Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion / Lick observatory laser saga

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I go away for a sleep, wake up in the morning, check progress. Oh, look - nothing's changed.... except for more posts in the thread (and troll OP is still not suspended for being a smarmy pillock - how much of a dick do you have to be to get suspended around here??).

I think I'll change channels - this one's full of repeats... :p

It is becoming hard to keep track of it, what with the splits, merges, and casting into the oblivion of AAH.

Nonetheless, expect plenty more burden of proof shifting, evasion, and at this point the goalposts not only have wheels, they are making an attempt at the land speed record.
 
Can someone please explain what the OP means specifically by this statement?

Certainly. If one proposes any idiotic nonsequitur, but declare it to be a FACT NO LONGER IN DISPUTE, one wins the internet. In the OP's mind, anyway.

Although this may appear to be a facetious remark, I think it really is the answer to your question.
 
There were eight different positions listed for the goalposts in the "goalpost mission report" , each obtained by a different methodology, and later superceded by a more accurate position obtained by radar.
 
I hate it when messy threads get merged into one big messy thread and a buncha posts get moved to AAH so that replies make no sense.

Not that this thread was in danger of making much sense to begin with.
 
There were eight different positions listed for the goalposts in the "goalpost mission report" , each obtained by a different methodology, and later superceded by a more accurate position obtained by radar.

They were last seen disappearing into the distance across the salt flats of Utah at 800 mph.
 
Do you really think I wouldn't know the facts about salmonella? Before I answer your question about salmonella, what do you guys think Borman had? I don't think he had anything, not salmonella gastroenteritis, not a Secanol problem , not garden variety space sickness. I think it's fake poop. But assuming it is real poop, what do you think caused it?

The burden of proof is all yours, doc. You're the one crying fake, and you're the one who repeatedly suggested salmonella. I'm not making any claim. I'm just amused by your inability to justify yours. The ball remains firmly in your court.
 
I predict

He'll abandon this thread and start another thread with yet another inane and inept attempt at proving the 'Apollo hoax'.

I stand by to be corrected however, lol
 
Thanks for all the great thought provoking questions

Thanks for all of the great thought provoking questions everybody. I have got a fair amount of work to do, so cannot get back to you all right away. Anyway, should be soon enough however. I am making a list of each question and plan to provide a specific response to each of your inquiries. If one or the other seems not worth a formal response, I'll give you my reason(s) why I believe that to be the case.

In the meantime, I do encourage you to take a look at the coordinate issue. All kidding aside, I believe not a one of you has been able to show me wrong with respect to my contention that there was foreknowledge with respect to the Tranquility Base coordinates. If you do not address this problem from your side, you will find yourselves in deeper and deeper trouble in any attempt to save face for Apollo as we once knew her. I plan to present all the more evidence that foreknowledge was the case, just so you guys don't feel ambushed, I put that out there to let you know what to expect. You are in big trouble now and it will get worse, I guarantee it. You ain't seen nothing yet. Use your time to prepare for my return. I have already suggested to you Reed's writing, the Lick writings, the original seminal papers in SCIENCE dealing with professor Alley's(et. al) LRRR experiments, the Mission Report, the Apollo 11 Voice Transcript and other primary NASA documents that make reference to coordinate determination. These are my source materials, along with some others.

Nomuse objects at times to my use of popular books such as Michael Collins CARRYING THE FIRE. I say TOUGH, Collins wrote it, he knew what he was covering up, so I feel his bogus writing is a fair target for my criticism.

Sorry I ran X off. Maybe that was unfair of me to kick him when he was down, but this is on some level serious business and if you can't take a tactical taunt, you should walk away. I myself feel very bad at times about being called "DUMB" or what ever by your side. We employ tactics as we do for whatever reason. My jibes at X were tactical and he interpreted them personally. Fair enough, but if I can take pot shots, X should be able to as well.

My claim is coordinate foreknowledge not only implies but equates to Apollo 11 Mission fraud. I would like to be convinced otherwise by any means you all have at your disposal. The Borman poop issue, though relevant and fun to play with given its comical aspects, is secondary in my mind, though I promise to answer all question with respect to this point of debate as well.

Obviously, I have spent a great deal of time posting on this subject recently with you and would like to continue at that intensity of interaction and perhaps will fairly soon, but for now, I must get back to some other important duties. So until then, good luck investigating the coordinates. I should be back fairly soon with some big surprises so I hope you are all well prepared. It should not be long. Best, Dr. Pat.
 
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Thanks for all of the great thought provoking questions everybody. I have got a fair amount of work to do, so cannot get back to you all right away. Anyway, should be soon enough however. I am making a list of each question and plan to provide a specific response to each of your inquiries. If one or the other seems not worth a formal response, I'll give you my reason(s) why I believe that to be the case.

In the meantime, I do encourage you to take a look at the coordinate issue. All kidding aside, I believe not a one of you has been able to show me wrong with respect to my contention that there was foreknowledge with respect to the Tranquility Base coordinates. If you do not address this problem from your side, you will find yourselves in deeper and deeper trouble in any attempt to save face for Apollo as we once knew her. I plan to present all the more evidence that foreknowledge was the case, just so you guys don't feel ambushed, I put that out there to let you know what to expect. You are in big trouble now and it will get worse, I guarantee it. You ain't seen nothing yet. Use your time to prepare for my return. I have already suggested to you Reed's writing, the Lick writings, the original seminal papers in SCIENCE dealing with professor Alley's(et. al) LRRR experiments, the Mission Report, the voice transcript and other primary NASA documents that make reference to coordinate determination. These are my source materials, along with some others.

Nomuse objects at times to my use of popular books such as Michael Collins CARRYING THE FIRE. I say TOUGH, Collins wrote it, he knew what he was covering up, so I feel his bogus writing is a fair target for my criticism.

Sorry I ran X off. Maybe that was unfair of me to kick him when he was down, but this is on some level serious business and if you can't take a tactical taunt, you should walk away. I myself feel very bad at times about being called "DUMB" or what ever by your side. We employ tactics as we do for whatever reason. My jibes at X were tactical and he interpreted them personally. Fair enough, but if I can take pot shots, X should be able to as well.

My claim is coordinate foreknowledge not only implies but equates to Apollo 11 Mission fraud. I would like to be convinced otherwise by any means you all have at your disposal. The Borman poop issue, though relevant and fun to play with given its comical aspects is secondary in my mind, though I promise to answer all question with respect to this point of debate as well.

Obviously, I have spent a great deal of time posting on this subject recently with you and would like to continue at that intensity of interaction and perhaps will fairly soon, but for now, I must get back to some other important duties. So until then, good luck investigating the coordinates. I should be back fairly soon with some big surprises so I hope you are all well prepared. It should not be long. Best, Dr. Pat.

Still no answer of what time Lick got the coordinates I see...
 
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I predict

He'll abandon this thread and start another thread with yet another inane and inept attempt at proving the 'Apollo hoax'.

I stand by to be corrected however, lol

Corrected to say:

Declares victory and runs like hell
 
I predict

He'll abandon this thread and start another thread with yet another inane and inept attempt at proving the 'Apollo hoax'.

I stand by to be corrected however, lol

...using a completely transparent sock puppet to do it.
 
Glad the threads are merged

One last point. I am glad the threads are merged, and thank the moderator for doing this. It is obvious to all by now I started the second thread to press your side to engage me in debate on the coordinate issue which is by far and away my favorite subject for reasons I imagine are painfully clear to you all by now.

For my colleague Stella, I would point out it does seem to be the case that discussing the coordinate issue in the terms I proposed per my 2nd thread has been very effective in advancing my position, at least its consideration.
 
Yes Patrick1000 go and study the evidence again. Oddly your pronouncement above shows that you had not mastered the material or you would have had ready responses to our questions - it would seem you were making stuff up and not prepared.

I still think your whole premise was based on a failure to realize the difference in time zones - now isn't THAT embarrassing! LOL
 
Premature declarations of victory? Bathroom humor? Grandiose claims and delusions of competency presented in a swarmy, supercilious manner? He's like Interdimensional Warrior on a more effective medication. Only without the constant shouting about how the joos did it. (Did what? Everything!)

Nomuse, I have yet to see any concrete work on your part with regard to the coordinate issue and my 4 challenge questions. I suggest you get to work. I gave you some suggestions with regard to references, would be best you got to reading. It will be bad for your side regardless, but at least if you read up, you'll see what's coming and won't be in quite as much shock when I return. With a smile to you my friend, Patrick.
 
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Yes Patrick1000 go and study the evidence again. Oddly your pronouncement above shows that you had not mastered the material or you would have had ready responses to our questions - it would seem you were making stuff up and not prepared.

I still think your whole premise was based on a failure to realize the difference in time zones - now isn't THAT embarrassing! LOL

Prepare your evidence in support of that position Hans while you have time. when I return , it shall be too late to say anything more. Best to you, Patrick
 
I should be back fairly soon with some big surprises so I hope you are all well prepared.

So,you're going to run away without addressing outstanding posts?

Why am I not surprised?

Run away intellectual coward....
 
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Obviously, I have spent a great deal of time posting on this subject recently with you and would like to continue at that intensity of interaction and perhaps will fairly soon, but for now, I must get back to some other important duties. So until then, good luck investigating the coordinates. I should be back fairly soon with some big surprises so I hope you are all well prepared. It should not be long. Best, Dr. Pat.

Yeah, school starts for my kids tomorrow too.
 
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