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Why not war against Islam?

Bill Thompson said:
Hillary Clinton did not believe that she dodged bullets in Bosnia. But it was something she thought she needed to say to show military valor and international wisdom to get elected.

In a similar way Michelle Backmann might be saying this crazy creationism stuff because she figures her base wants to here something like it. She doesn't come out and say evolution is a lie. Did you notice that?
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So you think it's alright if she's just pandering to her supporters?
It occurs to me that giving them what they want (at the moment, creationism in science class) would be an even better way of gaining their support than merely talking about it.

But one thing is sure. Even if she is elected, there is no way she will have the power to make public schools teach stupid stuff.

She will also not have the power to make abortions illegal.
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Surely that depends on who is elected with her and how much support those policies have in America generally.
 
Antpogo, is your support of Islam politically motivated? It is a simple yes or no question. I already know the answer. It is obvious. I am asking to see if she will be honest, avoid the question, or flat out lie.
 
Bill Thompson said:
Antpogo, is your support of Islam politically motivated? It is a simple yes or no question. I already know the answer. It is obvious. I am asking to see if she will be honest, avoid the question, or flat out lie.
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LOOOOL bill your paranoia is showing again
 
FireGarden said:
So you think it's alright if she's just pandering to her supporters?
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Nope.

Who, by the way, Hillary or Backmann? Does it matter?

It seems to matter if you are a Liberal. To Liberal it is all a game and we support Hillary because she is a leader of the faith, oops, I mean party.
 
DC said:
LOOOOL bill your paranoia is showing again
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paranoia of what?

Your non sequitur is showing again.

Once again we are jouringing down a path where you have said something off-the-cuff that you cannot really defend or support or logically explain.

Antpogo insists that christianity is a bigger threat than Islam. But she cannot really explain it. Instead she ends up discussing politics. But the truth is, a president or elected official cannot overturn the laws that she is in fear of having change. She is the one who is paranoid. Are you confusing me with her?



Paranoia, was?



Ihr nicht sequitur wieder zeigen.

Wieder einmal sind wir jouringing auf einen Weg, wo Sie etwas gesagt haben, off-the-Manschette, die kann man nicht wirklich zu verteidigen oder zu unterstützen oder logisch zu erklären.

Antpogo besteht darauf, dass das Christentum eine größere Bedrohung als der Islam. Aber sie kann nicht wirklich erklären. Stattdessen landet sie über Politik zu diskutieren. Aber die Wahrheit ist, einen Präsidenten oder gewählten Beamten können nicht kippen die Gesetze, die sie in Angst, zu ändern. Sie ist derjenige, der paranoid ist. Sind Sie verwirren mich mit ihr?
 
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Bill Thompson said:
paranoia of what?

Your non sequitur is showing again.
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Bill, are you paranoid? It is a simple yes or no question. I already know the answer. It is obvious. I am asking to see if you will be honest, avoid the question, or flat out lie.
 
DC said:
Bill, are you paranoid? It is a simple yes or no question. I already know the answer. It is obvious. I am asking to see if you will be honest, avoid the question, or flat out lie.
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Paranoid of what? It is not a simple question because it is incomplete!!
Paranoid von was? Es ist keine einfache Frage, weil sie unvollständig ist!

 
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Everyone is afraid of something. I guess you can call that paranoia. So of course you can call me paranoid, I guess. But tell me what do you think I am parnoid of. I wasn't avoiding the quesiton.
 
Bill Thompson said:
What question? You did not even ask a complete question.

"Bill, are you afraid?"

"Well, sure, but of what?"

"I see, you did not answer the question."
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still avoiding the question poor bill :(

Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion. Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs concerning a perceived threat towards oneself. Historically, this characterization was used to describe any delusional state.
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At the beginning of Naziism, people in the USA who were against it were called paranoid. If being against Naziism are paranoid, then sure, you can call me paranoid.

That is what you are doing now to me about Islam. If someone is against it, they are paranoid.

Ad Hominim attack. Google it.

How is my fear irrational? You cannot answer that question. Because it isn't.

You want to label someone paranoid so you can dismiss them. Considering that they are right or have a point is too much of a challenge to you.

When the Nazi movement was starting, people thought it was harmless. People who spoke out against it were considered paranoid. It turned out the people calling the other people paranoid were stupid.
 
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Bill Thompson said:
Antpogo, is your support of Islam politically motivated? It is a simple yes or no question. I already know the answer. It is obvious. I am asking to see if she will be honest, avoid the question, or flat out lie.
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I don't "support" Islam. And what do you mean by "politically motivated"? If you mean are my posts here motivated by any political position I hold or have held, then no.

I'm motivated purely by personal reasons: mostly a general thirst for knowledge combined with a desire to correct and educate people who are utterly ignorant about the topic, and a little bit because of certain members of my family who are practicing and devout Muslims.

Bill Thompson said:
It seems to matter if you are a Liberal. To Liberal it is all a game and we support Hillary because she is a leader of the faith, oops, I mean party.
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The 2008 campaign for the Democratic nomination called, Bill. It's laughing at you.
 
Bill Thompson said:
At the beginning of Naziism, people in the USA who were against it were called paranoid. If being against Naziism are paranoid, then sure, you can call me paranoid.

That is what you are doing now to me about Islam. If someone is against it, they are paranoid.

Ad Hominim attack. Google it.

How is my fear irrational? You cannot answer that question. Because it isn't.

You want to label someone paranoid so you can dismiss them. Considering that they are right or have a point is too much of a challenge to you.

When the Nazi movement was starting, people thought it was harmless. People who spoke out against it were considered paranoid. It turned out the people calling the other people paranoid were stupid.
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so you agree that that it is not the duty of every muslim to conquer the world in a violent jihad like your video claimed?
 
ANTPogo said:
I don't "support" Islam. And what do you mean by "politically motivated"? .
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But then why do you even participate in this discussion thread?

You seem to first demand that it is just as bad as other religions. That really does not mean anything. I think you know that. So what if it is just as bad as other religions. Some of them, like Scientology, are at war.

You then demand that Christianity is a bigger fear. I still don't see how.

Now you seem to be saying you are neitther for or against Islam. I do not know if you are for or against going to war with Islam.

You seem to have a desire to take this tread and steer it into another direction. Am I right?
 
ANTPogo said:
I don't "support" Islam. And what do you mean by "politically motivated"? If you mean are my posts here motivated by any political position I hold or have held, then no.

I'm motivated purely by personal reasons: mostly a general thirst for knowledge combined with a desire to correct and educate people who are utterly ignorant about the topic, and a little bit because of certain members of my family who are practicing and devout Muslims.
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I do not think you are telling the truth. Here is why I think this. You first demand that Islam is just as bad as other religions. THen, after establishing this point, you quickly move on to saying that christianity is a bigger threat. When I pressed you to explain why that is, your reasoning was P O L I T I C A L.

Christianity was a threat because of so-and-so might be elected into power and this so-and-so is a right wing religious nut job who is going to change laws. My idea of a "threat", is being killed on my way to work or sitting at my office or doing a computer programming contract overseas -- maybe in the MidEast. My idea of a threat is not some policitician with one religion or another being elected into power.

The "christian threat" to you is the changing of abortion laws or having creationism being taught in schools. The reality is that this is unlikely to happen no matter who gets elected into power. The president cannot change the abortion laws and it is doubtful if creationism will ever be allowed to be taught in schools ever ever ever ever ever. So, Antpogo (if that is your real name, just kidding) THERE DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO BE A CHRISTIAN THREAT TO ME AT ALL. And so, looking at how you have steered this discussion, it seems to me you had set out to make a politcial point all along. This is why I think now you are not being truthful.
The 2008 campaign for the Democratic nomination called, Bill. It's laughing at you.
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This comment, whatever it means, tells me you are definately into politics more than I am. I would have to guess what you mean by it. I am sure it is obvious to you what you mean. I think that is because you ARE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
 
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Bill Thompson said:
I do not think you are telling the truth. Here is why I think this. You first demand that Islam is just as bad as other religions. THen, after establishing this point, you quickly move on to saying that christianity is a bigger threat. When I pressed you to explain why that it, your reasoning was P O L I T I C A L.

Christianity was a threat because of so-and-so might be elected into power and this so-and-so is a right wing religious nut job who is going to change laws. My idea of a "threat", is being killed on my way to work or sitting at my office or doing a computer programming contract overseas -- maybe in the MidEast. My idea of a threat is not some policitician with one religion or another being elected into power.

The "christian threat" to you is the changing of abortion laws or having creationism being taught in schools. The reality is that this is unlikely to happen no matter who gets elected into power. The president cannot change the abortion laws and it is doubtful if creationism will ever be allowed to be taught in schools ever ever ever ever ever. So, Antpogo (if that is your real name, just kidding) THERE DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO BE A CHRISTIAN THREAT TO ME AT ALL. And so, looking at how you have steered this discussion, it seems to me you had set out to make a politcial point all along. This is why I think now you are not being truthful.


This comment, whatever it means, tells me you are definately into politics more than I am. I would have to guess what you mean by it. I am sure it is obvious to you what you mean. I think that is because you ARE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED.
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do you think ANTPogo is a stealth Jihadist pushing to implement Sharia in the US?
 
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