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Clayton Moore said:
Read up on your black box 101. Then read up on the science of explosives and detonations. Someone said a black box was found at ground zero and nothing came of it. So what's your point?
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Where is the residue from the explosives? You're up against the Law of Conservation of Matter here. If there were explosives used there has to be residue. Remember, matter can neither be created or destroyed so the explosive would have been changed by heat and pressure from the blast but the material would be spread over a wide area. No residue, no evidence of explosives.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Someone said a black box was found at ground zero and nothing came of it.
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Probably because no black box was actually recovered. I find your faith in the infallibility and honor of complete strangers cute, but stunningly naive.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Read up on your black box 101. Then read up on the science of explosives and detonations. Someone said a black box was found at ground zero and nothing came of it. So what's your point?
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First class in Black Box 101 says they are not indestructible.
 
Craig4 said:
Where is the residue from the explosives? You're up against the Law of Conservation of Matter here. If there were explosives used there has to be residue. Remember, matter can neither be created or destroyed so the explosive would have been changed by heat and pressure from the blast but the material would be spread over a wide area. No residue, no evidence of explosives.
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In China.
 
You also have to explain the lack of explosive wiring. And how in the world all those explosives were placed in there. And why we saw nothing resembling cutter charge explosions.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Read up on your black box 101. Then read up on the science of explosives and detonations. Someone said a black box was found at ground zero and nothing came of it. So what's your point?
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I already told you; if the wiring and detonators were proofed against fire and impact, they're already more durable than the black boxes were. Flight recorders, quite frequently, are too damaged to provide correct data.

Can you give me a source for this claim of someone finding a BB?
 
Clayton Moore said:
In China.
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Well, yes, after they took months to clean up and were looked at by thousands of detectives and forensic experts, and that's after they were seen by thousands of cleanup workers who also failed to notice the detonators or wiring.

Oh, and discounting the beams that were shipped to memorials. Why didn't a Truther just sneak a few swabs from one of those? Or, heck, just volunteer for cleanup and steal a piece? There's still 40 acres worth of Fresh Kills with debris under it. That's not in China. All you'd need would be a shovel, or to volunteer for cleanup.
 
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In Clayton's defense, there may very well have been explosives. All he has to do is provide evidence that there was, because after all you can't go all willy nilly and accuse the "neocons" of an inside job with no evidence, can you?

Piece of cake, right Clayton?
 
twinstead said:
In Clayton's defense, there may very well have been explosives. All he has to do is provide evidence that there was, because after all you can't go all willy nilly and accuse the "neocons" of an inside job with no evidence, can you?
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Actually, there is a theory which states that Clayton can go all willy nilly and accuse the "neocons" of an inside job with no evidence.

There is another which states that this has already happened.
 
Clayton Moore said:
I have no idea how the three buildings were demolished. I just know that demolish and gravity collapse are mutually exclusive.
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On the contrary, a gravity collapse certainly "demolishes" a structure.

As for what is or is not possible, you are basing your opinion on the word of nutjob conspiracy theorists, and not on any base of knowledge which you personally possess. Education is a wonderful thing. Try reading this:

http://www.eng.uab.edu/cee/faculty/ndelatte/case_studies_project/L'Ambiance Plaza/ambiance.htm

In particular:
Suddenly, the slab fell on to the slab below it, which was unable to support this added weight and in turn fell. The entire structure collapsed, first the west tower and then the east tower, in 5 seconds, only 2.5 seconds longer than it would have taken an object to free fall from that height.
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000063 said:
I already told you; if the wiring and detonators were proofed against fire and impact, they're already more durable than the black boxes were. Flight recorders, quite frequently, are too damaged to provide correct data.

Can you give me a source for this claim of someone finding a BB?
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Here we go with the truster's I'll and ask say whatever comes to mind and as long as it's all in the right direction it won't be questioned by the local swarm.


if the wiring and detonators were proofed against fire and impact, they're already more durable than the black boxes were. Flight recorders, quite frequently, are too damaged to provide correct data.


Let's go trusters beat the crap out of that.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Actually, there is a theory which states that Clayton can go all willy nilly and accuse the "neocons" of an inside job with no evidence.

There is another which states that this has already happened.
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Nope. He is just a day or two away from the culmination of his multi-month intense investigation when he presents us with the bombshell evidence that will shut us up for good and bring the neocon perps to justice ;)
 
Clayton Moore said:
Here we go with the truster's I'll and ask say whatever comes to mind and as long as it's all in the right direction it won't be questioned by the local swarm.


if the wiring and detonators were proofed against fire and impact, they're already more durable than the black boxes were. Flight recorders, quite frequently, are too damaged to provide correct data.


Let's go trusters beat the crap out of that.
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Well, if it's in the right direction isn't that where debates SHOULD be going? :confused:

And, so you can make up anything you want with no evidence to support it and believe anything you see on the internet no questions asked and WE'RE the trusters?

Irrational ideologues are cute as hell.
 
I've been away, but I skimmed the last few weeks' worth. That computer program thing was awesome. Why was I not surprised that an IBM systems analyst misspelled "its." That's always the tell. NWO must sneak that in when they hack into truther web browsers.

Clayton Moore now suggests that wire and detonators could be "proofed against fire and impact" - that's special too. How would you "proof" a length of wire from a 767 flying into it at 500mph? Go to the Wile E. Coyote Acme store and buy you some jet-proofing, that's how.
 
carlitos said:
I've been away, but I skimmed the last few weeks' worth. That computer program thing was awesome. Why was I not surprised that an IBM systems analyst misspelled "its." That's always the tell. NWO must sneak that in when they hack into truther web browsers.

Clayton Moore now suggests that wire and detonators could be "proofed against fire and impact" - that's special too. How would you "proof" a length of wire from a 767 flying into it at 500mph? Go to the Wile E. Coyote Acme store and buy you some jet-proofing, that's how.
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Skim again. I didn't say that.


IBM systems analyst?
 
Oh sorry - programmer. Because that's the important detail in your fantasy. :rolleyes:

Clayton Moore said:
In no special order 2 goals, based on the result, had to be attained.

Total collapse of each tower.

Total destruction of each floor and it's contents.

Two types of destruction occurred in a synchronized fashion.

The support columns had to be disabled to keep the buildings basically within their footprints when they collapsed.

Each floor and its contents were completely destroyed with some type of explosive, as evidenced by the 1/4 inch body part remains, which caused the ejections and eliminated the pancaking that would be expected in a collapse.
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There you go. 9/11 figured out by former IBM systems programmer in 100 words or less.
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