Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

[mrkinnies]

Denial at its finest.



I know exactly what NIST wrote. They wrote that WTC 7 didn't fall down as a single unit, as you have already demonstrated.

And this is meant to be a debate is it - acting like a little child?

 

[uke2se]

And this is meant to be a debate is it - acting like a little child?

It's not a debate. You need arguments for it to be a debate. Simple denial doesn't cut it, I'm afraid.

 

[DC]

And this is meant to be a debate is it - acting like a little child?

 

[Travis]

yeah i once had to desing something for the US market. amazing what lengts i had to go to prevent idiots hurting themself.

I resent that. We can find ways to hurt ourselves with anything.

 

[DC]

I resent that. We can find ways to hurt ourselves with anything.

ok ok, minimize the possible dangers.

i actually had to change the design of the V-belt cover so one could not reach the v-belts when sticking in a screwdriver. My first reaction to my boss was, but when you do that you deserve to get hurt

 

[Oystein]

Perhaps you'd care to video it for me - I don't have enough coke cans.

Regardless of the fact that such an experiment is hardly a valid attempt at modelling a 47 storey steel structure, I would say that that paving slab does not stay in the horizontal plane as it falls; one side or corner will fall first. That didn't happen at WTC7.

Also, who was tapping on top of WTC7 - the man in the moon?!

You could do the same experiment without tapping: Burn some paper around the cans instead.

 

[triforcharity]

And i will ask you again, why are you debating about this subject while you dont have the expertise?

Actually, IIRC, Oystein is in fact, an engineer. (Oys, please correct me if I am wrong)

What's YOUR expertiese Marokkan?

 

[Oystein]

Actually, IIRC, Oystein is in fact, an engineer. (Oys, please correct me if I am wrong)

What's YOUR expertiese Marokkan?

You're wrong, sorry
IT consultant/project manager

 

[twinstead]

What's YOUR expertiese Marokkan?

A pertinent question. You'd better hope you actually have relevant expertise, Marokkaan, if you are going to question anybody else's.

 

[Edx]

You're wrong, sorry
IT consultant/project manager

Still an engineer according to AE911

 

[000063]

So, when are you going to answer my question?

I'm having to assume you can't otherwise you'd have done so by now. Perhaps you could get together with Edx as I've just asked him the same thing above.

I just did...?

Columns and floors and trusses were holding up WTC 7, except, of course, for the parts which fell down. You cannot have a building which is being held up and falling down at the same time, if that's what's confusing you.

I know it's a hard concept to grasp, but just breathe into this paper bag until you feel better.

 

[triforcharity]

You're wrong, sorry
IT consultant/project manager

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. I stand corrected.

(see TMD/Maro, etc, that is how you admit when you're wrong)

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Exactly, the penthouse is seen to fall.

Further parts of the roof start to fall then, almost immediately,

the remainder of the building falls downward as a single unit.

When I mean remainder, I am referring to the vast bulk of the building of course (including the penthouse structure since it's still inside - so perhaps using the word remainder is wrong as it was the whole building which fell downward).

The Penthouse fell because the building had already collapsed beneath it (didn't you understand that from NIST?????, By the time the north face went, the penthouse was likely already part of the the debris pile or about to land on it.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Actually, IIRC, Oystein is in fact, an engineer. (Oys, please correct me if I am wrong)

What's YOUR expertiese Marokkan?

And if he isn't I most certainly am I have however no experience with steel framed buildings but but do however know the basics of the engineering involved. Unlike Gage who has none but pretends he does.

 

[000063]

BTW MrK, I had already answered your post when I made this one. You never answered. I'll highlight the relevant bits.

Actually, you saved me having to go look up that bit in my PDF, after you quoted it earlier.

I find it hypocritical how, for your purposes, the EP isn't part of the building, yet a stage of the collapse is the same as entire collapse. The latter is like saying 3 is an even number because it has 2 in it.

So, is there a difference between the last stage of a process and the entire process? Again, yes or no.

 

[chrismohr]

That's absolute rubbish. When you say college do you mean kindergarten?

The building fell as a single block. There is absolutely no evidence that the south side fell first. NONE

Hi again mrkinnies,

Go to around 6:20 in part 18 of my youtube gage rebuttals. You'll see a picture of a highly asymmetrical collapse of Building 7 into the weakened south face.

 

[mrkinnies]

Hi again mrkinnies,

Go to around 6:20 in part 18 of my youtube gage rebuttals. You'll see a picture of a highly asymmetrical collapse of Building 7 into the weakened south face.

Thanks Chris but this picture shows only that the building started to rotate towards the south after it had begun to fall. It had in fact fallen about half way at this time yet had rotated less than 5 degrees despite all the chaos of breaking steel and concrete going on below it. Rotation became noticeably more pronounced at the point this screen shot was taken but was little evident for the first half of the drop.

During the final collapse stage at the point where WTC7 began to fall as a single unit (as described by NIST), the building displayed no rotation and it is this movement, symmetrical and straight down, which is critical to the argument. If you ignore this then you display the same ignorance as you did of the free fall graph in your first attempt at video 18.

 

[beachnut]

Thanks Chris but this picture shows only that the building started to rotate towards the south after it had begun to fall. It had in fact fallen about half way at this time yet had rotated less than 5 degrees despite all the chaos of breaking steel and concrete going on below it. Rotation became noticeably more pronounced at the point this screen shot was taken but was little evident for the first half of the drop.

During the final collapse stage at the point where WTC7 began to fall as a single unit (as described by NIST), the building displayed no rotation and it is this movement, symmetrical and straight down, which is critical to the argument. If you ignore this then you display the same ignorance as you did of the free fall graph in your first attempt at video 18.

Where is your Pulitzer for exposing 911 as an inside job? When is the award? Is your failure to complete engineering school keeping your from breaking the biggest story in history? Or is it a matter of evidence? Do you think being an engineer is needed to understand 911, or it could help?

Chris is doing a good job, you have failed to make a valid point. You are trying to back in CD, you have no evidence, and no engineering to back your delusion.

 

[newton3376]

So how many floors did it have and why would I say 33?

Let me help you by expanding the quote a little.

"The shell of exterior columns buckled between the 7th and 14th floors, as loads were redistributed to these columns due to the downward movement of the building core and the floors. The entire building above the buckled-column region then moved downward as a single unit, completing the global collapse sequence."

What part of this are you having trouble understanding?

Just let us know what it is that you don't understand so we can help....you have come to the right place for answers.

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

So how many floors did it have and why would I say 33?

Let me help you by expanding the quote a little.

"The shell of exterior columns buckled between the 7th and 14th floors, as loads were redistributed to these columns due to the downward movement of the building core and the floors. The entire building above the buckled-column region then moved downward as a single unit, completing the global collapse sequence."

You are aware that WTC 7 was 47 stories tall, right?

Did you know that 47 - 14 = 33? That's a peer-reviewed result!