Richard Gage Blueprint for Truth Rebuttals on YouTube by Chris Mohr

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There were many other professional organisations there who would almost certainly have filmed the collapse from choppers Chris. News organisations gather news for instance and would have done their job. Also government technical bureaus to record the event for the record and future forensic studies.

News choppers were grounded, weren't they? If there WAS any choppers in the air, they probably were owned by the authorities, and had no camera pointed at WTC 7. It took on the order of 15-20 seconds for it to collapse, and there wasn't any warning - so the choppers, if they even had recording devices, could have easily missed it.
 
Hi all,

I still have a couple nontechnical rebuttal videos to go, but here is one I'm really proud of: at last... an explanation of how 8 stories of the north perimeter wall of Building 7 could have come down at freefall. Doesn't that mean no resistance? Wouldn't that require controlled demolition? That idea carries a lot of traction for the 9/11 Truth movement, but does the science support that commonsense assertion? Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkbDyAJuirg

The meat of the technical explanation starts around halfway through. I don't know of any better layman's explanation (though as much as I tried to simplify, it is still a bit complex). I owe a big debt of gratitude to a lot of the JREF people who gave me great answers to this central question over the past several months.

Who wrote the scripts for your presentations?
 
You heard from one guy on the internet? Where do you get your "high percentage of bona fide antisemites" figures from? Source?

So much for the veneer of civil discourse. It didn't take long for you to adopt the old guilt by association or big tent twoofyism in which anyone who questions 9/11 is now responsible for what some anti-semite says.

This is not civil discourse, Chris, this is the oldest trick in the debunker book.

I always laugh at this " your a bigot " kind of logic.

The premise of someone being a bigot is that they generalizations they make about the people they are bigoted toward are wrong. For example, racists attribute all kinds of negative things toward blacks, they are lazy, they rape white women, they are obsessed with friend chicken, etc.

Now, in the real world this isn't true. But lets take a step into fantasy world for a minute and say that the vast majority of blacks, if not all, portrayed this stereotype. No one would have the right to call the people pointing this out bigots because, the things they are pointing out are true. They may be mean to say, they may not cause people to get along, but if they were true the person is no longer a bigot, just telling the truth.

And that is where this whole " your just intolerant" garbage fails in regards to 9/11. No one is saying all truthers are anti Semites , but the fact is that it contains a much higher percentage of these people than other movements, like skepticism, feminism, moderate religious beliefs, etc. And this is so noticeable, that one can find examples of it constantly just by browsing any 9/11 truth related website.

And furthermore, seldom are these people treated the way they would be in other circles. If a resident JREF'er , who was very skeptical , hated woo, etc. started expounding upon holocaust denial, to make a point about, lets say, psychics, he would be ripped apart. The nicest thing that would be said would be " Your premise of disliking psychics is sound, but your reasons you use to back it up are wacky as ****" , but within the truther circles there is this kind of " You know, that is something worth looking into" attitude, regardless of how extreme and obviously wrong the person is. You let them have their fantasy, and they let you have yours, is the attitude i notice most often.

To tie this in to your post a bit more, this "Your just picking on us." logic is the oldest trick in the truther book. Playing the victim, is the truthers main weapon, always has been always will be. It is to truthers as the revolver is to cowboys, it would be odd to think of a truther that didn't try and use this logic. Even when it is plainly silly, it gets busted out, the best example of this was slightly after the event, for myself.

Was at and running a punk show , with the uninventive title of " **** the government" , getting into the debate , i was accused of being everything from a pro government shill, to an agent provocateur. I just laughed at the absurdness of the accusation. And still 10 years later, the truthers hold on to the victimization card like they are john wayne and it is their trusty peacemaker.
 
9:45 am. (or there abouts). I can look up the exact time if you really need to know.

Correct: Do you think that the attached video proves that choppers were in the air much later and could have filmed the collapse of WTC7 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WJgFc4wIaQ&feature=related

'' There were many other professional organisations there who would almost certainly have filmed the collapse from choppers Chris. News organisations gather news for instance and would have done their job. Also government technical bureaus to record the event for the record and future forensic studies.

As I said to assume that none of this happened is unreasonable in my opinion.

But each to his own judgement. I suggest that you hone your skills in answering this question for future public debates. ''
 
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Correct: Do you think that the attached video proves that choppers were in the air much later and could have filmed the collapse of WTC7 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WJgFc4wIaQ&feature=related

'' There were many other professional organisations there who would almost certainly have filmed the collapse from choppers Chris. News organisations gather news for instance and would have done their job. Also government technical bureaus to record the event for the record and future forensic studies.

As I said to assume that none of this happened is unreasonable in my opinion.

But each to his own judgement. I suggest that you hone your skills in answering this question for future public debates. ''
No. There were no aircraft in the skies after noon. That video was shot shortly after the collapse of the north tower.
 
No. There were no aircraft in the skies after noon. That video was shot shortly after the collapse of the north tower.

So not 9:45 then ?

Even though the chopper could have landed immediately ?
 
I don't think he said the video existed, he says it should have. The FAA grounded all aircraft and that was completed by noon. His point is moot.

I get that. He's suggesting the video should exist. I'm saying should have and could have don't matter. Either there is video or there isn't.
 
I get that. He's suggesting the video should exist. I'm saying should have and could have don't matter. Either there is video or there isn't.
One things for sure. There was no video from an aircraft. This is kind of "trollish" for Bill. I find it hard to believe he does not know the US airspace was shut-down on the morning of 9/11.
 
Who wrote the scripts for your presentations?
I wrote the scripts. Does anyone have any opinions on my recent videos, especially my technical explanation of the collapse of Building 7 (starting halfway through #18). Who'da thunk a brand new rebuttal of the 9/11 Truth Building 7 "Silver Bullet" would be less interesting than what helicopters coulda woulda shoulda videoed?
 
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