FN E-1), that had eight patrols under his belt with five years of sea duty and that clearly had supervisory positions where torpedoes and other conventional explosives carried onboard were concerned, wouldn't be expected to know as much as possible about the dangerous materials that he was responsible for and worked with day in and day out?
Are you really that dense or do you have to work at it? Because based on what you've said so far you are getting really close to osmium levels (I know that's probably a hard word for you, go look it up).
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Are you really that dense or do you have to work at it? Because based on what you've said so far you are getting really close to osmium levels (I know that's probably a hard word for you, go look it up).
If you showed your drivers license it would show that you knew how to drive. Sane people wouldn't then go on to say that you have never seen a car before or that if you did then you didn't know how it worked.
I showed you what my job was. You obviously looked it up on the internet to find out what it entailed, you even posted some of it.
Do you really think that someone who worked with torpedoes and other weapons and weapons systems on submarines as a primary job description (it's right in the ratings name for dogs sake, how much simpler can that be?), that had attained the rank of E-6 (no easy feat on it's own when you take into account that it happened in six years and I started out as an undesignated FN E-1), that had eight patrols under his belt with five years of sea duty and that clearly had supervisory positions where torpedoes and other conventional explosives carried onboard were concerned, wouldn't be expected to know as much as possible about the dangerous materials that he was responsible for and worked with day in and day out?
Are you really that dense or do you have to work at it? Because based on what you've said so far you are getting really close to osmium levels (I know that's probably a hard word for you, go look it up).
I have to know what will happen with the steel if i use thermate or nano-thermite. And i also want to know how i have to place explosive charges in a building, and also want to know how much decibels it will produce, when it will explode
Marokkan, when (if?) you finally grow up you will realize just how foolish you are making yourself look right now. You are down to comparing small arms to explosives and incendiaries. You are actually showing everyone just how shallow your depth of knowledge really is on this matter.
I get it, you have nothing of substance to counter one word of what I've said and that frustrates you because deep down you know it but can't admit it for whatever sad reasons you might have. I'll just leave you with this little pearl of wisdom from Americas 16th president:
"It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.".
Yes show me the expertise about the pyrotechnic materials and the explosives. A Torpedoman's Mate is not the evidence... I could also show my drivers license, but it has nothing to do with it.
You've also got a veteran military fire fighter with experience in making and using thermite and similar pyrotechnics and a lot of experience watching combat engineers blowing stuff up telling you you have no bleeding clue what you are talking about.
Your credentials to address demolitions or fire damage?
600 feet is two football fields end-to-end . I can't believe that the 4-ton chunk was thrown that far. And I also find it hard to believe that it was carried out there by a falling wall. Could it have been planted there ? It would be very easy to do what with trucks and grappling equipment all over the place.
No, but you do learn something about explosions and can tell the difference between explosively-ejected smoke and dust squished ouit from under a falling object.
I,ve fired more guns than many infantryment have, and I have worked a lot of construction sites
Marokkan, when (if?) you finally grow up you will realize just how foolish you are making yourself look right now. You are down to comparing small arms to explosives and incendiaries. You are actually showing everyone just how shallow your depth of knowledge really is on this matter.
I get it, you have nothing of substance to counter one word of what I've said and that frustrates you because deep down you know it but can't admit it for whatever sad reasons you might have. I'll just leave you with this little pearl of wisdom from Americas 16th president:
"It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.".
600 feet is two football fields end-to-end . I can't believe that the 4-ton chunk was thrown that far. And I also find it hard to believe that it was carried out there by a falling wall. Could it have been planted there ? It would be very easy to do what with trucks and grappling equipment all over the place.
Actually it's 120 feet short of that (people always forget about the end zones). It was there long before any trucks or anything else could even get close to the WFC Bill so it wasn't possible. Keep grasping at those straws though.
600 feet is two football fields end-to-end . I can't believe that the 4-ton chunk was thrown that far. And I also find it hard to believe that it was carried out there by a falling wall. Could it have been planted there ? It would be very easy to do what with trucks and grappling equipment all over the place.
You make the mistake of assuming that the perimeter columns all fell away in separate units. Some of them clearly fell as three or four sections still connect vertically. They fell away under some impetus from the expanding volumn of dust. The dust cloud did not evcen have to exert a lot of pressure to move a segment of columns from four hundred feet in the air six hundred feet away.
You make the mistake of assuming that the perimeter columns all fell away in separate units. Some of them clearly fell as three or four sections still connect vertically. They fell away under some impetus from the expanding volumn of dust. The dust cloud did not evcen have to exert a lot of pressure to move a segment of columns from four hundred feet in the air six hundred feet away.
Does this look like explosions? Let's answer that chronologically:
1) Near-Complete ignoramus that I was on 9/11/01, when I saw these collapses live it never occurred to me that I was watching an explosive demolition. I even heard Dan Rather compare it to a CD but it didn't occur to me it WAS a CD. I just thought, OMG, plane crashes, horrible fire, collapse, thousands of deaths, horror.
2.) A few years later: angry at Bush for starting the Iraq War. Friends say it was CD. I'm skeptical but I go to a presentation. Unimpressed.
3.) Two years later: friend keeps pushing me to look again. I watch Richard Gage's Blueprint for Truth. He tells me what to look for (his ten reasons why WTC has features of CD, see my videos part two) and OMG, I see what he is telling me to look for. Friends keep repeating mantras: no steel buildings ever collapsed due to fire, thermites in dust proven beyond a doubt, squibs, lateral ejections 600 feet away. Still skeptical but wondering, could Gage be right?
4.) 2009. Friend blows up at me and demands I really look at this theory. So I do. First impression (fire, collapse, horror) proves correct. 22 videos by me explain to the world why.
Simple observation now tells me that I DON'T see explosive flashes of light, or hear massive explosive sounds in orderly patterns. I do see horizontal expulsion of dust but am not surprised that 1/2 million cubic feet of air being forced out of the building per floor at up to 12 floors per second would create this.
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