The Oldest Religious Structures & Ancient Aliens?

edge said:
I found this to be a repeating theory:
Another puzzle is mysterious alignment of world's ancient sites. Easter Island is exactly aligned along a straight line around the center of the Earth, with the Nazca lines, Ollantaytambo and the Great Pyramid of Egypt. Other world wonders that are within one tenth of one degree of this alignment include: Perseopolis, the capital city of ancient Persia; Mohenjo Daro, the ancient capital city of the Indus Valley; the Oracle of Zeus-Amon at Siwa; and the lost city of Petra. The Ancient Sumarian city of Ur and Angkor temples in Cambodia and Thailand are within one degree of latitude of this alignment.
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A perfect example of our previous description of these sites being filled with lies, distortions and ignorance.

The places listed have nothing in common with each other. The author tried some different lines until he found one that covered two sites that he thinks are important and then looked to see what else fell on that line. It is not a puzzle. It is not a mystery.
 
Oh, and there was no worldwide flood any time in the past 30,000 years. If there were we would see genetic bottle necks in every land-based mammal - but we don't.
 
edge said:
Look just north of Easter Island over the first ridge underwater and slightly to the right.
There are a couple of unusual landmarks.

Northwest of the island it’s pretty shallow, that would be a good place to look.
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On a scale of one to ten, how would you rate this as evidence, edge?

I really am curious.
 
As God explained to Joan of Arc shortly before she was burned at the stake, "Of all the possible explanations for the presence of the sword, you chose the least likely one. You assumed I put the sword there. Then you compounded your error by imagining a message I intended to convey."

About as likely as assuming aliens traversed light years of space, found some primitive simians on a planet, taught them how to cut, move, and stack big stones, and left it at that. Perhaps they were unimpressed with the simians' learning curve?

"Let them stack stones", the aliens decided, and went home.

Sure. That's what happened. Way more likely than the simians learning to cut, move, and stack big stones on their own.
 
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Toontown said:
As God explained to Joan of Arc shortly before she was burned at the stake, "Of all the possible explanations for the presence of the sword, you chose the least likely one. You assumed I put the sword there. Then you compounded your error by imagining a message I intended to convey."

About as likely as assuming aliens traversed light years of space, found some primitive simians on a planet, taught them how to cut, move, and stack big stones, and left it at that. Perhaps they were unimpressed with the simians' learning curve?

"Let them stack stones", the aliens decided, and went home.

Sure. That's what happened. Way more likely than the simians learning to cut, move, and stack big stones on their own.
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Our local skating club put on a show,'Joan Of Arc On Ice'. It wasn't a success.
 
Loony website said:
Another puzzle is mysterious alignment of world's ancient sites. Easter Island is exactly aligned along a straight line around the center of the Earth, with the Nazca lines, Ollantaytambo and the Great Pyramid of Egypt. Other world wonders that are within one tenth of one degree of this alignment include: Perseopolis, the capital city of ancient Persia; Mohenjo Daro, the ancient capital city of the Indus Valley; the Oracle of Zeus-Amon at Siwa; and the lost city of Petra. The Ancient Sumarian city of Ur and Angkor temples in Cambodia and Thailand are within one degree of latitude of this alignment.
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Edge, something you're going to have to learn about eventually is called the Law of Large Numbers. Basically, the gist is that if you have 10,000,000 of X, a one-in-a-million shot will happen about 10 times. It's not magic, or aliens, or gods, but simple statistics. When you compound this by fuzzying up the data--who gets to decide what sites are important here and where lost cities are?--it becomes certain that even the most unlikely things will happen by shear random chance.

In other words, far from discovering proof of aliens (why would they give a rat's behind if their cities were all in line?), the author has taken the very first step in discovering MATH.
 
Ladewig said:
How the heck did you figure that out?! I was completely lost on that.
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The first time he used it, I couldn't for the life of me figure out who was statuesque.

The second time, I got smart and asked my seven year old niece.

Akhenaten said:
He's been woRrking as a tRranslatoRr foRr quite some time now.
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Oh, I wouldn't call it work. :)
 
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edge said:
Look just north of Easter Island over the first ridge underwater and slightly to the right.
There are a couple of unusual landmarks.

Northwest of the island it’s pretty shallow, that would be a good place to look.
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What exactly are you looking at, google earth or another representation of the terrain under the sea. What is the depth of the area you are looking at?

An expedition to look at the sea bottom off Easter Island for a few weeks would cost around 15 million more or less. So I would sugget you get your fringe associates to pass the hat, hire a Russian ship with underwater survey gear (the cheapest - perhaps the Akademik Mstislav Keldysh) obtain a few dozen scientists with a variety of specialities and go for it.
 
National Geographic Channel ran a series of programs relating to ancient Egypt this afternoon and I actually got to watch some of them (no small feat, what with a six year old and an eight month old in the house). One of the hour-long episodes took a fascinating look at what we have learned about King Scorpion in the protodynastic period some 5200 years ago. That's around 800 years before the construction of Khufu's pyramid at Giza. The fascinating thing is that we can see the beginnings of monumental architecture in the form of burial mounds. These mounds evolved into mastabas, which evolved into stepped pyramids (essentially mastabas stacked on top of one another), which evolved into pyramids. What is even more relevant to this thread is the fact that there is now strong evidence that King Scorpion inherited a culture that was already some 500 years old. We don't need to invoke aliens to explain the achievement of ancient societies. We can see them developing all by themselves using the same brains that we have today.
 
RoboTimbo said:
The first time he used it, I couldn't for the life of me figure out who was statuesque.

The second time, I got smart and asked my seven year old niece.
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Which only goes to show that Edge isn't even at the level of a 7 year old girl.


Edge, I saw the amount Hans said that an expedition to the eastern island would cost. Fifteen million dollars, or more. You'd go there on your wild goose chase, waste more money than many people would make in a lifetime of work, only to find exactly what the people on this thread have said is the truth.

Really, just give up the foolishness and appreciate just how awesome the world really is.
 
Mudcat said:
Which only goes to show that Edge isn't even at the level of a 7 year old girl.


Edge, I saw the amount Hans said that an expedition to the eastern island would cost. Fifteen million dollars, or more. You'd go there on your wild goose chase, waste more money than many people would make in a lifetime of work, only to find exactly what the people on this thread have said is the truth.

Really, just give up the foolishness and appreciate just how awesome the world really is.
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Underwater archaeology costs about 35-50 times more than the average dry land studies - however I think Edge is talking about 'taking a look', I did post a link to people and a study by these people who did that but it appears Edge ignored it. However is there 'nothing' to the NW of East island? There is a possibility that there is 'something' there, we, AFAIK have not photographed every square metre nor sunk test pits there. Is there a civilization just waiting to be discovered off shore of Rapa Nui who for some odd reason left no trace on RN or anywhere else, probably not....
 
edge said:
Look just north of Easter Island over the first ridge underwater and slightly to the right.
There are a couple of unusual landmarks.

Northwest of the island it’s pretty shallow, that would be a good place to look.
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I couldn't see anything of interest, but I'm also a failure with those 3-D pictures that start off being variegated colour scrambles and resolve into images of flowers and such-like when you bring them closer to your nose.

Could you post up just what it is you found of interest?
And also, do you really think it's an area that hasn't been thoroughly explored?
 
OMG all.

Edge may be on to something.

I just started checking the locations of all these ancient sites.

And I found that, if you pick any two sites, any two sites at all, and make aline through them, it makes a circle aroudn the entire globe, with both sites exactly on the line!

That is so wierd!

I find it amazing that so many peopel believe the discovery of geometry is a mystical event...:)
 
Beyond Gantenbrink's Door

New Evidence Revealed

by

Christopher Dunn
http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.html

Oooh a spelling error OMG.
Spoiler show how thoughtful.
You Guys are so nice it's baffling, such good saints you are.
This is as close as I can get to what's near and under the waters at Easter Island.
Right near the hand on the map in the white circle upper left corner, is a dome grab and pull to the center of the map.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Easte...spn=0.529892,0.877533&oe=UTF-8&gl=us&t=h&z=10


Picture from here:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_alindx.htm
 

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Thanks, edge!
I looked it over and don't see anything special there.
Are you quite sure this isn't a 'face on Mars' sort of effect?
I did enjoy the link you gave, thanks!
 
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edge said:
Beyond Gantenbrink's Door

New Evidence Revealed

by

Christopher Dunn
http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.html
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New???

From 2002?

Apart from the linked article being obvious nonsense from the outset, the mystery of what's beyond Gantenbrink's door(s) was pretty much settled by the Djedi Robot Mission in May this year. IIRC, we've already discussed it in this very thread.


edge said:
Oooh a spelling error OMG.
Spoiler show how thoughtful.
You Guys are so nice it's baffling, such good saints you are.
This is as close as I can get to what's near and under the waters at Easter Island.
Right near the hand on the map in the white circle upper left corner, is a dome grab and pull to the center of the map.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Easte...spn=0.529892,0.877533&oe=UTF-8&gl=us&t=h&z=10
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What???


edge said:
Picture from here:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_alindx.htm


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Meh. Circles, schmircles.


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Clearly we need to start searching the sea floor off the Queensland coast to find evidence of the ancient Stradbrokians.
 
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