Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion / Lick observatory laser saga

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Patrick1000 said:
I really love your style Stella, seriously. You are so very fair. i need to think about what you wrote a bit and will comment. OK, give me a bit. Thanks again, great post. Pat
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Thanks. No rush, I probably won't be able to check in until later anyway.
 
R.A.F. said:
Trouble comprehending written material unless you constantly re-read it??

Sounds like a problem...
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You would benefit from reading the article RAF. It is a first person account of what happened at Lick Observatory on the night of 07/20/1969 by the very man who targeted the laser. Stella, if you were not aware of that fact, you should be as well.
 
Patrick1000 said:
You would benefit from reading the article RAF.
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You really don't understand...based on your posting history, there is no way I would follow any "advice" from you, so you can stop with the "you would benefit...", crap.

Anyway, why would you assume that I am unfamiliar with aspects of the Apollo missions. Just because you are ignorant concerning Apollo doesn't mean the rest of us are...
 
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frenat said:
It depends on the quality of the proxy server. Some of the free ones cut out a lot of formatting to save on bandwidth. I have seen some like that but there are still plenty out there that work correctly for everything.
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Well, it was a randomly chosen poxy server. I'd been banned from a UK 9/11 CT forum and wanted to go back with a sock to object in the strongest possible terms :)

As I recall it translated certain characters into single quotes, screwing things somewhat. Or translated single quotes into something else.
 
drewid said:
Oh and Pat/Dr Radar/Fattydash, do you have a citation for the exact coordinates that Lick received on the 7th? just wondering.
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Drewid, go to the University of California Observatories web site and find Remington Stone's first person account of what happened at Lick Observatory on the night of 07/20/1969. Best single article to start with. hope that helps. pat
 
This thread is kinda like those about how the earth cannot be rotating-remember that guy a few months ago, guys says very little to avoid being banned, ignores answers and pokes at everyone.......

Kinda like a soft spongy troll....

oh my and he started another tread to do it even more
 
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Stellafane said:
Hi Pat. I will respond to your questions, without literally answering them. For reasons I'm about to explain, I don't think one needs to answer these questions to satisfactorily address them, although you may well disagree.

In any case, when you ask:



The precise answers to these questions are really irrelevant, since they're just trivia. A more meaningful set of questions could be articulated as follows:

(1) Was it possible for someone to contact Lick and provide the coordinates?

(2) Was it possible to determine the coordinates?

The answer to both these questions is of course "yes," meaning that the fact that Lick's experiment was successful in no way calls into question the reality of Apollo. Think of it this way: You don't need to know the who, when, where, and how behind the invention of the jet engine to be comfortably certain airline travel is a reality.

So challenging people to answer your questions above doesn't really advance the discussion any. Failure to answer doesn't lend any credence to your theory that the moon landing was a hoax, any more than successfully answering them strengthens the case for Apollo. Whether or not Apollo was a fraud will be determined by far more relevant and meaningful factors, not mere trivia.
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My approach Stella does advance the discussion in the sense that as one investigates the events of the evening 07/20/1969, morning of 07/21/1969, one is forced to choose between various presentations of the "facts". As each different presentation cannot be true, the investigator ultimately has an opportunity to find out the truth in the matter as one alternative, the "true" one indeed will appear as the most reasonable.
 
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nomuse said:
Have you had the patience to track down when anyone at flight control -- particularly flight surgeon -- knew any details about Borman's illness? Would be interesting to see if this was within the window for "short" abort (scenario I or II, as opposed to lunar-distance apogee).
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From the Apollo Flight Journal transcripts Borman first vomited about 18 hours into the flight.

At 29:47:07 the PAO announced the details of the taped conversation and a few minutes later the tape is played by the PAO. The transcript is in the journal.
 
Patrick1000 said:
OK Matt, I promise I will check the other thread. do me a favor and give me the post number so I can locate it quickly. I honestly cannot remember you giving me an answer. thanks in advance for the number.
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You refuse to use the quote button to make it easier for others to follow the thread but you want Matt to give you a post # to make it easier for you.

(we need a two faced smiley)


ETA: I see you have started using the quote function so thanks.
 
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Patrick1000 said:
The Point Jack is not that it is stinky, but that they could get very sick were the diarrhea due to say salmonella, or even a virus. So no one tells them to wash their hands even which is the most important thing to do. this is just scratching the surface. Abort is not necessarily the right option, though I would have voted for that. But abort or not is very much NOT the issue at hand. The question is, do the astronauts behave in such a way as one would expect were Borman to have had diarrhea in the cabin? the answer is no. so we can comfortably assume the doctors did not do their job. now either they are incompetent, which is very unlikely given this is supposed to be a big important project , so they sure wouldn't hire crumy docs, or it may all be feigned. the latter is more likely in my mind.
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I'm pretty sure all the astronauts are adults, and don't have to be told by CAPCOM to wash their hands.
 
Patrick1000 said:
I know the Remington Stone article back and forth, i have read it over 100 times, literally. are you implying I am unfamiliar with it and/or do not view it as an important reference. i have referenced that article already in my previous posts(separate thread, same subject). I think you are off target here 16.5.
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Odd, most of us understood it on the first reading.
 
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