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tmd2_1 said:
As I said Boeing's suspicious comment that for national security reasons they can't comment on 175.
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No comment is evidence for ... what? And why? Any prejudice you like to entertain?

tmd2_1 said:
The fact that those planes were maxed out speed wise, but were still able to hit those buildings square, and level. Not pointed up or down. Hit in such a way that not even the slightest bit of the wing hit nothing but the building...ie if it didn't parts of the plane would have flown to the ground. Is it hard evidence? No, but a fair amount of circumstantial.
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Why do you repeat that nonsense as if no-one educated you on it before?
Flying at vmax is not difficult. The buildings were not hit with any kind of precision (2 of 3 actually nearly missed). They were huge - among the biggest of their kind in the world. It is kid's play to hit targets that hugel. About as difficult as hitting a house with a car at full speed: not difficult at all. Since you talk about buildings (plural), you mean Pentagon and twin towers, right? You are dead wrong then. AA11 was descending and banking mildly, UA175 was descending rather steeply and banking heavily (the terror pilot had struggled to cook of altitude in time and was in a pretty wild curve). Both had the nose down.
 
tmd2_1 said:
The Washington Post spreads lies? The New York Times spreads lies?
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The sources that you link to quote-mine these papers and keep from you the rest of the story. For example the part where Hanjour's flight instructor says outright that he has no doubt Hanjour was capable of hitting the Pentagon.
 
Oystein said:
The sources that you link to quote-mine these papers and keep from you the rest of the story. For example the part where Hanjour's flight instructor says outright that he has no doubt Hanjour was capable of hitting the Pentagon.
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Right from Newsday Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
 
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DGM said:
That's it? (I did see that before).

Were any other pictures "omitted"? How do we know the exact time of that picture?
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Photographer said it was one of the first one's he took about 5 minutes after the attack.

Also you can look at the whole collection...and see where it comes in sequence. Especially his photos we can assign a definite time too.
 
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tmd2_1 said:
Let me try to address all of your posts here...if I miss something I apologize.
This site talks extensively about 767 and how they could be used. The same one I gave earlier. I think it seals the deal...but you believe what you want. http://911review.org/brad.com/blog/Physics911=56.html
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The idea that AA and UA would operate tankers for regularly scheduled commercial flights is ridiculous on its face.
No tanker took off at Boston, Newark and Dulles.

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Also I was asked to provide proof of bad piloting skills of hani. Say what you will about that site...it has all mainstream articles as sources.
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No. It fails to tell you that Hanjour was considered good enough to crash a plane into a huge huge building.
 
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Photographer said it was one of the first one's he took about 5 minutes after the attack.

Also you can look at the whole collection...and see where it comes in sequence. Especially his photos we can assign a definite time too.
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How did he explain that this was the only picture omitted? How many "abouts" are there in an hour? Also looks like way too many people "hanging around" for 5 min. after the attack.
 
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tmd2_1 said:
Right from Newsday Even though Hanjour showed a federal pilot's license and a log book cataloging 600 hours of flying experience, chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
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And this selfsame chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declared that Hanjour was capable of piloting a jet into a huge huge building.
 
Oystein said:
The idea that AA and UA would operate tankers for regularly scheduled commercial flights is ridiculous on its face.
No tanker took off at Boston, Newark and Dulles.



No. It fails to tell you that Hanjour was considered good enough to crash a plane into a huge huge building.
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Believe what you want, I believe the evidence points to that..you are free to believe what you want.

Staff members characterized Mr. Hanjour as polite, meek and very quiet. But most of all, the former employee said, they considered him a very bad pilot. "I'm still to this day amazed that he could have flown into the Pentagon," the former employee said. "He could not fly at all." [New York Times] Believe what you want about Hani
 
I am outta here. Rarely have I seen someone defend so much utter stupidy with such stubbornness.

Good night.
 
DGM said:
How did he explain that this was the only picture omitted? How many "abouts" are there in an hour? Also looks like way too many people "hanging around for 5 min. after the attack.
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That's what the photographer said...also where is his girlfriend that he mentions in the news studio.
 
Oystein said:
And this selfsame chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declared that Hanjour was capable of piloting a jet into a huge huge building.
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I don't know he wouldn't rent him a plane...seems like this guy is giving mixed signals about what he thinks of their piloting skills.
 
DGM said:
No longer with him, looking for a bathroom, who cares. He actually said that was the only one omitted" Where?
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Didn't say it was the only one omitted. Not sure if he actually said that..sorry if I gave that impression. You can look at the DOD releases...and compare them to all of his photos. Look at the links I gave it is all there.
 
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