The Oldest Religious Structures & Ancient Aliens?

[MG1962]

All he wants is your money, and guess what, he's proving you gullible enough to get it for him.
Did you know for instance that Giorgio A. Tsoukalos was the Director of Erich von Daniken's Center for Ancient Astronaut Research
heres wiki on Daniken in case you've forgotten:

I dont think this clown is short of a quid. If it wasn't for the cooking channel he would be on all 400 cable networks available in the US

 

[Mashuna]

The gift shop is just past the hallway with the rotating blades, to the left of the collapsing floor. Probably just as well you didn't find it though, 'cos if you choose the wrong grail all your flesh melts off.

Ah, I went right at the collapsing floor. That's where the restaurant is.

 

[edge]

I don't think it was as much a matter of it being hidden as it was of it simply not being looked for.

What I read was if and when found those that found it were killed, this was after abandonment of the city.

 

[edge]

Petra was visited by Victorian explorers and was known from writings from classical antiquity. No one keep it secret. In fact during the middle ages it was visited by tourists. The site seems to have been abandoned after the trade routes that were the reason for the city shifted. It appears that after the Romans took over the Nabeatean kingdom c. 106 C.E., whose capital was Petra, probably in order to get control over the spice trade from Yemen that was the source of Petra and the Naeatean kingdom's wealth, the trade shifted to others and that part of Arabia went into decline. Petra's water management system was badly damaged by an earthquake c. 363 C.E. (A.D.). And probably completely abandoned shortly afterwords.

I'm sure you're right about much of what you say.
But I did read somewhere what I posted above.

 

[edge]

If I may request clarification. Do you mean humans, at some point more than 5000 years ago, were more technologically advanced than 21st century Western civilization? Or are you referring to being more ethically advanced or spiritually advanced? Or something else?

I believe humans were more advanced back then than we give them credit for.
Where it came from is up for debate.
As far as spiritual maybe so too… since it wasn't made clear till Christ walked the earth.
People that were around back then, (in OT times), had only what we read in those ancient texts by what ever culture believed in about the gods and the after life.
They all knew something about it but it wasn’t clear to all cultures.

The influences back then is the same, as U.F.O. theorist have come up with as an explanation today in the respect that there are only 4 or 5 possible explanations for aliens or what they could be.
The one category they all could fall into from Egypt to Greece, to Rome and so forth is fallen angles and good angels. The reasons why they became myths, is because they aren’t the true God.
In Enoch it tells us that these ones were banished by God and hidden under mountains in darkness.
But not all of the fallen as was written were banished some were left in place but restricted from their previous conditions.
Even to this day, this could account for them not coming down again in the forms they could take, less influence than in the pre Noah days.

Their tech isn't more advanced than ours, but possibly in the earth energies that they knew about.
Don't know if they took it to the level that Tesla was theorizing about.
Which brings us into the 1900s.
Are we missing something basic? I think so and yes we probably are but Don't let the Oil companies know I am talking about this. LOL

 

[dafydd]

I believe humans were more advanced back then than we give them credit for.

Correct about something at last. They were smart which is why they didn't need aliens to do what they did. Thread over.

 

[Ladewig]

post deleted due to poor reading skills by me.

 

[Ladewig]

I believe humans were more advanced back then than we give them credit for.
Where it came from is up for debate.
As far as spiritual maybe so too…

[snipped spiritual stuff]

Their tech isn't more advanced than ours, but possibly in the earth energies that they knew about.
Don't know if they took it to the level that Tesla was theorizing about.
Which brings us into the 1900s.
Are we missing something basic? I think so and yes we probably are but Don't let the Oil companies know I am talking about this. LOL

I'm still a little confused by what you mean by more advanced than us. Can you clarify?

What Earth energies were they using and what devices were they powering with these Earth energies?

 

[Mudcat]

You know this debate was much more fun to have when I used to believe in Ancient Aliens... though life is much fun without them

 

[Akhenaten]

Ah, I went right at the collapsing floor. That's where the restaurant is.

 

[Akhenaten]

I don't think it was as much a matter of it being hidden as it was of it simply not being looked for.

What I read was if and when found those that found it were killed, this was after abandonment of the city.

I read the same story. Lucky for Algy and Ginger that Biggles solved the mystery in time to save the day, wasn't it?

 

[pakeha]

What I read was if and when found those that found it were killed, this was after abandonment of the city.

I'd like to learn more about this.
Could you post up a link for that information, please?

 

[Mudcat]

I'd like to learn more about this.
Could you post up a link for that information, please?

I think I read this in a classic literature story once, so I wouldn't expect much.

 

[Maddparrot]

Their tech isn't more advanced than ours, but possibly in the earth energies that they knew about.
Don't know if they took it to the level that Tesla was theorizing about.
Which brings us into the 1900s.

A little bit before the 1900s if we are talking about Tesla and his 'Wireless Electricity.'
I have heard a few things on that, such as a few 'free energy' devices.
Tesla Generator being the most famous of them.
I hope you do not mean lay lines as a source of energy.
Please explain further.

 

[edge]

I'd like to learn more about this.
Could you post up a link for that information, please?

I will see if I can find the same link, it may take time.

caniswalensis I allways wonder where the auto moderators are.
I try not to be a snitch, when they do their thing it brings their creditability to the 6 th grade level, which everyone can see.

I am using written history in here and what others also think.
Not to metion the books that the bible has missing from that history, and in Enochs case one has to wonder why.

It explanes a lot about the connection of the spiritual and man, there is a link back to our Earth.
These would be considered alien if the were able to manifest in the physical as was written.
rifght now I don't have time but later I will, have to work today.

 

[Ladewig]

I just took what you said to the (il)logical extreme.

Regards, Canis

I respectfully disagree. My third paragraph was to support the topic sentence of the second paragraph. Specifically, we cannot have a reasonable discussion about what did or did not happen in ancient Earth history if we all cannot agree on what is to be considered evidence. It is possible that every other JREFer is wrong and that there really was a Biblical flood. But if our definition of evidence is such that no amount of Edge's evidence will convince us, then no reasonable discussion can take place. There is a striking difference between Edge and me. I can clearly state what peer-reviewed scientific evidence will convince me that I was wrong. Edge cannot do that that. That doesn't mean that Edge is wrong, but that does mean that Edge is not open-minded enough to have a reasonable exchange about whether or not there was a flood.

We can have a (potentially) interesting discussion about how people come to believe things or how a belief can be a defining characteristic of one's life. But no good can come from trying to discuss whether or not the shape of the Earth changed in such a way as to make the oceans and lands level enough that seawater covered the entire surface of the world - after which the Andes, Himalayas and Rockies rose to their current heights in less than 11,000 years.

 

[Ladewig]

Originally Posted by edge View Post
I believe humans were more advanced back then than we give them credit for.
Where it came from is up for debate.
As far as spiritual maybe so too…

[snipped spiritual stuff]

Their tech isn't more advanced than ours, but possibly in the earth energies that they knew about.
Don't know if they took it to the level that Tesla was theorizing about.
Which brings us into the 1900s.
Are we missing something basic? I think so and yes we probably are but Don't let the Oil companies know I am talking about this. LOL

I'm still a little confused by what you mean by more advanced than us. Can you clarify?

What Earth energies were they using and what devices were they powering with these Earth energies?

 

[dafydd]

It explanes a lot about the connection of the spiritual and man, there is a link back to our Earth.
These would be considered alien if the were able to manifest in the physical as was written.
rifght now I don't have time but later I will, have to work today.

Please provide proof of the existence of the spiritual. On-topic.

 

[dafydd]

I'm still a little confused by what you mean by more advanced than us. Can you clarify?

What Earth energies were they using and what devices were they powering with these Earth energies?

You asked that earlier and edge ignored it. I would be intersested in the answer too. Who is not entering into the thread,me or edge?

 

[caniswalensis]

I respectfully disagree. My third paragraph was to support the topic sentence of the second paragraph.

I won't argue the point. You know best what you were saying.

Regards, Canis