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I have combed through our national standard for fire investigation, NFPA 921, but nowhere in it does one find an exemption allowing for the destruction of evidence for buildings over 10 stories tall
 
After 9-11 the Israelis had a free hand in Gaza and the West Bank.
The Likud party are direct descendants of the Haganah and the Irgun, except they never stopped being terrorists
 
DeathDart said:
I have combed through our national standard for fire investigation, NFPA 921, but nowhere in it does one find an exemption allowing for the destruction of evidence for buildings over 10 stories tall
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Are you aware that NFPA921 is not a law? Do you know that NFPA is not a governing body? Did you know I'm a member of NFPA?

So, What law was broken?
 
Oh yes I did forget about the U.S. Attacking one of Israel's principle enemies (Iraq) on false evidence.
 
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Oh yes I did forget about the U.S. Attacking one of Israel's principle enemies (Iraq) on false evidence.
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You debate like a typical irrational ideologue conspiracy theorist who hasn't a clue. Scattergun, never answering direct questions, change the subject as soon as you're cornered.

It's almost as if you think we've never seen this before. :boggled:

The question is WHAT LAW WAS BROKEN?
 
Yep. Every single one of these things he's bringing forward have been dealt with before. Every single one. There have been multiple threads on NFPA 921, on the steel recovery and the misrepresentation the truthers make of what NIST studied (they make it seem as though none of the rest was even looked at by anyone, merely because NIST only saved select pieces for further study)... and my God, how many times has "false flag" showed up in this forum? I think only close cover before striking and lather, rinse, repeat have been printed more times.

The only thing anyone needs to do is identify the key terms in his posts and do forum searches against them. And also look in 911myths, debunking 911, and Gravy's page. Look at the use of NFPA 921 above, and Wirt Walker elsewhere; I told him about that. He probably didn't even know what it was, and just "knew" that there was a problem because he saw some truther site or comment about it.

This guy's no challenge. I don't even think he's worth replying to any longer.
 
All you need to know about this poster is summed up by this quote:

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I have difficulty remembering minutiae but once I understand something it is literally hardwired in. Information that does not fit with what I already understand is not incorporated. I can hold information in my minds hands and learn the shape of it.
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As I said before, that's just sad.
 
What is happening right now, has its roots in the past.

The Supreme Court giving rights to Corporations.
The Scaife and Kochs and all their Think Tanks
Unlimited funding for corporate politics
Wages down, profits up.

Part of this was actually planned, but most of it was self interest becoming systematic corruption.

The Key event was 9-11

While the so called press might be liberal in a few areas, two areas that they are very obedient is Israel and Corporate power.

NeoCons + Kochs + Strongly Jewish Influenced Mainstream Press= Nearly Unstoppable

After 9-11 the NeoCons Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and there ilk became the masters over the Intelligence agencies. They directly worked with Cheney to set up the Iraq war.

The Iraq war put that Idiot George W. Bush in a strong position for re-election to stay around long enough to put in some Supreme Court Judges.

The Scaifes and the Kochs had groomed several judges for the Supreme Court (for over the last 30 years) Clarence Thomas and John Roberts being two of their successes.

Does this mean that the Kochs knew about 9-11 before it happened. Not a bit, They didn't care what their allies were up to as long as they got results.

With the Israeli wiretaps and covert activity they could damn near blackmail anyone. Both the Kochs and the NeoCons loved this.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pulled impeachment off the table because she was being blackmailed. And don't you even dare say that Bush didn't do anything to be impeached.

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Our Intelligence Agency Problem

Our intelligence agencies were aware of the terrorists and that was a problem.

Michael Hayden was the solution.

The lawyers was the excuse Hayden would use to shut down the system tracking some of the Hijackers.

The lawyer was probably "Senior Counselor," Robert L. Deitz of the NSA.

The system was shut down because it was violating civil rights.

Robert L. Deitz would also defend warrant-less wire tapping. Mr Deitz had the moral and legal integrity of a pretzel.
 
Let me guess you are going to say that no one could keep this secret.

People with Security Clearances earn a lot more than people without one.

Without a Security Clearance you cannot do some jobs that you literally trained your entire adult life for.

Bush administrators could pull your security clearance without any legal recourse.
 
Another way to keep illegal secrets was built into the intelligence community.

Compartmentalization

Say if you were the head of the NSA's counterintelligence unit you could split up an illegal task into pieces. Give separate pieces to different compartments.

If someone starts sniffing around your Israeli allies espionage, you yank their chain. You won't have to explain why.

The head of the NSA's counterintelligence unit lost his immunity to questioning when Obama made some changes.
 
DeathDart said:
I have combed through our national standard for fire investigation, NFPA 921, but nowhere in it does one find an exemption allowing for the destruction of evidence for buildings over 10 stories tall
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NFPA 921 said:
The NFPA has no power, nor does it undertake, to police or enforce compliance with the contents of this document... Users of this document should consult applicable federal, state, and local laws and regulations. NFPA does not, by the publication of this document, intend to urge action that is not in compliance with applicable laws, and this document may not be construed as doing so.
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Yeah, maybe you shouldn't have skipped the VERY BEGINNING of EVERY SINGLE NFPA publication.

So, got anything else?
 
Ok since Shin Bet operatives were controlling the security at all the departure points. They could have loaded a special device(s) with the baggage in the cargo hold.

Probably the best way is having bags of magnetic bondable thermite pellets spread throughout the cargo hold.

If they knew the device would not punch through it could have been a single pallet. 1000 to 2000 pounds seems adequate.

Again the thermite is only a possibility, not a probability.

If the debris had been correctly analyzed we would have a computer model that most people could agree with. The model may actually say that the fuel fire was sufficient and did collapse the buildings.
 
Ok since Shin Bet operatives were controlling the security at all the departure points
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Probably the best way is having bags of magnetic bondable thermite pellets spread throughout the cargo hold.
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Agreed. I believe that paper bags would have been best - plastic is bad for the environment, and prone to melting. Can't have thermite pellets in a melting bag, now can we?

If they knew the device would not punch through it could have been a single pallet. 1000 to 2000 pounds seems adequate.
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A pallet of pellets. Possibly protected prior to the pending pyro show by polyphropeline plastic. Perfect.

Again the thermite is only a possibility, not a probability.
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Actually, it's not. You understand that the aircraft would have to had STOPPED inside the building, terrorists would have had (oops...THEY) would have to had disembarked the aircraft, got a pallet jack and placed the pellets in the proper configuration, then let them sit there for an hour in a massive acres-wide fire, right?

That you even took the time to write the words "thermite could have been in the cargo of the airplane" speaks to the fact that you need help. Go get it, then come back.
 
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