Split Thread A full theory of 9/11

[sheeplesnshills]

My hypothesis says that the bulk of the steel was in the two cavities UNDER the lowest basement floor, one on each side of where the core used to stand. They blew away parts of the lowest basement floor to access the cavities which were built in at the time of construction at the behest of the insurers and owner They are almost certainly stiill there. Any excess would have been cut out with thermal lances.and the two appproximately 7.500 ton ingots concreted over. Nothing to see any more.

( A 7,500 ton ingot will fit nicely in a cylindrical cavity 15 meters deep with radius 4 meters.)

hundreds more more witnesses to keep quiet and how do you get the steel to flow that fast so that its out of the columns BEFORE they fail? I take it fluid dynamics was not part of your education

 

[bill smith]

Contrary to the official story,very little steel actually went to China. The reason that they started hauling it away so quickly in direct contavention of every decent human principle of respect for the dead and against all the advice of professionals was to provide a reason why there was so little steel in the first place. After all there were lots of completely missing core columns whose absence would be noticed. This way they could say that any percieved shortfall had already been removed and 'shipped to China', Dead obvious really.

See what the editor of 'Fire Engineering Magazine' Bill Manning had to say about it at the time. Fire Engineering Magazine is the most respected Fire Engineering publication in America and has been publishing for more than 100 years.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/020100fireengineering

 

[NoahFence]

My hypothesis says that the bulk of the steel was in the two cavities UNDER the lowest basement floor, one on each side of where the core used to stand. They blew away parts of the lowest basement floor to access the cavities which were built in at the time of construction at the behest of the insurers and owner They are almost certainly stiill there. Any excess would have been cut out with thermal lances.and the two appproximately 7.500 ton ingots concreted over. Nothing to see any more.

( A 7,500 ton ingot will fit nicely in a cylindrical cavity 15 meters deep with radius 4 meters.)

Under the lowest basement floor is what some engieers and city employees call a "subway". Apparently it's a system of trains that actually go under the ground.

 

[NoahFence]

in direct contavention of every decent human principle of respect for the dead

Just what in the hell do you know about respect for the dead?


Don't answer that. I already know.

 

[NoahFence]

Contrary to the official story,very little steel actually went to China. The reason that they started hauling it away so quickly in direct contavention of every decent human principle of respect for the dead and against all the advice of professionals was to provide a reason why there was so little steel in the first place. After all there were lots of completely missing core columns whose absence would be noticed. This way they could say that any percieved shortfall had already been removed and 'shipped to China', Dead obvious really.

See what the editor of 'Fire Engineering Magazine' Bill Manning had to say about it at the time. Fire Engineering Magazine is the most respected Fire Engineering publication in America and has been publishing for more than 100 years.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/020100fireengineering

Really? From 2002? Yea - he was calling for an investigation - and got one.

Fair Lawn, NJ, January 4, 2002-Bill Manning, Fire Engineering's editor in chief, is summoning members of the fire service to "A Call to Action." In his January 2002 Editor's Opinion, "$elling Out the Investigation" (below), he warns that unless there is a full-blown investigation by an independent panel established solely for that purpose,

When was the last time you provided a link to a source that DIDN'T debunk yourself? Why do truthers constantly debunk themselves? Do you not actually know how to read?

 

[Porkpie Hat]

Contrary to the official story,

You spelled "contrary to the deluded sheep of 911 truth" wrong billy.

 

[bill smith]

Wrong, as soon as two people know a secret it isn't a secret anymore and since there is no problem in dismantling even a 100 floor building why would they worry and add the expense for something that is likely 150 Plus years away and isn't an issue in any case

Contrary to popular opinion seçretrs can be kept by thousands of insiders...for decades. That's without the FBI imposing gag orders of which they applied over 200,000 in America between 2003 and 2006. The figures are unavailable for 2001-20002

 

[bill smith]

You spelled "contrary to the deluded sheep of 911 truth" wrong billy.

porcus ex grege diaboli ....just kidding

 

[DGM]

Contrary to popular opinion seçretrs can be kept by thousands of insiders...for decades. That's without the FBI imposing gag orders of which they applied over 200,000 in America between 2003 and 2006. The figures are unavailable for 2001-20002

How many were filed between 1993/96? or 1997/2000?

 

[uke2se]

Not at all. I have given a bare bones summary in those posts and reserve the right to fill in the gaps.

But "filling the gaps" with many of the twoofer memes would result in internal contradiction, thus rendering your entire story false from the onset - not that it isn't false as it stands.

 

[twinstead]

Contrary to popular opinion seçretrs can be kept by thousands of insiders...for decades. That's without the FBI imposing gag orders of which they applied over 200,000 in America between 2003 and 2006. The figures are unavailable for 2001-20002

Tell me a secret kept by thousands of insiders for decades that involved finding out the people in charge were getting away with mass murder.

So you think a gag order is going to keep every single person totally quiet--to this day--even upon realizing they could be helping to protect mass murderers? Seriously?

 

[beachnut]

Contrary to the official story,very little steel actually went to China. The reason that they started hauling it away so quickly in direct contavention of every decent human principle of respect for the dead and against all the advice of professionals was to provide a reason why there was so little steel in the first place. After all there were lots of completely missing core columns whose absence would be noticed. This way they could say that any percieved shortfall had already been removed and 'shipped to China', Dead obvious really.

See what the editor of 'Fire Engineering Magazine' Bill Manning had to say about it at the time. Fire Engineering Magazine is the most respected Fire Engineering publication in America and has been publishing for more than 100 years.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/020100fireengineering

This is cool. They did save steel from the WTC. NIST conducted test to see if the WTC tower was up to some standards. They found the WTC towers were very strong. You have no point, you should have gone to engineering school if you want to understand the towers, but you instead make up failed opinions in your kitchen with a broken scale.

You post a source which can't do structural engineering. Next time use structural engineering source for your structural engineering concerns. You failed this time, don't let this get in your way of posting more nonsense for your failed fantasy theory.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

Contrary to popular opinion seçretrs can be kept by thousands of insiders...for decades.

Source? what similar secret was kept for what is now 10 years. They couldn't even keep gigabytes of secrets quiet in the wikileaks scandal from just one person so don't pretend there would not be a hundred leaks about something as evil as you suggest. With so many knowing it would be very hard for the evil ones to know who had leaked.

 

[sheeplesnshills]

And still waiting for you to show how the molten steel could flow out of the columns faster than they collapsed? Come on, the math involved is not that hard.

 

[MRC_Hans]

And still waiting for you to show how the molten steel could flow out of the columns faster than they collapsed? Come on, the math involved is not that hard.

In Bill's world, the fireproofing paint on the beams can hold up the building for a while. .... That is what happens when you derive your physics from cartoons; you know then Tom the cat is on a ladder, and Jerry the mouse set fire to it: The ladder burns to charcoal in half a second, but stays up till he blows at it, then it turns to powder and Tom falls down.

Hans

 

[gumboot]

Well that was an anti-climax. Kind of like taking a super hot girl home, getting her knickers off, and realising she has a penis.

That's the worst theory of 9/11 I've ever seen articulated in my entire life. Even bat-guano crazy space-beam doctor put some vague effort into supporting her laughable narrative.

 

[MRC_Hans]

However, let's humor this tale, and ask:

Bill, imagine a vertical steel support beam, filled with thermite. Where do you ignite the thermite?

If you ignite it at the top, the molten steel can't run down through the beam.

If you ignite it in the bottom, what will support the weight above while the bottom part of the beam is melting and running away?

If you ignite it all, the whole thing will blow up.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

Well that was an anti-climax. Kind of like taking a super hot girl home, getting her knickers off, and realising she has a penis.

Really? What made you consider the story hot at any point? At best, I had expected it might be fun.

Hans

 

[Scott Sommers]

I have to admit, the whole idea is amazing. The tallest building in the world, secretly filled with thermite, waiting to be ignited to fulfill a secret government masterplan. A secret thermite factory quietly grinding out billions of tons of the stuff, secretly transporting it huge distances to the towers and secreting it deep within the building. A vast army of workers, a huge secret industrial complex and then the thousands working in the towers oblivious to the reality of their fate.

Wow Bill. Did you really just type this up? At best it's a hot transvestite story. It's really not any better than Dr. Dust and her magic blowjob machines. In fact, it looks like something typed up by a 17-year-old kid then posted on Let's Roll.

 

[dafydd]

I have to admit, the whole idea is amazing. The tallest building in the world, secretly filled with thermite, waiting to be ignited to fulfill a secret government masterplan. A secret thermite factory quietly grinding out billions of tons of the stuff, secretly transporting it huge distances to the towers and secreting it deep within the building. A vast army of workers, a huge secret industrial complex and then the thousands working in the towers oblivious to the reality of their fate.

Wow Bill. Did you really just type this up? At best it's a hot transvestite story. It's really not any better than Dr. Dust and her magic blowjob machines. In fact, it looks like something typed up by a 17-year-old kid then posted on Let's Roll.

I will say this one more time. Bill is a troll who will saying anything to get a reaction. Just don't respond,Bill is not interested in debate.