Merged Continuation - 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

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This is coming to a conclusion much sooner than that.

Someone asked about the statue of limitations. For a conspiracy, it is reset every time one of the members does something so that the conspiracy can move forward.

I don't think a response on a blog would count. Darn!

Sooooo,,,???

When others here respond to your posts you consider that moving the conspiracy forward do you?

Not that far removed from Clayton's "I am right because others tell me I am wrong" paranoia.
 
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Would killing 3000 people be levying war against the United States?
I am sure that there are more than 3 people involved in the Conspiracy, so I think we can find 2 witnesses.

No, as the term war is used it can only mean a declared state of war. The power to declare war is held exclusively by the Senate. Of course the hijackers committed numerous violations of 18 USC many of which carry the death penalty if convicted.
 
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

Would killing 3000 people be levying war against the United States?
I am sure that there are more than 3 people involved in the Conspiracy, so I think we can find 2 witnesses.


<sigh> and you have had close to 10 years to find ONE out of the thousands that would have been required to carry out such a conspiracy.......
meanwhile one stained blue dress could not be kepp a secret for just a couple of years.

More proof of the troofer FAIL :rolleyes:
 
To the sounds of volley fire is after a formal trial by the government courts and not some kangaroo ad hoc court. A very good chance to defend themselves.

Though way too many will try to plead incompetence rather than intent.

A trial by a jury.

Only a few will be executed. A few of the condemned might choose to die by firing squad.

The charge mostly likely to be punished by death will be treason.
Nonsense, as you fail to comprehend what happen on 911. It takes minutes to figure out 911, the record going to Passengers on Flight 93 for taking action. You post nonsense, lies and delusions; how many years will it take for you to figure out 911? 10?
 
I wonder if Chris7 will ever come back to defend his "FDNY should have endangered more lives to save a useless, low-priority building" claim.

I wonder why he ran away?
 
Some posts moved to AAH.

Please get back to the discussion of 9/11 CT. Thanks.
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No, as the term war is used it can only mean a declared state of war. The power to declare war is held exclusively by the Senate. Of course the hijackers committed numerous violations of 18 USC many of which carry the death penalty if convicted.

Wellllll,,,,, Al Qada did state that they considered themselves to be at war with the USA so any US citizen aiding and abetting their actions could be considered treasonous. However this would require that DD admit the existance of Al Qada as a separate entity from the the USA gov't.
If OTOH DD considers AQ to be a false flag entity and all conspirators in this to be US citizens then its not a war declared by an outside entity.

Nor is it a group of states trying to separate themselves from the USA.

DD tells us its a plot only to garner support to send US troops into the middle east so that Israel does not have to fight in those countries(or something similar)

So what it then is, is simple(?) mass murder and conspiracy to commit mass murder and a few other nasty charges (lieing to a congressional committee perhaps), but its not treason.

Reminds me of those who wanted to try Julian Assange for treason. He is not a US citizen so NOTHING he does can be considered treason, espionage perhaps but not treason.
 
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Sooooo,,,???

When others here respond to your posts you consider that moving the conspiracy forward do you?

Not that far removed from Clayton's "I am right because others tell me I am wrong" paranoia.

Plus if I were wrong the MSM would have nailed this shut with fact after fact after fact. But the MSM has not done that. In fact nothing happened after the Cheney Administration lied about WMD. Where was the MSM for that?

The MSM savaged and forced to resign a sitting President for lying about political mischief about which he had no foreknowledge.

The MSM savaged and forced into decline the nuclear power industry over a nuclear DISASTER, TMI.

http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/nuclear_disasters/nuclear_disasters.html
No one was directly injured as a result of the accident.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/reaction/readings/tmi.html

Inside job or not, why hasn't 9/11 gotten the investigative scrutiny of TMI or Watergate?

Where's Geraldo Rivera?
 
I wonder if Chris7 will ever come back to defend his "FDNY should have endangered more lives to save a useless, low-priority building" claim.

I wonder why he ran away?

Not to be a defender of C7 but he is self employed as I understand it and this is the construction season if he lives anywhere that gets snow in winter. So he may have had to travel to a job site for a while and does not have access to a 'puter.

Just guessing:eek:
 
Plus if I were wrong the MSM would have nailed this shut with fact after fact after fact. But the MSM has not done that. In fact nothing happened after the Cheney Administration lied about WMD. Where was the MSM for that?

The MSM savaged and forced to resign a sitting President for lying about political mischief about which he had no foreknowledge.

The MSM savaged and forced into decline the nuclear power industry over a nuclear DISASTER, TMI.

http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/nuclear_disasters/nuclear_disasters.html


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/reaction/readings/tmi.html

Inside job or not, why hasn't 9/11 gotten the investigative scrutiny of TMI or Watergate?

Where's Geraldo Rivera?

Short answer is that the MSM HAS indeed produced several docuementaries on the subject of 9/11. There have been a few which actually take on the wild speculations and utter nonsense that abounds in the spectrum of those who believe something other than 19 suicide terrorists were responsible for the death and destruction of Sept 11/01.
The main reason why the MSM IGNORES them is that it is 99% crap.
My personal asessment;
No planes -pure compost
Space-a-beams - pure compost
magical incindiary/explosive - pure compost
David Copperfield style magical disappearing aircraft - pure compost

The MSM had REAL evidence with which to pin the Watergate scandal on Nixon.
The MSM dug and got real evidence on how Three Mile Island occured and in BOTH of those cases there was direct evidence of wrong doing.
The Watergate theives were there to specifically get docuements to aid the Nixon campaign.
TMI DID have a release of radioactive materials and the public wanted to know, especially anyone living downwind of other nuke stations, HOW that came about.

In the case of 9/11 its plain as the face in the mirror that aircraft were hijacked and commandeered by suicide mission terrorists who then flew them (or attempted to fly them) into targets representing American economic, military and political power. (my own assessment is that FLT 93 was destined for the Capitol Building, it, like the other three, is very large and distinctive. Easily spotted from the air).
End of story? Not completely perhaps but that is not to say that there was a vast, complex and utterly unneccessarily complicated plot involving hundreds if not thousands of 'agents' and making use of technologies that are pure guesswork of internet speculators working from the context of a world view in which such plots occur regularily and with great mailce aforethought.
 
I in fact do recall several instances of MSM anchors savaging GWB for his
-inaction in response to the reports that Al Qada was preparing attacks on US soil
-sitting there dumbfounded in an elementary classroom when informed of the first impact
-utter nonsense about "mushroom clouds" over US cities if the USA did not invade Iraq
-utter nonsense about Iraq's nuke program (yellow cake)

I do recall that Cheney's right hand man was ousted for releasing the name of a CIA asset in response to that asset's husband's calling out the admin on the issue of yellow cake.


Were you living under a rock during all this Clayton?
 
Inside job or not, why hasn't 9/11 gotten the investigative scrutiny of TMI or Watergate?

The 9/11 disaster was the single most investigated crime in the HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

Try to keep up.

Also, you don't take great pains to investigate something that is plane as day. 19 terrorists, 4 aircraft. Hasn't been proven wrong yet.
 
I don't mind people with different viewpoints than I, but there are few things as aggravating as debating somebody who both isn't read up on the subject, and refuses to listen to anything those who disagree with him have to say.

The "la la la I can't hear you" tactic most certainly does not ROCK.
 
The 9/11 disaster was the single most investigated crime in the HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.

Try to keep up.

Also, you don't take great pains to investigate something that is plane as day. 19 terrorists, 4 aircraft. Hasn't been proven wrong yet.

Try and keep your story straight.
 
Well forgive me junior.

I should have said you don't need to take great pains to investigate something so obvious. But they did anyway.

Put it this way. Cop car pulls someone over. Someone else pulls up, and first looks into the dashboard camera, then goes up to the cop and slaps him upside the head and kicks him in the jimmies.

That's exactly how obvious 9/11 was. To the rest of the world.

Now do you really think it would be necessary to take great pains to investigate that little bit of violence against a cop? I don't.

I apologize profusely for forgetting rule number one in talking to a truther - be extremely specific, but don't worry about the fact that they can't EVER be specific.
 
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I in fact do recall several instances of MSM anchors savaging GWB for his
-inaction in response to the reports that Al Qada was preparing attacks on US soil
-sitting there dumbfounded in an elementary classroom when informed of the first impact
-utter nonsense about "mushroom clouds" over US cities if the USA did not invade Iraq
-utter nonsense about Iraq's nuke program (yellow cake)

I do recall that Cheney's right hand man was ousted for releasing the name of a CIA asset in response to that asset's husband's calling out the admin on the issue of yellow cake.


Were you living under a rock during all this Clayton?

No trigger was pulled. Get it? All the gates and gatekeepers circumvented by 9/11 and no one was fired? No one demoted? No one court martialed? Guy buys insurance on his property and he and 2 family members normally in the building when the plane hit are mia?
 
All the gates and gatekeepers circumvented by 9/11 and no one was fired? No one demoted?

You just replied to a post saying someone in the administration got fired, by saying nobody got fired.

Why am I not surprised.


Guy buys insurance on his property

First time for everything.

Oh wait - you NEED insurance on pretty much everything you own? How about that.

You'll find out eventually - having insurance really isn't all that surprising. It's a requirement.
 
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Plus if I were wrong the MSM would have nailed this shut with fact after fact after fact. But the MSM has not done that. In fact nothing happened after the Cheney Administration lied about WMD. Where was the MSM for that?

First off the MSM roasted the White House for the WMD thing. Do you not remember that? However the WMD thing was not the end-all-be-all that many thought it was. Many supported the war irrespective of whether any WMD's were present in Iraq or not. I was one of them.

Secondly. The MSM presenting "facts" means little to those driven by ideology. The MSM has been showing the facts about climate change since the 1980's and still loads of people claim it isn't real while humming with their fingers in their ears. The MSM has been all over presenting the facts about evolution for almost a century and still loads of people claim it isn't real while humming with their fingers in their ears.


Inside job or not, why hasn't 9/11 gotten the investigative scrutiny of TMI or Watergate?

Where's Geraldo Rivera?

9/11 got way more investigative scrutiny than both those events put together.
 
DD tells us its a plot only to garner support to send US troops into the middle east so that Israel does not have to fight in those countries(or something similar)

I said something similar months ago.


Political movers and shakers are like smart parents who let the little spats work themselves out while directing and instigating the desired behaviors.

9/11 has brought chaos to the ME.

While Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swYtlTZk1J0&NR=1

Now, in addition, somehow half the ME, except Saudi Arabia where most of the alleged 9/11 hijackers came from, has imploded with revolution supported by US led NATO air support.

While Israel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3hE0EDBV1k
 
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