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ElMondoHummus said:
That's why I've put him on ignore. I don't even think he's serious about his "truthing". He's just grabbing any old excuse to be argumentative.

Heck, I wonder if he even believes what he posts. His pattern was just to reach for any old argument. That is characteristic of someone who's looking things up as he goes along.
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Telltale_tom on massive steroids
 
twinstead said:
The "government's version"? So you just think the government told us what happened on 9/11, and despite what you think is evidence to the contrary we just believe it no questions asked?

LOL. Believing everything you hear no questions asked is YOUR shtick.

The reason why there is swarming debunkers is because you folks are great for entertainment value. When I tire of you, I just turn off my computer and you disappear.
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Yeah, that is the funny part about such a childish post as his: It's as if there's merely one, monolithic narrative out there and it was put forth by the government. Hell, how many times are we pointing out personal witness testimony or independent reports to buttress a point? The reality is that 9/11 history is a convergence of narratives, some elements from the government, some from the news organizations, some from eyewitnesses, some from academics... the conspiracy peddlers oversimplify in their characterizations.
 
tempesta29 said:
There is no crime in repeating the truth. If you listened, perhaps its repetition wouldn't be necessary.
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The same could be said for you. But it's cool, we know you've abandoned skepticism all together and have "figured it all out". Unfortunately for you, no matter how many times you say it, it will not make it so. I often feel truthers repeat themselves more for their OWN benefit...still trying to convince themselves of this lunacy.
 
Haha. I stopped paying attention to the 9/11 """""""""""Truth""""""""""""" movement probably three years ago or so.

Three years later, it all pretty much looks the same.

Phew, truthers...just keep crushing it with your new research, investigations, publicity...wow, just wow!!!

Hilarious, but sad, to see CE and this cast of characters still holding on to...whatever this is now.
 
Oz1976 said:
The same could be said for you. But it's cool, we know you've abandoned skepticism all together and have "figured it all out". Unfortunately for you, no matter how many times you say it, it will not make it so. I often feel truthers repeat themselves more for their OWN benefit...still trying to convince themselves of this lunacy.
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Skepticism is what lead me to where I am. I once believed what you believed. The evidence convinced me otherwise. Truthers generally repeat themselves so, while people may not listen, they still hear. If you believed this were true, wouldn't you keep repeating it until people listened?
 
tempesta29 said:
Yet here you are: on an internet forum talking about 9/11 truth.
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... you have nothing new. Here you are, talking 911 truth, and you are on the side of failure. 10 years... tick tock,,,

The funny part, 911 truth said something, I looked it up, I checked it out. 911 truth lied. 911 truth, stillborn, September 11, 2001. 19 terrorists committed the most heinous murders since Hitler's final solution, trying to punish non-believers, in a nation where Christ is a prophet, the same for the failed 19. You should be so proud, you support 19 murderers by denying their acts. Good for you, super smart guy; failed; lost in space.

Be all you can be...

Present your facts. Or be gone.
 
tempesta29 said:
Skepticism is what lead me to where I am. I once believed what you believed. The evidence convinced me otherwise. ...
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Ah, the "enlightened" Truther--brilliant, noble, and courageous enough to see what the sheeple can't. That's new, right. :rolleyes:
 
tempesta29 said:
Skepticism is what lead me to where I am. I once believed what you believed. The evidence convinced me otherwise. Truthers generally repeat themselves so, while people may not listen, they still hear. If you believed this were true, wouldn't you keep repeating it until people listened?
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What evidence? Would you care to give me your theory?
 
tempesta29 said:
Truthers generally repeat themselves so, while people may not listen, they still hear. If you believed this were true, wouldn't you keep repeating it until people listened?
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If I believed it were true?

Here's the problem...I only believe something is true as long as the evidence supports it. With changing evidence and/or increased knowledge sometimes comes changing beliefs. That's what skepticism is about.

Truthers have been trying to present evidence and increase my knowledge for years, but it hasn't changed my beliefs because there is no alternative narrative that fits the evidence better than the generally accepted version of events. Just a train wreck of suspicions, irrelevancies, half-truths, and lies.
 
tempesta29 said:
Skepticism is what lead me to where I am. I once believed what you believed. The evidence convinced me otherwise. Truthers generally repeat themselves so, while people may not listen, they still hear. If you believed this were true, wouldn't you keep repeating it until people listened?
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If they're not listening the first time, what makes you think they'll listen the tenth time? No, you're not repeating your nonsense until people listen; you're repeating it until they believe.

That's generally referred to as brainwashing. I'm just thankful that your movement sucks at every conscious activity it attempts.
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
If they're not listening the first time, what makes you think they'll listen the tenth time? No, you're not repeating your nonsense until people listen; you're repeating it until they believe.

That's generally referred to as brainwashing. I'm just thankful that your movement sucks at every conscious activity it attempts.
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Totally untrue.

They've mastered Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V......
 
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7258225#post7258225

Since this thread, IIRC, started out as a discussion of 911 conspiracy believer's tactics and logical errors I thoughtthe above might offer a bit of discussion.

Seems that a JREF poster was inclined to make threats about taking legal action against this forum. I do not know the particulars but would guess that it was a supposed 'freedom of speech' issue.

If it was, then it illustrates another misconception by 911 conspiracy believers. "freedom of speech' does not entail being able to state anything you wish to state on a private forum, nor does it constrain moderators in any way shape or fashion.
If it did then PfT would have been in court many times over.;)
Its irrellevent to the issue of what is and is not allowed.
 
jaydeehess said:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7258225#post7258225

Since this thread, IIRC, started out as a discussion of 911 conspiracy believer's tactics and logical errors I thoughtthe above might offer a bit of discussion.

Seems that a JREF poster was inclined to make threats about taking legal action against this forum. I do not know the particulars but would guess that it was a supposed 'freedom of speech' issue.

If it was, then it illustrates another misconception by 911 conspiracy believers. "freedom of speech' does not entail being able to state anything you wish to state on a private forum, nor does it constrain moderators in any way shape or fashion.
If it did then PfT would have been in court many times over.;)
Its irrellevent to the issue of what is and is not allowed.
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I have a different speculation based on the "copyright infringement" thing.

IIRC I thought he said he worked for CiCorp, hence his old username. I bet he got in trouble cause someone found his posts on Google. Hence his name change. His pentagon thread still comes up on the first page when searching "cicorp". I bet he got threatened himself and went off the deep end trying to wipe out his bad decisions (naming himself after his employer) from search engines.

Just my theory.
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