In a thread about Barack Obama writing the wrong date in a guestbook, BeAChooser asserted that:
Ladewig replied by asking:
I think that's a very good question. It's exactly the kind of question that people interested in applying skepticism to areas such as politics should be addressing.
Since lengthy discussion of whether Barack Obama has been called our smartest president ever, and by whom, would be off-topic for the strangely-titled thread in which it now resides, I'm starting this new thread in which that can be addressed.
There are actually 2 broad questions which are the intended topic of this thread.
The first is: who exactly is it who has said that Obama is 'the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office'? (Is it one person, or many? Is it someone we've heard of? When and where did they say it?)
Going by past performance, I am guessing that BAC has not really heard people calling Barack Obama the smartest guy ever to sit in the Oval Office. I suspect what he has actually heard is people claiming that people are calling Barack Obama the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office.
In the past, various right-wing humorists have referred to Barack Obama as "the Messiah" and "The Anointed One" -- part of a running gag in which they pretend that people on the left actually look upon and refer to Obama that way. A number of their listeners have actually fallen for the joke. My guess is that this is something similar.
So the second question I hope this thread can address is: where does the idea that people have been calling Barack Obama 'the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office' actually come from? Are there really a significant number of people out there who are saying Barack Obama is our smartest president ever -- or is it instead that there are some people out there who are claiming this is being said a lot, and other people listening to them who are too gullible to bother checking the claim out?
... we've been told over and over and over he's the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office...
Ladewig replied by asking:
We have?
I am a liberal and I have never heard my liberal friends describe him in terms anywhere close to that. I have also never read a news story saying that.
If any respectable news source has said that, could you cite it?
I think that's a very good question. It's exactly the kind of question that people interested in applying skepticism to areas such as politics should be addressing.
Since lengthy discussion of whether Barack Obama has been called our smartest president ever, and by whom, would be off-topic for the strangely-titled thread in which it now resides, I'm starting this new thread in which that can be addressed.
There are actually 2 broad questions which are the intended topic of this thread.
The first is: who exactly is it who has said that Obama is 'the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office'? (Is it one person, or many? Is it someone we've heard of? When and where did they say it?)
Going by past performance, I am guessing that BAC has not really heard people calling Barack Obama the smartest guy ever to sit in the Oval Office. I suspect what he has actually heard is people claiming that people are calling Barack Obama the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office.
In the past, various right-wing humorists have referred to Barack Obama as "the Messiah" and "The Anointed One" -- part of a running gag in which they pretend that people on the left actually look upon and refer to Obama that way. A number of their listeners have actually fallen for the joke. My guess is that this is something similar.
So the second question I hope this thread can address is: where does the idea that people have been calling Barack Obama 'the smartest guy to ever sit in the Oval Office' actually come from? Are there really a significant number of people out there who are saying Barack Obama is our smartest president ever -- or is it instead that there are some people out there who are claiming this is being said a lot, and other people listening to them who are too gullible to bother checking the claim out?

