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Miernik Wieslaw sent this version of his OP to John Blanton 25 June and received an answer the same day.
I'm impressed by mr Blanton's promptness and tact.
 
My correspondence with John Blanton
To: "John Blanton" <skeptic75287@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 2:22 AM


Wiesław Miernik
Poland

What is import_ant to translate is that the paranormal (extrasensory) force is placing polish words in songs, most often English-language songs. If you listen to recordings on website here www.miernik-wieslaw-muzzo.pl you can confirm the authenticity of this statement, which was placed there by paranormal force. Evrybody can make a pendant - based on the picture - and wear it. Its shape has a therapeutic effects. It prevent diseases and cure chronic ones. If you wear it 6 months, you start to
dream more often (you have more frequent dreams). The healing power will be greater than diseases. You will notice it after a year of wearing it, and only if the patient wearing the pendant is not bedridden. The examination will not be problematic, if the persons chosen for the examination have not been dreaming the dreams . It is likely that every person will confirm that pendant has contributed to the fact that they were dreaming Dreas. Miernik

to Wiesław Miernik:


Very good. If you are interested in obtaining the $12,000 prize you will need to come up with a way to conclusively demonstrate the pendant works as you say. Let me know if you have a method to do this.

The first problem I see would be to find somebody who does not dream. Of course, there are many who think they do not dream but really do. How can you determine who does not dream?

If you have a pendant that works you can send it to us for examination. Here is our address:

The North Texas Skeptics
P.O. Box 111794
Carrollton, TX 75011-1794

All correspondence related to the NTS Paranormal Challenge will be published in our newsletter and posted on our Web site.

Best regards,

John Blanton
Skeptical Web Master
http://www.ntskeptics.org
214-335-9248
 
Why are you continuing to bother this poor man with your untestable claims when you know perfectly well there will be absolutely nothing he can do with them, and that you need to provide a testable claim and a sensible test protocol?

Your claim that there are Polish words in English songs is untestable. People hear all sorts of patterns in what is to them random noise, as English is to you. It's the auditory equivalent of seeing a face on the moon, or the face of Jesus in a cheese sandwich. There is no way to establish whether you're hearing more words in this way than would be expected purely as a result of this well known phenomenon.

Your claim that your pendant causes people to dream more is untestable. There is no way to reliably establish how many dreams someone is having per night, and hence whether the number of dreams has really increased.

The only claim you've made that is testable is that your pendant inproves general health. I gave you a protocol to test that in post #6.
 
I listen to a lot of Spanish, Italian and French music (e.g. Pata Negra, Faber, or Renaud). My girlfriend (an anglo) is constantly laughing at what she hears in English. You'll find that the better your English gets, you less you'll hear this nonsense in Polish songs. Nothing paranormal here. Is the cheeseburger bird really saying "cheeseburger"? Not even close. But you still hear it.
 
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Pixel42 said:
It has been explained to you repeatedly that the only kind of test that would be accepted as adequate proof of your pendant's miraculous powers by JREF or any other sceptical organisation (or, for that matter, by any sensible person) is a double blind one, like the one I described for you in detail in post #6.

Why, then, did you waste your time submitting this worthless claim and test suggestion to the North Texas Skeptics?
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I think the bigger question is why is it, people who claim magic powers, always want to do anything but the proper test?
 
Your claim that there are Polish words in English songs is untestable. People hear all sorts of patterns in what is to them random noise, as English is to you. It's the auditory equivalent of seeing a face on the moon, or the face of Jesus in a cheese sandwich. There is no way to establish whether you're hearing more words in this way than would be expected purely as a result of this well known phenomenon.



Words inserted by the force of extrasensory very much. In the song No pride team Gren Day is their eleven, and the song Cannot forgrt You Gloria Estefan sings seven. This is a credible witness. You can not overthrow him.
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
Words inserted by the force of extrasensory very much. In the song No pride team Gren Day is their eleven, and the song Cannot forgrt You Gloria Estefan sings seven. This is a credible witness. You can not overthrow him.
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I'm quite sure the singers of these songs do not even know what the Polish words in question are. They are simply singing an English song, and are not witnesses to anything.

The only witness to the words you hear is you (and anyone you point them out to) and you are simply hearing familiar patterns in what is to you random noise, just as everyone does. There is nothing "extrasensory" going on, it's perfectly normal.

As Mojo says the (Latin) lyrics of Carmina Buranda are particularly fruitful for English speakers. My favourite English line heard in this particular song is "This octopus, let's give him boots".

ETA: Link to 4 pages of YouTube videos of Carmina Buranda with misheard lyrics: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=o+fortuna+misheard+lyrics&aq=4&oq=O+Fortun

Just to give you some idea of how common what you're experiencing here is.
 
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...and here's evidence that songs in Hindi are really in English. I'm failing to see the point.
 
Pixel42 said:
I think he wants us all to make one of his pendants, wear it for up to a year, and convince ourselves of its healing powers that way.

What he still doesn't seem to have grasped is that even if some more people did bother to make and wear his pendants, and even if they did convince themselves that their health had improved as a consequence, that would only be yet more worthless anecdotal evidence. He would be no nearer having an acceptable protocol with which to apply for the JREF challenge.

As for him hearing Polish words in English songs that sounds like auditory pareidolia, which is also what causes people to think they hear words in random noise: http://www.skepdic.com/evp.html
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He's got to be dreaming !
 
My correspondence with John Blanton
Subject: 4 pendant to research
To: "John Blanton" <skeptic75287@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:44 AM


Wieslaw Miernik
Poland

Somebody, who has pendant with Buddha several years, will have a dream if
he is healthy. This person discover that illnesses destroy the dreams.
Please inform me, if You are going to research this pendant. I think that
many people in the world don’t have a dream, so you can find them
without problem. You should trust what is it change in their life.
I send pendant to research.
Do You mind publish this information in your bulletin?

Yours faithfully
Wiesław Miernik

Weislaw,

We look forward to receiving a sample of the pendant. I will let you know when we receive it.

Best regards,


John Blanton
Skeptical Web Master
http://www.ntskeptics.org
214-335-9248
 
Message from Australia
Wieslaw,
Thanks for your email.
Attached is the full description of our $100,000 challenge.
However, just looking at the description of your challenge to me shows it would probably be impossible to implement.
Not even counting the fact we only conduct tests in Australia on Australian residents, there are several problems with your test:
<![if !supportLists]>¡ <![endif]>Who has the paranormal powers - you or the pendant? Therefore, even if the test were successful, we could not award the money.
<![if !supportLists]>¡ <![endif]>Choosing people who definitely do not or hardly ever dream is fraught with problems, primarily because it would be impossible to verify - how do you avoid someone claiming they don't dream but who really do?
<![if !supportLists]>¡ <![endif]>Likewise ensuring that their claims after the test period that they can now dream is impossible to verify.
<![if !supportLists]>¡ <![endif]>Also, a test running for at least a year is likewise impossible to verify without constant surveillance, and we (or any other group) would not be able to monitor a test condition such as that over that period of time.
Therefore, finding mutually acceptable test conditions, which is part of the challenge requirements, would be unlikely. So, thank you for your message, but I think we would not and could not proceed with your challenge.

Regards

Tim Mendham



Executive officer & editor
Australian Skeptics Inc
Tel: 02 8094 1894
Mob: 0432 713 195
Fax: 02 8088 4735



PO Box 20
Beecroft NSW 2119
Australia
 
As I asked before:

Pixel42 said:
Why are you continuing to bother this poor man with your untestable claims when you know perfectly well there will be absolutely nothing he can do with them, and that you need to provide a testable claim and a sensible test protocol?
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Bothering a different man with your untestable claims is not going to get you anything except yet another person explaining to you why your claim is untestable.
 
Message from IIG West

Thank you for contacting the IIG.

We are unclear how wearing a pendant will increase your dream frequency and what that has to do with a paranormal claim. Not sure how this could be tested as we believe that most people dream, but only some people remember their dreams. With a little encouragement those that do not remember, when prompted will begin to remember.

Finding people who cannot dream would be a challenge and beyond our means to find a large enough control group that would be willing to wear a pendant for the amount of time needed.

We would suggest if you have not already tested yourself under controlled conditions to do so. In order for the test to be carefully controlled you would need to take several pendants and conceal from yourself and the wearers which is the "true" pendant and which are the control pendants. Even you cannot know which are which until after the results are determined.

Have the testers report back after a determined period of time whether or not they have improved the frequency of their dreams. Only after all the results are in can you determine which person had the "true" pendant. Even this test is not perfect, but it is a good test to start with.

The IIG will be interested in your results when you have finished. Remember it is very import_ant to rule out outside interferences so we can focus on the real claim you are making. Also it is import_ant to note that if a protocol were designed to the satisfaction to both of us you would still need to come to our Hollywood location or to one of our affiliates.

Thank you for your interest in our continued search for paranormal powers and expanding the frontiers of science!

Yours Truly,

Susan Gerbic
Investigator: IIG West



From: Wiesław Miernik <wieslawmiernik@wp.pl>
Subject: 50000$
To: info@iigwest.org
Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:25 PM
 
Miernik Wieslaw said:
Message from IIG West

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We would suggest if you have not already tested yourself under controlled conditions to do so. In order for the test to be carefully controlled you would need to take several pendants and conceal from yourself and the wearers which is the "true" pendant and which are the control pendants. Even you cannot know which are which until after the results are determined.

Have the testers report back after a determined period of time whether or not they have improved the frequency of their dreams. Only after all the results are in can you determine which person had the "true" pendant. Even this test is not perfect, but it is a good test to start with.

The IIG will be interested in your results when you have finished.
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Are you going to take their advice?
 
What if members of the IIG wear your pendant and say that nothing happens?

This is not a testable claim.

Ward
 
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