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Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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FreemanMenard said:
JB comes to you and demands you sign a contract with him, and then be obliged to follow his rules or the terms of the contract. He demands you sell him your car for $1. You refuse to consent to it. So he then says "Fine, I do not consent to contract law!" (but of course he calls contract law 'freeman philosophy', cause he is that stupid.) So you end up in court, where the judge decides if you have to sell him your car for $1. You state that there is no contract, as you did not consent. JB says no contract is needed, cause he does not consent to contact law.

Will the judge order you to sell him your car, or is there no obligation, due to you not consenting to the terms of the contract, and him not consenting to contract law?
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This is one of the better debunkings of FOTL fee schedule acceptance ******** that I've ever read. Well done! Can it be that there's hope for you yet?

Probably not. Not while there's a plentiful supply of desperate and gullible people that can be separated from their money by narcissistic, sociopathic conmen.
 
Go to any restaurant, look at their fee schedule, or menu, order from it, receive your order, and then try claiming that the Fee Schedule or menu, (because that’s all a menu is, a restaurants Fee Schedule,) has no basis in law. Watch yourself get charged with fraud. If a Fee Schedule has no basis in law, you will get your food for free and not face charges. If it does have a basis in law, and is enforceable, you will be charged. Now go test it. Tell us how it works out for you. It’s simple contract law, of which you are clearly ignorant.

Incidentally, do you agree with JB, that he can enforce the terms of a contract without a contract by refusing to consent to contract law, or is he full of ******
 
I hope Lance was happy with his $800 worth. I guess we'll find out after the trial whether it was good value for money.
 
FreemanMenard said:
Go to any restaurant, look at their fee schedule, or menu, order from it, receive your order, and then try claiming that the Fee Schedule or menu, (because that’s all a menu is, a restaurants Fee Schedule,) has no basis in law. Watch yourself get charged with fraud. If a Fee Schedule has no basis in law, you will get your food for free and not face charges. If it does have a basis in law, and is enforceable, you will be charged. Now go test it. Tell us how it works out for you. It’s simple contract law, of which you are clearly ignorant.

Incidentally, do you agree with JB, that he can enforce the terms of a contract without a contract by refusing to consent to contract law, or is he full of ******
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Have any of your victims managed to collect on their fee schedules when they get into legal trouble? (Which they invariably do whenever they fall for your con).

Thought not.

Did you collect on your fee schedule when West Jet didn't accept your ******** FOTL ID?

Thought not.

Come back when you have something besides non sequiturs and idiotic pseudo-legal crap.

Perhaps this will be your first success:
ok everyone allans court today went great they offered him bail but he turned them down explained to them that he had a motion in edmonton to quash and the crown said good we will finally be rid of you. allan laughed and said ya but not without full payment of 12 million and the crown shut right up realizing they actually do owe him due to his fee schedule he had put in place in his first court appearance. his next appearance in edmonton is on sept 2 and he will be cleaning up nicely as they set him free and he then goes into claiming motion on all his bills make sure you all show up we need people at this court case to show them we all know what just happened!!!!!!!

http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?p=84455#p84455
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Somehow, I doubt it.
 
FreemanMenard said:
Go to any restaurant, look at their fee schedule, or menu, order from it, receive your order, and then try claiming that the Fee Schedule or menu, (because that’s all a menu is, a restaurants Fee Schedule,) has no basis in law. Watch yourself get charged with fraud. If a Fee Schedule has no basis in law, you will get your food for free and not face charges. If it does have a basis in law, and is enforceable, you will be charged. Now go test it. Tell us how it works out for you. It’s simple contract law, of which you are clearly ignorant.
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So, if a murderer fears that he may be charged with murder and submits a fee schedule for a few million quid if he should indeed be charged with murder, his fee schedule stands?
Perhaps he could add a fee of one trillion pounds if convicted?
 
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FreemanMenard said:
Go to any restaurant, look at their fee schedule, or menu, order from it, receive your order... blah blah blah
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You have a lot to say, most of it incredibly whiney, for someone who doesn't care what people here think.
 
Stacey Grove said:
So, if a murderer fears that he may be charged with murder and submits a fee schedule for a few million quid if he should indeed be charged with murder, his fee schedule stands?
Perhaps he could add a fee of one trillion pounds if convicted?
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And you call yourself a critical thinker, and have to resort to ludicrous example to try and defeat the argument. Where did I mention murder?

According to your logic, since a murderer can't rely upon a fee schedule to evade justice, a restaurant can't use one to ensure it.

Go to a restaurant, order from their fee schedule, (or menu) and then when a bill is presented, use your murderers argument to successfully claim that the restaurant can't use one either.

Gawd the level of ignorance here is absolutely astounding! To have to speak of murderers when the situation was about service and performance under contract as per the law in a restaurant is simply the stupidest thing I have seen here yet!

Since you cannot distinguish between someone placing an order at a restaurant, and murder, clearly YOU need someone to govern you.

Critical Thinker my ass. You are a Critical Non-Thinker.

Go ahead, go get some food at a restaurant and claim their fee schedule has no basis in law, cause a murderer would not be able to use one. See how that works for you.

:rolleyes:

Do you even read your posts and think about them before posting?

Fulfilling your order in a restaurant = murder.

WOW...

Just cause there are situations where a Fee Schedule can not be used, does not mean there are no situations where it can be used, but I guess that logic will escape most of the people here. Like it did you.
 
Paul said:
You have a lot to say, most of it incredibly whiney, for someone who doesn't care what people here think.
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Where as you have nothing to say, and had to change my words to suit your agenda. Par for the course on this forum though isn't it? Did you wish to claim that a restaurant can not and does not use Fee Schedules (menus) and that you can disregard them?

Thought not. All you folks ever do is insult when logic is employed against your ludicrous arguments.
 
We're waiting for you to show that a fee schedule can be used FOTL-style. You know, like how you've told all your victims it can be used when you took their money.

Whenever you're ready.
 
So you need to be shown and can't use your own brain or employ logic. Standard here isn't it?
And if I showed you an affidavit from someone who had done so you would not accept it.

FMOTL-style Fee Schedule is the same as that used by restaurants.

Do you need evidence that restaurant fee schedules are enforceable?
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Show some evidence that your victims have succesfully collected on their fee schedules.

Dodging merely re-inforces the obvious conclusion: you are a fraud and a conman.
 
Stacey Grove said:
He even got laughed off the Icke forum.
How low can you get?
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Menard's destruction of Lance Thatcher's life while pocketing his cash was an eye-opener even for Icke denizens.

Some scams truly are unbelievable.

ETA: Just in case there are lurkers who don't know this story yet:
Thatcher had his first run-in with the law in Kamloops in 2007, which cost him four days in jail, she said. After that, he had a conversation with well-known freeman Robert Menard, who sold him an $800 document that indicated how he could fight the law more effectively.
From then on, his conflicts intensified as he opposed every authority figure from the RCMP to Merritt bylaws officers and municipal tax officials.

http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/...t-fuelled-freeman-8217-s-beliefs-says-ex-wife
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D'rok said:
Menard's destruction of Lance Thatcher's life while pocketing his cash was an eye-opener even for Icke denizens.

Some scams truly are unbelievable.
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It's always the same with these so called gurus.
They're coin operated.
 
D'rok said:
Show some evidence that your victims have succesfully collected on their fee schedules.

Dodging merely re-inforces the obvious conclusion: you are a fraud and a conman.
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Can't, for I have no victims.
But there are plenty of people, who are not 'my victims' who have used them successfully.

Of course you will not believe it even if they told you to your face, would you?

http://www.youtube.com/user/syndrah#p/u

Contact him and ask him about getting paid.

Wait, too much work for you, and that would mean you have to change your beliefs, and start thinking, and that is something you can't possibly do, right?
 
D'rok said:
Menard's destruction of Lance Thatcher's life while pocketing his cash was an eye-opener even for Icke denizens.

Some scams truly are unbelievable.

ETA: Just in case there are lurkers who don't know this story yet:
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I spoke with him a couple of years ago for a few hours, and now I am responsible for WHAT HE DOES WITH HIS life?

LOVE YOUR 'LOGIC'! DOES THIS LOGIC APPLY TO YOU TOO?

:rolleyes:
 
FreemanMenard said:
I spoke with him a couple of years ago for a few hours, and now I am responsible for WHAT HE DOES WITH HIS life?
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No. You are responsible for the results of the crappy pseudo-legal advice you sold him. He bought your scam, followed it, and suffered. Funny how you want to disavow him now, isn't it?

LOVE YOUR 'LOGIC'! DOES THIS LOGIC APPLY TO YOU TOO?

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Yes it does. Fortunately, I do not sell false legal advice to seriously ill people who have just emerged from comas and have lost the capacity for good judgment.

In fact, I don't sell false legal advice to anyone at all.

Unlike you.
 
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