Sure, if.
What percentage of people get a balanced diet?
I would say that most people get enough nutrients in the food they eat. Vegetarians, people on certain diets, people with certain malabsorption conditions -not so much. But the incidence of vitamin and mineral deficiency in modern society is pretty low. In any case, people that need supplements can take a generic multi and it will be just as effective as Double X.
But you said that there was something special about Double X that needed to be explained to people and that was the phytonutrients. First of all, these are available much cheaper in your local supermarket or Wal-Mart. Additionally, there is no evidence that taking them in supplement form will provide any nutritional benefit. So again, I ask, what is so special about Double X that requires an agent to explain?
Another question: Who is training these agents; i.e., what makes them expert enough to tell me the benefits of phytonutrients? It seems to me they are just regurgitating Amway's marketing fluff regardless of whether it's true or not. This is not far removed from lying.
At which point does it stop being food? When it's harvested? When it's dried? When the fibre is removed? Or just when they make it in to the shape of a tablet?
Is it the shape that stops it being food?
Yes. It's the shape.
Let's assume it's always food. Let's further assume that nothing essential was lost during the drying, processing and packaging process. For example, what good is 35mg of any food going to do? That's not even a good nibble! It certainly isn't enough to give any of the benefits that you would get from eating, say, a whole actual serving of kale. And, all combined, I'm not even getting a full gram of food from that pill. So the nutritional benefits of that food are going to be pretty close to nil, if not actually nil. So including them in the Double X formulation is nothing but a marketing ploy to make it look like it's including all these wonderful fruits and veggies that are beneficial while in actuality including absolutely nothing.
Are you an expert on skin renewal?
Is the agent who is selling it to me an expert? You said that Creme LuXury was so special that an agent had to explain the benefits. If that agent isn't a dermatologist (or has similar credentials) then why should I believe anything they say? Again, the agent is just regurgitating the standard marketing fluff from Amway. But you asked about me personally. I'm informed about skin care in general, but certainly not an expert. I do know, for instance, you can get tretinoin (Retin-A) from your doctor. Tretinoin has a documented mechanism for causing "skin renewal," and you can easily find the research with some quick Google-Fu. Cardiolipin, not so much. OTC retinol is similar to tretinoin (in that all retinoids are chemically related to Vitamin A), but much less effective and I'm sure that even it has more "skin renewal" benefits than cardiolipin.
You've provided not a singleI've ignored or dismissed every piece of evidence for any of your claims.
FTFY. You can't just ignore or dismiss basic math.
You want to make a semantic distinction between an Amway "business" and someone who just joins Amway to get a discount. Fair enough -IF you can provide some hard evidence that most people join only to get a discount. Your insistence that most people don't try to make money is not evidence. I have presented evidence that Amway 1)Pitches an IBO as a legitimate business opportunity, 2)Specifically prohibits pitching IBOs as a buyers club. Therefore, I think it's reasonable to conclude that most people who start an IBO have some expectation of making money. The fact that most people DO NOT make money is evidence that Amway is a poor business opportunity.
No you don't.
Not necessarily
I sponsor 10 people and their sales volume is added to mine to increase my bonus. See page A-2 of the Business Reference Guide. Therefore, it would be very difficult, but not impossible, for someone in my downline to make more than me.
Of course, all of this assumes that I have a downline and they have a downline. In reality, most IBOs don't have a downline nor do they sell any products so the point is really moot.
You just said you were "at the top". Now there's people "above" you?
In any case, in Amway there may be people "above" you that make more money than you, there may be people "above" you that make less than you
Unless I started the pyramid, there are people above me. Everyone in Amway is sponsored by someone except for the person(s) who started it. Those who sponsor more people generate more income; it's the way the model is set-up. Do you disagree?
Not even remotely close to reality.
The Amway Corporation and its private owners are at the top of the pyramid. They make the real profits.
Directly under Amway, there are the Founders Crown Ambassadors, the top IBO level. Only .01% of "active" IBOs qualified as Founders Diamond or above so we can make a reasonable guess that FCAs are a much smaller percentage of this number -a handful throughout the world at most.
Since everyone in Amway is sponsored by someone else, the sponsorship chain runs down from Amway to the FCAs to the guy who just signed up today. The FCAs make the multi-millions the guy who just signed up today makes zero.
So what do the people in-between the FCAs and the guy who signed up today make? Since only .5% of "active" IBOs qualify as Gold or above we can be sure that 99.5% of "active" IBOs make significantly less than $12,303/yr (by definition, inactive IBOs make $0). By simple math, which has been demonstrated earlier, we can make a reasonable guess that the average income for those 99.5% of "active" IBOs below gold must be very close to zero.
Now, if you can look at those numbers and find a real business opportunity there, then good luck to you. But I can predict with reasonable certainty, based on the evidence we have, that anyone who starts an Amway business today will make $0 in profit.
My reference is Amway's own material. Please tell me exactly how I'm wrong using these or your own references.
Not even remotely close to reality, as has already been pointed out, with independent references, multiple times on this thread.
You have given your opinion many times, but you have failed to back it up except with other opinion pieces and assertions that I'm wrong. We need real data. Find some and present it.