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Merged Freeman on the Land in America/lawful rebellion/sovereign citizens

No, that is not right
I think you may mean sah-nape
And I blame Lisa.
 
timhau said:
Is that 'you' as in 'your strawman' or 'your flesh-and-blood person'? And good luck collecting that fee.
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Cops aren't much on philosophy so they'll lock up your f&b body and let the straw fend for itself.
 
I searched the thread and couldn't see this article.

CORNWALL - A Cornwall man who has joined a growing social movement that doesn’t acknowledge government statutes or laws will not escape a warrant issued for his arrest, law enforcement officials said.
The 58-year-old man, who goes only by the name Thomas, was charged with the possession of illegal cigarettes after a search by the RCMP in September 2009.
But calling himself a “Freeman on the Land,” Thomas said he is not bound by legal obligations or restrictions that most people recognize, because he has not given consent to be governed.
Thomas does not acknowledge his last name, which he refers to as a “corporate” name assigned by the government. He does not recognize his birth certificate, which he considers a bank note that assigns a monetary value to citizens. He drives without insurance or a licence, saying he doesn’t recognize any legal obligation to do so.
And when allegedly caught smuggling cigarettes in 2009, Thomas said he wasn’t doing anything wrong.
“To me, it’s not hurting anyone, except that the government wants money from you,” he said.
In anticipation of his court date on Aug. 4, Thomas sent a letter to the judge informing them he would not be attending to answer to the charges against him.
“Section 15 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms states that all men are equal under the law there, no one man has authority over another man unless authority has knowingly, willingly and intentionally been granted,” the letter said. “I did not grant or consent to anyone having authority over me and did not contact with the court, giving them permission to continue.”
Thomas said he considers the Government of Canada to be “de facto,” which includes the courts.
“Section 15 of the Criminal Code of Canada states that no one is obligated to obey any law of any de facto government, therefor I, as a natural person, am not obligated to obey and or appear (in court) on August 4, 2011.”
Missing his court date, a bench warrant has been issued for his arrest.
Thomas is one of about 160 Freeman on the Land that are known to police in Ontario, according to Ontario Provincial Police Const. Pete Robertson.
As a relatively new social movement, Freemen on the Land are gaining momentum around the world, and publicize their defiance in YouTube videos and websites on the Internet.
“The movement is getting bigger and bigger all the time,” Thomas said. “...To give us back our freedom because we are all slaves.”
But despite the laws and statutes the Freemen cite to build their case, Robertson said all people are considered equal under the law.
“These people are looking at a philosophy and lifestyle that disassociates them,” he said. “When we come across a person like that we are going to deal with them with the laws that are mandated. We will treat them like everyone else.”
Robertson said police have been monitoring the movement, and said Freemen on the Land have been identified in cities across Ontario, including Guelph, Owen Sound, Toronto, Ottawa, London and the Niagara region.
Because they don’t believe laws apply to them, Robertson said there have been instances of Freemen on the Land possessing firearms, explosives and illegal substances.
Bev Roy, manager of the provincial offences court in Cornwall, gave a presentation to United Counties of Stormont, Dundas and Glengarry councillors about the movement in June.
Roy said they are working to educate court staff about Freeman on the Land, and are working with court security to develop an in-house protocol about acceptable behaviour during court proceedings.
Roy said she wants her staff to understand what the Freeman on the Land are trying to achieve.
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http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/08/14/freeman-insists-laws-dont-apply

Bev, wherever you are you are a incredibly patient human being.
 
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And there's some classic FoTLer logic on that thread:


Does he or the movement acknowledge Money, the welfare cheque that they're probably getting or our free healthcare?
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Canada no longer has a Rule of Law. Our laws have been twisted and interpreted to suit the crime and the perpetrator. Individuals are able to pick and choose the laws they wish to obey. As for those social services, well, those are entitlements. One is always entitled to one's entitlements.
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Yep, the laws are purely optional, but oh, welfare? THAT we're ENTITLED to!
 
Freeman on the land logic at its best,
A guy turns on Ickes saying how he failed in court and a freeman asks him to post proof of his failure, its strange that FOTLers never ask people for proof when someone claims it works? :rolleyes:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=179880

hmm you never ever posted here and have but 1 post...
you cracked under the first little presure
and your buddy iq145(ya right) is telling you this is all snake oil
how about some docs that the bailif left with you...you have nothing to lose now so post them up...sanatize them first as you are clearly afraid
i don't believe a word you typed and believe your only purpose is to cry wolf
who exactly did you talk to about fmotl and what sites did you post on?
you can take this as a learning exp or go back to sleep
do you want to lay down and die or educate yourself and move on?
i still think its bs please prove me wrong
if you had a understanding of fmotl you would have been on here getting help
long before the big bad bailif came by
so post it and let this forum know were and what you were told or go cry in your beer with the rest
sounds harsh eh...you should have taken the other pill
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This just made me spit coffee down my nose
escapee Hi y'all, Firstly, Thanks for all your support of Norman. Secondly, apologies for this late reply - have been ill (bronchitis). As expected we had a great turn out on the day (supporters from far and wide) came along to voice their protest against this treasonous and tryannical actions against one of our brothers. Unfortunately, I had to get back to my shop at 11:15am. However, those who could stay continued the protest and later moved to Leeds city centre (War Memorial) to bring the news to the people of Leeds. My raw footage and pics of the Leeds Prison protest (2011-08-13) can be found at: http://www.rceuk.co.uk/2011-08-13-norman-scarth/IMAG0001.AVI
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Down with the government and all its treasonous actions, but I dont want to miss out on any passing trade while I'm here:D

Its taken from the homepage of Ray St Clairs Freedomrebels site, not sure if the link will work, you may have to be a member.
http://www.freedomrebels.co.uk/
 
My raw footage and pics of the Leeds Prison protest
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A 19 second clip of the massed ranks of the freedomrebels, all 18 of them, not actually doing anything.
 
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