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Merged News Corp. execs step aside | U.S. begins investigation | Will Fox News be abandoned?

Exactly--really, going down that road is for people that want to kill or at least permanently imprison their political opponents. I'd hope most of us believe that's wrong.
 
gnome said:
Exactly--really, going down that road is for people that want to kill or at least permanently imprison their political opponents. I'd hope most of us believe that's wrong.
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I am just suggesting that Corporations that cause deaths through malice or criminal negligence have no right to exist, and that executives who cause or allow deaths should get the full treatment.

I still want to see some assurance that Fox Goons didn't off the whistleblower.

Whatever the outcome on his death, Newscorp should be liquidated under RICO statutes. We KNOW that they committed a felony.
 
We’ve seen many mentions these last few days of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, the U.S. law under which some suggest Rupert Murdoch could be prosecuted. But is it really plausible that Murdoch and/or his News Corp. could be prosecuted in the United States for alleged bribes paid to British police officers by British employees of its British sister company? Yes, it is. So says the act, and so say two legal experts I spoke with Tuesday who have extensive experience in working with the law.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...n-lawbreaking-how-he-could-be-prosecuted.html
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To begin a Reign of Terror is not my intent. Political assassination is tactically foolish at this point since some elements of the law still function. The removal of Murdoch, (and his propaganda machine), is critical to the restoration of the rule of law.

Things would have to get really much worse before I would consider starting a Reign of Terror. Murdoch was an accomplice in shielding and strengthening non-democratic and foreign elements within the United States.

With Murdoch out of the picture, some of the other News Sources might actually be able to speak the truth.

Killing at this time, would be quite premature.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
What you've been given is more than enough.
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Sorry, but I have no reason to trust British law enforcement until we are sure that every cop with any involvement with Newscorp has been sent home in disgrace or to the lock-up in shackles.

And Newscorp is still a criminal organization.
 
leftysergeant said:
Sorry, but I have no reason to trust British law enforcement until we are sure that every cop with any involvement with Newscorp has been sent home in disgrace or to the lock-up in shackles.

And Newscorp is still a criminal organization.
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So that's it? No reasonable conversation about NewsCorp and the investigation into their alleged and admitted crimes until Lefty's unreasonable demands are met.

Why does it feel like a 9/11 CTer is pissing on this thread when I read Lefty's posts? Look, there is an entire thread devoted to the CT of the whistleblower/cokesnorter's death. Take it there.
 
Dr. Keith said:
So that's it? No reasonable conversation about NewsCorp and the investigation into their alleged and admitted crimes until Lefty's unreasonable demands are met.
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No, I am not suggesting that the rest of their activities be ignored. There is more than probable cause to start getting search warrants to go over all of Fox Goons' communications with a delousing comb right now. There should probably also be some sort of freeze placed on their assets so that they cannot buy or sell substantial interests until the bribery thing is resolved and an adequate weight of fat carved off of Murdoch sr and jr and Ailes' butts.

If found guilty of any of the charges, the corporatioin should then be palced in recievership and liquidated under RICO statutes.

I just don't want to shrug off the death of the whistleblower without a second look.
 
DeathDart said:
Things would have to get really much worse before I would consider starting a Reign of Terror.
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But there is a point at which you would consider it. How... delightful.

I guess lefty doesn't have to fantasize about political violence alone any more. I'm sure you'll be the best of friends.
 
Ziggurat said:
But there is a point at which you would consider it. How... delightful.

I guess lefty doesn't have to fantasize about political violence alone any more. I'm sure you'll be the best of friends.
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So, if the literal Nazis staged a putsch you wouldn't consider joining the Resistance? Interesting.

Because I think every real patriot has a point, whether he has considered it or not, when government stops being The People and becomes the enemy of The People. At that point I expect to see resistance of some sort.
 
FOX: The NSA's Outlet for Blackmail?

It appears that an organization within the U.S. Government was helping FOX illegally obtain information on persons living within the U.S. The Big Lie that warrant-less wiretapping was not used against American citizens looks like it is about to come home to roost.

At a minimum, the NSA would have detected FOX Black Ops operations. Or just maybe the NSA was the hand in FOX's glove. It would help explain a lot of the Democratic, and a few the ethical Republican candidates, losing against less talented, but ideologically purer candidates, (See Tea Party)
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“There are only two possible ways Ailes found out,” Mr Cooper said. “Either Brock told him or they got hold of Brock’s phone records and saw I spoke to him.”

He first alleged that the records were obtained by researchers in the “brain room” in 2005 in an article on his website about the launch of the channel.

“Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News,” he wrote. “I knew it also housed a counter intelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie.”

Mr Cooper said yesterday that he helped to design the high-security unit. “It was staffed by 15 researchers and had a guard at the door. No one working there would engage in conversation.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...k-ops-department-former-executive-claims.html
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BenBurch said:
Ziggurat said:
DeathDart said:
Things would have to get really much worse before I would consider starting a Reign of Terror.
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But there is a point at which you would consider it. How... delightful.
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So, if the literal Nazis staged a putsch you wouldn't consider joining the Resistance? Interesting.
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The word was not "resistance", the words used were Reign of Terror.

I'm sure Ziggurat would "resist". I believe you would "resist", Ben. But someone who would consider repeating Robspierre's bloody savagery is not what you want.

None of which is even the point. What we have here, is two people openly talking about killing mere political opponents, today, just a few months after we had one of our bigger hissy fits in JREF politics over the Tuscon-Loughner shooting.

Any nutbar who wants to kill political opponents, today, is just that - a nutbar, a whackjob, a <insert leftysargeantism here>.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
The word was not "resistance", the words used were Reign of Terror.

I'm sure Ziggurat would "resist". I believe you would "resist", Ben. But someone who would consider repeating Robspierre's bloody savagery is not what you want.

None of which is even the point. What we have here, is two people openly talking about killing mere political opponents, today, just a few months after we had one of our bigger hissy fits in JREF politics over the Tuscon-Loughner shooting.

Any nutbar who wants to kill political opponents, today, is just that - a nutbar, a whackjob, a <insert leftysargeantism here>.
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The problem a lot of people don't realize is that once you start to use violence and murder, only someone ignorant of history would say, there will just be a little killing. These events tend to spin out of anyone's control.

If things got bad enough, I think that me and the other patriots would only want to kill a few people. The people who started the French revolution thought the same thing. It spun out of control and became the Reign of Terror.

When the point is reached where rational men think that the only solution is killing, all your choices will be bad.

Read a history of what happened to ALL the people who signed the Declaration of Independence. It ain't pretty.
 
Duh, I had remembered a rather exaggerated version of events about the signers of the Declaration Of Independence. Only a few were sought out because they had signed the Declaration of Independence. The other bad things that happened to them was mainly because the country was a war zone.
 
DeathDart said:
The problem a lot of people don't realize is that once you start to use violence and murder, only someone ignorant of history would say, there will just be a little killing. These events tend to spin out of anyone's control.
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Yeah, war is hell.

It's disturbing as hell that you seemingly intend to commit war crimes should you ever find yourself in one.
 
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