Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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jaydeehess said:
IIRC the cameras were not functioning at the time. That too would explain why there were no videos.



If there were videos then yeah probably. However its not going to be an immediate requirement in the investigation since the planes have already crashed and all on board are already dead by this time.

IF? So you don't know whether or not the FBI asked for the videos later that day or not? Why even bring it up then, just to trash talk the FBI?



Again with the "if"? Are you going to bring anything to the table other than your own wild speculation and trash talk?



Perhaps you are looking to establish a new nickname, "Iffy".
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When the FBI are actually working on non politically relevant crimes, they are not too bad. In the past they were a political tool against enemies of the powerful. They have fallen again to being used as tools against democratic processes.

In my book the FBI has 2 strikes against it.

And I did mean to imply that they could have done a bad job on purpose.

Incompetence does have a limited amount of credulity, especially repeated over and over.
 
DeathDart said:
When the FBI are actually working on non politically relevant crimes, they are not too bad. In the past they were a political tool against enemies of the powerful. They have fallen again to being used as tools against democratic processes.

In my book the FBI has 2 strikes against it.

And I did mean to imply that they could have done a bad job on purpose.

Incompetence does have a limited amount of credulity, especially repeated over and over.
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You have not shown that the FBI was incompetant in this case. So far all you have done is create fictional accounts in which you portray the FBI as incompetant either simply or by design.

Shall I get Cap'n Kirk to beam you aborad?
 
jaydeehess said:
The fact that you can produce a fictional account does not grant such a scenario any standing in reality, Iffy.

If that were the case I would expect that we should be zippping about the universe in Starships with a Canadian at the bridge by now, aided by his loyal pointy eared friend, his Scottish engineer, an oriental gay guy and an Afro-American woman in a very short skirt.
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Have you ever tried to come with a better design for rocket engine?
Since the lunar surface is depleted in volatiles, I came up with using molten aluminum and liquid oxygen as a propellant.

A couple of years later some people come up with nano-aluminum in a water ice matrix.

Their idea is genius and my idea is a damn good way of getting killed.

I really do have an anchor in reality, I recognize the laws of physics.
 
DeathDart said:
You have people, who don't think that they guility, with capital punishment hanging over their heads, highly motivated to make sure no one sees the Swiss Cheese (Backed up by the ******* FBI). And yes there is absolutely corruption in the FBI.

When I say shell game, I meant shell game.

I think that most of the damage and corrosion is in the middle third of the core. The lower core is massive . This is just a guess. This is probably not visible in the debris pile until material is removed.
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I bolded the only part of your post that makes any sense at all. You're welcome.
 
Sunstealer said:
Cough, Cough...


Magnetic Thermite and Thermal Bonding

So that would be you then. roflmao
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Yep that's me. The quantity of thermite bugs required along with the high probability of their discovery shot it down. People who found anything like this technology would have definitely remembered it. Plus after watching fireworks on the 4th of July the optical signature (blinding white light) would have been a giveaway.

Idea failed
 
I have seen two pictures of swiss cheese steel, their appearance and chemistry remind me vaguely of nickel-iron meteorites.

The investigators were attempting to recover as much of the steel from the floors at, and above and below the impact floors.

Ideally they could have done so.

As the building collapsed it would seem to be impossible to reconstruct what went where. If they had surveyed the site very carefully and with an archaeologist's discipline. I don't think it would have been any problem to recover more than 80% of the floors that they were wanting to look at.

In under 4 years I could have gotten this result. The experts you list may have halved my time.

Back then some of the computer disciplines that are relevant were not as powerful, but they were still adequate.

The only shortcoming was the people who had control, did not want a proper investigation. Their reasons for not wanting to do a proper investigation are unknown, but the results speak for themselves.

Less than 1% of the desired floor(s) material was recovered.

If you are hiding the other 99% of the building steel please hold up your hand.
 
DeathDart said:
Yep that's me. The quantity of thermite bugs required along with the high probability of their discovery shot it down. People who found anything like this technology would have definitely remembered it. Plus after watching fireworks on the 4th of July the optical signature (blinding white light) would have been a giveaway.

Idea failed
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So instead you just come up with some other random nonsense. Your acid idea is just as unworkable. If you'd thought it through you'd understand why.
 
Two Points

The first that their was not a proper investigation done.

By saying their reasons are unknown I separate my conclusions about their reasons, from the conclusion that the lack of material shows their real intent, vis a vis an investigation.

What God wants, God Gets.
What the management wanted from this cleanup, they got. And they did not put the materials for the investigation very high on their list of priorities.

WTC 7 Is one very big anomaly.

What explanation explains both?
 
DeathDart said:
... but you may not have had as much exposure to corruption as I have. ...
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You need help. 911 was done by 19 terrorists who killed 8 pilots and flew planes into buildings. When the rules of the game were known, the terrorists failed and people took action to stop them. You have no idea what happen on 911 because you hate people and spread lies.

The only corruption on 911 were 19 murderers who killed people without warning, and did it like you do understanding 911, without thinking past you own hate and bias.

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Two Points

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What explanation explains both?
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Your ignorance on 911 issue, structural engineering, physics, and more.
 
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DeathDart said:
I got a fun question, who slipped the terrorists past Securacom security?

Knowing the Israelis either that man, (or woman), was incredibly well connected in Israel, or he or she has been dead for quite some time.
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If you know that why are you still alive?
 
DeathDart said:
They were caught flat footed. A few of them might have had a clue. but the terrorists came out of no where as far as they were concerned.

And the official story would get a pass for a long time, Ii is possible that the Shin Bet (Securacom) may have been afraid to ask a lot of questions because of where it might lead.

The organized crime people wouldn't know what to believe. They are setting up for an arson and terrorists hit the buildings instead?
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Fear seems to rule your world.
 
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