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Clayton Moore said:
Wildfires? Compared to a 99 day 1 or 2 acre fire? Did you use a spreadsheet to figure out what to compare the 9/11 fires to?

http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn-dancing-Israelis.html


9-11 Mossad Agents Admit Mission



Paul Watson Reports Former BBC Presenter Now Admits 9/11 was an Inside Job

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKhtlLWkQXI
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Hey kiddo - you can't say "fires don't last 99 days" then pick and choose which facts you minimize. Either they DO last 99 days, or they don't.

And the fact is, they DO. All the time.
Grow up.
 
Christopher7 said:
That is a non answer. The question was if 38 million gallons was sufficient for the first 3 days.

You are wrong about it being 38 million gallons in the first 3 days and you are wrong about it being insufficient to reach the 12th floor. You are NOT an expert on this subject.

"After the WTC buildings collapsed, fire fighting and rescue operations continued. The fires at ground zero were smoldering for months after the attack (41). It was determined that 3 million gallons of water were hosed on site in the fire-fighting efforts between 9/11 and 9/21
In addition, there were two episodes of rain during the same 10-day period: on 9/14 and 9/20,21 (18), totaling 0.9 million gallons of water in the Bathtub area. Considering the neighboring areas, we take 1 million gallons from the rain. Therefore, a total of 4 million gallons of water percolated through the debris in the first 10 days and collected at the bottom of the Bathtub."
https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/241096.pdf

That is another non answer. How did they get millions of gallons to the sight if the water just trickled out of the supply line as you said it would do?

I did some research and I now know the answer but you still don't. The way they managed to get millions of gallons of water to the sight from the Harvey would necessarily deliver it at a pressure sufficient to reach the 12th floor and above as in this video of water being applied to the roof of 90 West St. from the building next door demonstrates.
at 3:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufz71bjwqvY
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No such thing as negative water pressure? I will stick with the experts,thank you.
 
NoahFence said:
Hey kiddo - you can't say "fires don't last 99 days" then pick and choose which facts you minimize. Either they DO last 99 days, or they don't.

And the fact is, they DO. All the time.
Grow up.
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Sad thing is I'm starting to think he's not a "kiddo" at all, and more, well, something more lengthy in age...Clayton Moore was the Lone Ranger from 1949–1951 and 1954-1957. I do not think one from the Youtube Generation would even know who the Lone Ranger is, much less the man who played him. Of course that is an assumption...

I love how he quotes eric hufschmid and thinks anyone is going to take him seriously though, it's laughable.
 
Could someone point me to the 'reason' the Pentagon didn't suffer broader 'wider' damage?

The wings and body of the plane that supposedly hit it are 'bigger' the the damage...

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This is where I stopped in my 9-11 'conspiracy' hunting. I started out looking for a single inconsistency. Today I heard about WTC Tower 7, owned by a guy who increased his insurance coverage to 'terrorist attacks', just 2 weeks before it happened. Then he went on to collect double, claiming since it was 2 planes, he was attacked twice. Now he owns the Empire State Building(?).

In my head, 9/11 was something 'the public' will never know everything about. Just like Roswell, the JFK assassination, and the Florida re-count.

I do not believe the 'official' line on what happened on 9/11 is 100% accurate.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Better just 9/11 as you might confuse the trusters.
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Oh, no...it's quite clear who's confused about what here. Please answer some of the questions presented to you over the past couple weeks. Ya know, like age, expertise, education, that sort of thing...or, like so many twoofers, do you just like to act like an expert without having any real world working knowledge what-so-ever?
 
King of the Americas said:
Could someone point me to the 'reason' the Pentagon didn't suffer broader 'wider' damage?

The wings and body of the plane that supposedly hit it are 'bigger' the the damage...

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This is where I stopped in my 9-11 'conspiracy' hunting. I started out looking for a single inconsistency. Today I heard about WTC Tower 7, owned by a guy who increased his insurance coverage to 'terrorist attacks', just 2 weeks before it happened. Then he went on to collect double, claiming since it was 2 planes, he was attacked twice. Now he owns the Empire State Building(?).

In my head, 9/11 was something 'the public' will never know everything about. Just like Roswell, the JFK assassination, and the Florida re-count.

I do not believe the 'official' line on what happened on 9/11 is 100% accurate.
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You should fact check what you "heard" regarding Larry Silverstein and WTC Tower 7. He had "terrorist attack" in the insurance for a good reason, like.,..ya know...circa 1993 something happened there....includes the word BOMB.
 
King of the Americas said:
Could someone point me to the 'reason' the Pentagon didn't suffer broader 'wider' damage?

The wings and body of the plane that supposedly hit it are 'bigger' the the damage...

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This is where I stopped in my 9-11 'conspiracy' hunting. I started out looking for a single inconsistency. Today I heard about WTC Tower 7, owned by a guy who increased his insurance coverage to 'terrorist attacks', just 2 weeks before it happened. Then he went on to collect double, claiming since it was 2 planes, he was attacked twice. Now he owns the Empire State Building(?).

In my head, 9/11 was something 'the public' will never know everything about. Just like Roswell, the JFK assassination, and the Florida re-count.

I do not believe the 'official' line on what happened on 9/11 is 100% accurate.
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There are over 40 points of irrefutable failure in the governments version.
The danger of 9/11, beyond the obvious, is that the MSM and its lack of discernible investigation make it complicit with the people who caused 9/11.
 
Oz1976 said:
You should fact check what you "heard" regarding Larry Silverstein and WTC Tower 7. He had "terrorist attack" in the insurance for a good reason, like.,..ya know...circa 1993 something happened there....includes the word BOMB.
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Do you know 'when' he purchased said policy to include it?

I am 'here' checking facts, now...
 
Clayton Moore said:
There are over 40 points of irrefutable failure in the governments version.
The danger of 9/11, beyond the obvious, is that the MSM and its lack of discernible investigation make it complicit with the people who caused 9/11.
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'complicit with'...?

I wouldn't go there. I think the inconsistencies could be a FYA sort of thing.
 
King of the Americas said:
Could someone point me to the 'reason' the Pentagon didn't suffer broader 'wider' damage?

The wings and body of the plane that supposedly hit it are 'bigger' the the damage...
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The wings are also rather fragile and broke to pieces. The more dense parts like engines and lanfing gear continued on through for some distance, but as they broke apart, smaller pieces were baffled by the dozens of columns in the areas they passed through.

In my head, 9/11 was something 'the public' will never know everything about. Just like Roswell, the JFK assassination, and the Florida re-count.

I do not believe the 'official' line on what happened on 9/11 is 100% accurate.
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The only inconsstancy is in that Condee, Rummy, the nosferatu VP and the Shrub claimed that there was no way to know that al Qaeda might go kamikaze.
 
King of the Americas said:
Super-impose the plane and get back to me.
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You're not capable of doing that in your own head? I see. Well, I'm under no obligation to cater to your handicaps, but since others have already gone to the trouble...

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/pentagon&plane.jpeg

You probably should have continued your research, chief, rather than stopping at the first thing that confirmed your beliefs.

ETA: This is rather enlightening, also:

 
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leftysergeant said:
The wings are also rather fragile and broke to pieces. The more dense parts like engines and lanfing gear continued on through for some distance, but as they broke apart, smaller pieces were baffled by the dozens of columns in the areas they passed through.



The only inconsstancy is in that Condee, Rummy, the nosferatu VP and the Shrub claimed that there was no way to know that al Qaeda might go kamikaze.
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The engines themselves would have done as much damage, or more, than the body of the plane, according to two airline pilots I've spoken with. Look at the holes made in the WTC towers...

And what came 'out' of this hole?

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You probably should have continued your research, chief, rather than stopping at the first thing that confirmed your beliefs.
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Yeah, I just found that...but if you'll notice the building is 'unharmed' at the edges...even if the wings were made of aluminum foil and wood, hitting a building at several hundred miles as hour is going to inflict SOME damage...
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
You're not capable of doing that in your own head? I see. Well, I'm under no obligation to cater to your handicaps, but since others have already gone to the trouble...

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/pentagon&plane.jpeg

You probably should have continued your research, chief, rather than stopping at the first thing that confirmed your beliefs.

ETA: This is rather enlightening, also:

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The first 2/3's of this video is AWESOME.

All that I need to see is a single serial # and a work order matching it from one of those plane parts, and I'm sold.
 
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