Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

[mrkinnies]

Look at the other videos of the same collapse that are calibrated right or are using better mics, the individual explosions are very loud and very distinguishable individually.

This is just classic. First you tell me even the crappiest microphone will pick up the sounds of explosions, then you tell me, using the example I showed, why the microphone couldn't pick up the explosive sounds properly suggesting that better mics or ones with greater calibration do pick up the sound. The mic in question was only subject to some wind or does that cause crazy interference? The buildings in my video clip were in open air, unlike WTC7 which had its lower floors surrounded by other buildings, yet the microphone still couldn't quite cope.

What is it to be - are mics all the same or do they have limits?

And no, your video clips do not show many of the initiations. Most start as global collapse is a second or two into its stage. The first stage of collapse starts several seconds before that. The only one which shows the whole collapse from close up at street level is the one with the cops and the microphone is already picking up the noise of those people on the street which is akin to my example and you accept in that case that the microphone was unable to pick up the explosive sounds due to the wind. Why doesn't the microphone near those cops pick up the sound of the building falling (which it doesn't except for the faintest of rumbles) or, assuming it was a natural collapse, the sounds of the breaking structure and penthouse destruction which must have been deafening?

You've hardly made me look silly as you asserted you would have you?

 

[bill smith]

Good video EDX. I've seen maybe two fires in my life and there were explosions in both.
Chris Mohr

Have you seen this clip Chris ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oew1KYnC428

 

[mrkinnies]

The standard "things" is, for 911 truth, 911 truth don't understand models, the goals of NIST, and, 911. The building falls straight down? How did it get across the street and damage other buildings? Do you understand what straight down means, and that watching a video is not 3d? Did you know quibbling about straight down will not make your version of 911 come true.

I spent 7 years at architecture school dealing with models so I can spot when someone is trying to pull the wool over my eyes as NIST has tried to do.

I'm not the one quibbling about straight down. If WTC7 had toppled over it would have ended at 90 degrees to its original standing position; at most it was a degree or two for at least 50% of its drop. Quite an amazing feat for a natural collapse for it requires support to be lost across the entire floor plan at once. If any part of that support had stayed intact, the building would have rotated sharply and quickly - but it didn't.

The funny thing is, I had your fellow debunkers, DaveTHomasNMSR and NoahFence, telling me that WTC7 toppled over yesterday. Edx then says it didn't topple...."why would it have toppled over?" he stated.

You guys need to talk to each other because its obvious you don't know what you are looking at.

 

[mrkinnies]

Have you seen this clip Chris ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oew1KYnC428

That's brilliant Bill, thanks for posting.

Either this has been overdubbed to fit the visuals or it is the real thing and the cameraman is responding to the sounds of explosions. Of course, those noise could just be computer terminals or aerosol cans going off, but I don't believe so.

triforcharity claims that explosions required to cut steel would have been heard across Manhattan and sure enough, these ones are.

 

[beachnut]

I spent 7 years at architecture school dealing with models so I can spot when someone is trying to pull the wool over my eyes as NIST has tried to do.

I'm not the one quibbling about straight down. If WTC7 had toppled over it would have ended at 90 degrees to its original standing position; at most it was a degree or two for at least 50% of its drop. Quite an amazing feat for a natural collapse for it requires support to be lost across the entire floor plan at once. If any part of that support had stayed intact, the building would have rotated sharply and quickly - but it didn't.

The funny thing is, I had your fellow debunkers, DaveTHomasNMSR and NoahFence, telling me that WTC7 toppled over yesterday. Edx then says it didn't topple...."why would it have toppled over?" he stated.

You guys need to talk to each other because its obvious you don't know what you are looking at.

You have no clue what a model is, next time try engineering school, your 7 years of architecture school, 7 years? Failed to save you from falling for lies and moronic claims made by 911 truth. Don't worry, most engineers and architects did not fall for the lies you have fallen for.

What are your claims? Your big mistake is attacking NIST like 911 truth does. If you had reality based claims, you could publish them in a real journal and break the big inside job you have, but then reality steps in and your claims are delusional nonsense. If you doubt this, go ahead, submit your claims and find out for yourself.

What is your big picture claims on 911 and how will you be able to save Gage from being a fraud and a liar as he rakes in 300k from people who can't figure out 911?

 

[mrkinnies]

You have no clue what a model is, next time try engineering school, your 7 years of architecture school, 7 years? Failed to save you from falling for lies and moronic claims made by 911 truth. Don't worry, most engineers and architects did not fall for the lies you have fallen for.

What are your claims? Your big mistake is attacking NIST like 911 truth does. If you had reality based claims, you could publish them in a real journal and break the big inside job you have, but then reality steps in and your claims are delusional nonsense. If you doubt this, go ahead, submit your claims and find out for yourself.

What is your big picture claims on 911 and how will you be able to save Gage from being a fraud and a liar as he rakes in 300k from people who can't figure out 911?

Care to discuss NCSTAR 1A with me or are you going to insinuate all day?

 

[beachnut]

That's brilliant Bill, thanks for posting.

Either this has been overdubbed to fit the visuals or it is the real thing and the cameraman is responding to the sounds of explosions. Of course, those noise could just be computer terminals or aerosol cans going off, but I don't believe so.

triforcharity claims that explosions required to cut steel would have been heard across Manhattan and sure enough, these ones are.

Explosions after the collapse. Wow, you are backing in explosions after the collapse; this is sad. Bill is brilliant, she has failed to figure out 911 too. She is just like you, physics free, and happy to spread lies without thinking.

 

[mrkinnies]

Explosions after the collapse. Wow, you are backing in explosions after the collapse; this is sad. Bill is brilliant, she has failed to figure out 911 too. She is just like you, physics free, and happy to spread lies without thinking.

Oh dear beachnut, now you make yourself look very stupid.

Ask yourself this, if you wanted to hide the explosions of a CD would you A) put a pillow over each explosive device or B) spread out the timing of each detonation to occur individually in the hours and minutes before the collapse so as not to draw attention to lots of explosions going off at once when the building does fall?

 

[beachnut]

Care to discuss NCSTAR 1A with me or are you going to insinuate all day?

Doubt 911 truth will suddenly start to comprehend models by pretending to discuss NCSTAR 1A, and this will not make Gage less of a fraud spreading plagiarized nonsense from 911 truth to beg for donations from people who have not tried to figure out 911. It does not take much to debunk the nonsense Gage has, anyone with a grade school education can do it, 7 years of architecture school should be overkill, why did it fail you? 7 years? Do you have a masters degree? Or what?


A pillow? You have not worked with explosives. You are saying WTC7 had explosives going off at 11 am. Good one. This new nonsense, something new, 10 years of failure and something new, from a 7 years Architect, you graduated, or what? This is good, back in the explosions, the explosions which go off hours before the collapse. Wow, this is new. Will this help Gage? Yes, if you are qualified as something, he can quote you as an expert and fool some more people.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Yep, there you go, it did fall straight down. Even NIST in NCSTAR 1A says it did...as one block.

You know perfectly well that NIST didn't say the building fell "straight down"; you posted the quote yourself in post #429. Why are you lying?

Dave

 

[mrkinnies]

Doubt 911 truth will suddenly start to comprehend models by pretending to discuss NCSTAR 1A, and this will not make Gage less of a fraud spreading plagiarized nonsense from 911 truth to beg for donations from people who have not tried to figure out 911. It does not take much to debunk the nonsense Gage has, anyone with a grade school education can do it, 7 years of architecture school should be overkill, why did it fail you? 7 years? Do you have a masters degree? Or what?

I did a 2-year urban design degree also.

Perhaps you'd care to show me how you debunk Gage so quickly. Perhaps you could include some examples from NCSTAR 1A or can you not comprehend their models either?

 

[mrkinnies]

You know perfectly well that NIST didn't say the building fell "straight down"; you posted the quote yourself in post #429. Why are you lying?

Dave

NCSTAR 1A Page 20...

"The entire building above the buckled-column region then moved downward as a single unit, completing the global collapse sequence."

Note the word downward....not sideways...but DOWNWARD AS A SINGLE UNIT

 

[bill smith]

That's brilliant Bill, thanks for posting.

Either this has been overdubbed to fit the visuals or it is the real thing and the cameraman is responding to the sounds of explosions. Of course, those noise could just be computer terminals or aerosol cans going off, but I don't believe so.

triforcharity claims that explosions required to cut steel would have been heard across Manhattan and sure enough, these ones are.

This was shot about 11:00 am. The North Tower collapsed at 10:28: Can you imagine the racket of weakening explosions in WTC7 as they used the noise and cover of the North Tower collapsing ? These later explosions were probably final touches.

 

[beachnut]

I did a 2-year urban design degree also.

Perhaps you'd care to show me how you debunk Gage so quickly. Perhaps you could include some examples from NCSTAR 1A or can you not comprehend their models either?

You don't comprehend engineering models, next time do a dual major.
Gage debunks himself, he has no evidence, no clue, zero on 911 issues. He only fools people who can't think for themselves. 911 truth is like Bigfoot believers, no need to debunk.

Don't quibble about it, prove your claims, publish them in a real engineering journal. Why have you failed to do that?

Prove anything Gage claims. Exactly, you can't do it.

 

[mrkinnies]

This was shot about 11:00 am. The North Tower collapsed at 10:28: Can yoiu imagine the racket of weakening explosions in WTC7 as they used the noise and cover of the North Tower collapsing ? These later explosions were probably final touches.

And assuming a natural collapse (as bizarre as that is), where's the noise of the collapsing penthouse structure and all that buckling NIST states happened in WTC7. Did the microphones miss that too or would the windows have masked such deafening sounds?

 

[mrkinnies]

You don't comprehend engineering models, next time do a dual major.
Gage debunks himself, he has no evidence, no clue, zero on 911 issues. He only fools people who can't think for themselves. 911 truth is like Bigfoot believers, no need to debunk.

Don't quibble about it, prove your claims, publish them in a real engineering journal. Why have you failed to do that?

Prove anything Gage claims. Exactly, you can't do it.

More insinuation. Come on discuss NCSTAR 1A with me?

 

[beachnut]

This was shot about 11:00 am. The North Tower collapsed at 10:28: Can you imagine the racket of weakening explosions in WTC7 as they used the noise and cover of the North Tower collapsing ? These later explosions were probably final touches.

Finally, some new delusional claims. Did you break the evidence free moronic claims to Mackey? What did Gage say about this new evidence you have made up out of your own warped version of 911?

You and mrkinnies now claim there were weakening explosions. How does this dovetail with Gage's delusional claims? Is this approved by Gage?

 

[bill smith]

And assuming a natural collapse (as bizarre as that is), where's the noise of the collapsing penthouse structure and all that buckling NIST states happened in WTC7. Did the microphones miss that too or would the windows have masked such deafening sounds?

In a natural collapse you couldn't have all four corners drop at the same time. Picture the four corners of a table when you cut all four legs at the same time.

 

[mrkinnies]

Finally, some new delusional claims. Did you break the evidence free moronic claims to Mackey? What did Gage say about this new evidence you have made up out of your own warped version of 911?

You and mrkinnies now claim there were weakening explosions. How does this dovetail with Gage's delusional claims? Is this approved by Gage?

I and many truthers have always claimed the use of weakening explosives. I thought this was common knowledge but clearly I'm wrong. This is the significance of the explosive noises heard throughout the day. Gage talks of this although as you know, he won't go down the conspiracy route so mentions them and nothing more.

 

[mrkinnies]

In a natural collapse you couldn't have all four corners drop at the same time. Picture the four corners of a table when you cut all four legs at the same time.

Exactly.

NIST can't explain this and neither can the debunkers!