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Reasonable doubt...All truthers(and whoever esle) please read

Edx said:
So what do you see in this video?



I dont know how you can keep going on about how there was molten steel because XYZ said so when we have just as much reason to think molten steel was at a dozen other fires I just gave you examples of where people also reported molten steel. Especially when XYZ don't even agree there was molten steel.
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I see a bunch of idiots who's lab privileges should be revoked! That is a small sample and we are seeing it before any cooling.

See this video...a clear difference between melted steel and aluminum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhbaiuK3M3U&feature=related
 
Edx said:
So what do you see in this video?



I dont know how you can keep going on about how there was molten steel because XYZ said so when we have just as much reason to think molten steel was at a dozen other fires I just gave you examples of where people also reported molten steel. Especially when XYZ don't even agree there was molten steel.
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I posted pictures to what appears to be Molten steel. Numerous accounts of it, by people with extremely high qualifications. Those who reported in your post had no where the qualifications of Leslie Robertson. Most of your post, was using Molten medal, molten copper...etc...you made it sound like everyone was molten steel.
 
waypastvne said:
I also don't see any steel beams in that photo. Those are without a doubt exterior aluminium cladding.

[qimg]http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/AJM8125/Fires-burned-and-molten-steel-flowed-in-the-pile-of-ruins-still-settling-beneath-my-feet-Sarah-Atlas-Task-Force-One-Urban-Search-and-Rescue-.jpg[/qimg]

A photo with sections of exterior aluminium cover panels for comparison.(ignore the red box)

[qimg]http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af74/waypastvne/1.jpg[/qimg]

Cross section of the aluminium column covers. There were thousands of them on the buildings.
[qimg]http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af74/waypastvne/WTC8.jpg[/qimg]
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It sure looks like steel beams to me. It sure looks like Melted steel. I agree some medals it hard to tell the difference. Take a look at this video...and tell me you can see the difference. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhbaiuK3M3U&feature=related
 
tmd2_1 said:
I posted pictures to what appears to be Molten steel. Numerous accounts of it, by people with extremely high qualifications. Those who reported in your post had no where the qualifications of Leslie Robertson. Most of your post, was using Molten medal, molten copper...etc...you made it sound like everyone was molten steel.
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Yet not one actual picture produced in 10 years. Care to guess why?
 
tmd2_1 said:
I posted pictures to what appears to be Molten steel. Numerous accounts of it, by people with extremely high qualifications. Those who reported in your post had no where the qualifications of Leslie Robertson. Most of your post, was using Molten medal, molten copper...etc...you made it sound like everyone was molten steel.
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seems you belief so much of what Mr. Robertson says, he is an expert. what does he say, CD or collapse?
 
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DC said:
seems you belief so much of what Mr. Robertson says, he is an expert. what does he say, CD or collapse?
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Care to explain why he would say there is molten steel and then lie about it? Does that seem suspicious to you?
 
beachnut said:
False, in high speed aircraft crashes many thing come out as if they were not in a crash. The low mass of a passport makes it a big candidate for survival in a high speed crash. When my car crashed and was totaled, all the paper survived and was not destroyed. When a U-2 crashed and burned, the checklist (paper booklets) survived. I have investigated aircraft crashes, many things survive expected from the impact and avoiding the fire.

You are taking things you don't understand and have no experienced or knowledge of, and making up delusional nonsense. Not trained as an aircraft investigator? You have no knowledge what is normal, and unless you start thinking for yourself and gain knowledge you will remain in one of the dumbest movements.
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I'm from Scotland and witnessed the aftermath of the Lockerbie PanAm 103 disaster. A guys body was found in a field, having fallen from about 30,000ft, beside him was a duty free carrier bag with an intact bottle of wine................
 
I don't suppose that it matters much, does it. It's been nearly 10 years, and all the truthers have managed to do is bicker on the internet. That's all. In 10 years. FAIL.
 
tmd2_1 said:
Care to explain why he would say there is molten steel and then lie about it? Does that seem suspicious to you?
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so you prever to ignore what he thinks about CD or Collapse.
 
Edx said:
hey man, was this a conspiracy as well?

Note of Doom Found in PSA Jet Wreckage : Message Apparently Written by Fired USAir Employee Supports FBI's Theory of Vengeance
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-12-11/news/mn-18992_1_fbi-agents
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yeah but that crash site looked very like Shanksville! It was obviously part of the planning for 911 inside jobbity!!!! Drool Drool.........:jaw-dropp
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tmd2_1 said:
there was a fireman who said hey you've got to see this, and picked up a concrete slab and there was "like, a little river of steel." I mean really. That's not a common metaphor for some type of liquid. He clearly was stating there was a little river of steel.
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So why do plenty of other fires have people reporting molten steel, melting steel girders and pools of molten metal? :rolleyes:

Was thermite used there as well?
 
tmd2_1 said:
I'm not sure what you are talking about you will have to link to something.
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Its quite simple really.

Here's the original picture before someone touched it up.

5575-firefighters+peering+into+hole.jpg


And here's the video of them working with the flood light they used.



But it was a stupid suggestion to start with, because they wouldn't have been able to get that close if it really was molten steel. Its the same deal with the other videos and pictures truthers use like this one , they claim the crane was picking up molten steel but if it really was molten steel the crane would have stopped working

Steven Jones claims he didn't touch up the picture obviously or else he would be admitting he was a liar, but even if the colour retouching really was just a coincidence, it would still be stupid to claim it suggested glowing molten steel.
 
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Edx said:
Its quite simple really.

Here's the original picture before someone touched it up.

[qimg]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sJQ1QA2xOAw/SK-g7-BnzFI/AAAAAAAAAcE/L1qVPceRQvQ/s400/5575-firefighters+peering+into+hole.jpg[/qimg]

And here's the video of them working with the flood light they used.



But it was a stupid suggestion to start with, because they wouldn't have been able to get that close if it really was molten steel. Its the same deal with the other videos and pictures truthers use like this one , they claim the crane was picking up molten steel but if it really was molten steel the crane would have stopped working

Steven Jones claims he didn't touch up the picture obviously or else he would be admitting he was a liar, but even if the colour retouching really was just a coincidence, it would still be stupid to claim it suggested glowing molten steel.
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why would the crane stop working? :confused:
 
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