Merged Cold Fusion Claims

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bruto said:
I have money to invest, and a thousand blown on a risky venture would not seriously affect me, but I'd pass on this one. It's not the only game in town.
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True, but how many "game"s have a possible 1000 to 1 (or better) return?

You'd agree wouldn't you, that if this is for real it's going to make those who invested in Microsoft early on look like pikers, wouldn't you? Did you miss Microsoft, too?

:D
 
Because I value my thousand dollars more than I trust Rossi, it's a no.

You seem a tad evasive with that answer though. Are you or are you not going to invest in this guy and this so called lenr reactor?
 
nvidiot said:
Because I value my thousand dollars more than I trust Rossi, it's a no.
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Ok, I'll mark you down that way.

nvidiot said:
You seem a tad evasive with that answer though.
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You think THIS ( http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7253108&postcount=1231 ) was evasive? :rolleyes:

nvidiot said:
Are you or are you not going to invest in this guy and this so called lenr reactor?
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When they allow that, and if I get the opportunity before the price of their stock goes through the roof. Yes. :D

Now is there anyone from this thread who will respond to my question? Just to see how risk averse you are. :cool:
 
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When they show some real evidence it works then it's worth considering. At the moment you might as well give it to the first random person you pass in the street.
 
BeAChooser said:
But by then you'll no longer be on the ground floor.

You are risk averse so you will never see that 1000 to 1 (plus) return.

You insist on a sure thing.
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See, this is just nonsense. No one is asking for a "sure thing", what we want is some evidence that it's not a complete scam. Because at this point, it looks like it is a complete scam.


Tell you what: I'll make you an offer. If you give me $1000 right now, I might give you $1 000 000 a year from now. Will you accept this deal?

Hey, it's a 1000 to 1 return! Surely the slight chance that I might not give you that $1 000 000 can't outweigh that sort of return!

Or are you "risk averse" too?
 
BeAChooser said:
But by then you'll no longer be on the ground floor.

You are risk averse so you will never see that 1000 to 1 (plus) return.

You insist on a sure thing.
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I know a lot of people which think like you. They are mostly gambler you see. A few of them even lost money to free eneergy scams, and even one to what I think was a nigeria scam. Because you know "this could be it and this would then be like printing money". But you see for 1 which WILL "be it" thee are millions of such a scam, so your 1 to 1000 quickly become like national lottery, where you can earn 1 million time your bet, but the chance to that are 1 in 140 millions. In other word the house *WINS*.

I am not a gambler. I understand the odds. But feel free to continue to gamble. It is your money, and you are (I assume) an adult, therefore you can do whatever you wish. Don't count on me on not calling it for what it is.
 
Horatius said:
Tell you what: I'll make you an offer. If you give me $1000 right now, I might give you $1 000 000 a year from now. Will you accept this deal?
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LOL!

If you actually have $1,000,000 in assets that you are willing to risk, here's the deal I will accept. I put $1000 in cash into an escrow account. You put a verifiable million in assets (cash, diamonds, gold, property deeds, etc) in the same mutually agreed upon account. We draw up an agreement where if in one year Rossi's claim to have achieved what's being described as cold fusion isn't obviously true (i.e, no MW power plant or something equally convincing), you get the entire contents of the account. But if there is a power plant generating a MW or similar proof that his e-cat works, I get the contents of the account. No "might give". Only *will give*.

Still game? :D
 
BeAChooser said:
I'm just curious. Given all that is currently known, would any of you take the opportunity to invest a $1000 in Rossi's venture for a small share of future profits? If Rossi's is for real, that $1000 would probably be worth millions just a few years from now? So how risk averse are you skeptics? :D
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If he did real calorimetry, not adverse at all, especially with some actual electrical metering.
 
unclep2k said:
I don't think it matters what anyone says you guys won't read the lenr research offered, you completely have your minds made up. I'm sure if the one meg plant comes online you will just think that is a fraud also. You won't believe in lenr until your grandmother buys one to cut her utility bills.
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Nice rhetorical spin, tell you what, you choose your favorite research paper and link to it.

Which data in which research paper do you like?

Iteration 0
 
BeAChooser said:
So I take it your answer is no.

Anyone else want to say yes or no?

Come on ... demonstrate how convinced you are this is a fraud.

And how risk averse you are.

:D
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I am not convinced it is fraud, and have stated so repeatedly. There is an offer of a gentlemen's bet for $100 to charity earlier in the thread.
 
Dancing David said:
There is an offer of a gentlemen's bet for $100 to charity earlier in the thread.
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You liberals. :rolleyes: Always wanting to give to *charity*.

Now perhaps if I get to pick the charity you have to give to ...

... and you give me some odds.

Afterall, I'm not saying I'm 50% certain this is real, but I am certain enough that I'd invest a $1000 for the chance at a $1,000,000. :cool:
 
BeAChooser said:
You liberals. :rolleyes: Always wanting to give to *charity*.

Now perhaps if I get to pick the charity you have to give to ...

... and you give me some odds.

Afterall, I'm not saying I'm 50% certain this is real, but I am certain enough that I'd invest a $1000 for the chance at a $1,000,000. :cool:
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Maybe you should read the thread, silly. Twas not me...

Tis an even bet...
 
BeAChooser said:
LOL!

If you actually have $1,000,000 in assets that you are willing to risk, here's the deal I will accept. I put $1000 in cash into an escrow account. You put a verifiable million in assets (cash, diamonds, gold, property deeds, etc) in the same mutually agreed upon account. We draw up an agreement where if in one year Rossi's claim to have achieved what's being described as cold fusion isn't obviously true (i.e, no MW power plant or something equally convincing), you get the entire contents of the account. But if there is a power plant generating a MW or similar proof that his e-cat works, I get the contents of the account. No "might give". Only *will give*.

Still game? :D
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And this just after you accused us of wanting "A sure thing"!

So answer me this: why do you demand so much evidence of my ability to (maybe) give you the money, but then turn around and say we're "risk averse" because we won't give money to some guy we think is trying to scam us?

Isn't it just barely possible that I'm an eccentric billionaire who is trying to make a point?

Or will you go with the most sensible and likely position, which is that I'm not "an eccentric billionaire", but in fact, some guy trying to walk away with your money?
 
So Horatius, I take it you aren't quite as confident of the outcome as you claimed? :D

How about the rest of you *skeptics*? Willing to take the offer I graciously made to Horatius but he declined? :p
 
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