Ok... what "argument" do you argue it is that I can't follow, what history am I "ignorant" of, and do you say these things simply because you disagree with me, counselor?
I revised that because I thought it might breach the membership agreement, you responded quickly, oh well.
You are ignorant of 1) The Enlightenment, without reference to wikipedia, what are some of the legal, political, and social theories of the leading Enlightenment thinkers codified in our Constitution?
You are ignorant of 2) the beliefs of our founders. Most of the important figures were socially Christian because there was no acceptable competing lifestyle. Within the context of a country that 100% Christian, like Israel is 100% Jewish, the so-called Founding Fathers were incredibly radical. Like Descartes and thinkers that came before who were forced to pay lip-service to Christian beliefs because they would be ostracized, tortured or even killed if they failed to ascribe to the accepted dogma, the founders followed mainstream religious practice and revolted in small ways.
George Washington always left religious services early, before communion. Thomas Jefferson cut all of the miraculous hogwash out of the Bible. Adams said, "The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity." Thomas Paine: "It is the duty of every true Diest to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."
Madison:
What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had oncivil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyrrany. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of
the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty
have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
You are ignorant of 3) the historical progression of philosophy. It is not stunning that thinking people believed in God before Darwin. There was not a reasonable explanation for how things came to be. They used God to fill the limits of their understanding. "Deism" was a massive step towards atheism, and it was only a lack of scientific knowledge that kept most of these people from taking the final step.
The Constitution can be easily constructed with reference to thought developed completely independently of the Bible. There is nothing from the Bible contained in that document. Hell, if it wasn't for the thousand years of religious rule in Europe known as the Dark Ages, the Rennaisance, Enlightenment, and subsequent democratic revolution may have occured in the year 900.
The thought codified in our Constitution was developed DESPITE the best efforts of Christianity.
Otherwise, counselor, please feel free and do offer any specific, substantive and concise counter to any quote of mine.
Yeah, that's what I did when you responded with infantile attempts at humor. Odd that you would try to dismiss an argument with a goofy one-liner then get upset that your contentless gibberish wasn't treated like a reasoned argument.
