Paul McCartney is Aleister Crowley.

[wollclark]

I'm sure some of you who are familiar with the "Paul is Dead" conspiracy, may be familiar with a user named "iamaphoney".

If not, "iamaphoney" is famous on the internet because he has released many in depth videos about the theory. His main video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsPCQ932vlU) is a movie entitled "The Winged Beatle", named after the Crowley poem compilation entitled "The Winged Beetle". I'm going to list a few things I've noticed and researched from this movie and tell you what I think it means.

1. The video continuously flashes seemingly obscure pictures between scenes, but after slowing the pictures down I discovered they're mainly pictures relating to Thelema and Aleister Crowley.

2. A quote from Aleister Crowley's book "Magick" is mentioned at 18 min. and 6 sec. that gives validity to backmasking.

3. There's one moment (at 18 min. and 55 sec. in the YouTube link) where an overlay is displayed of a young Paul and a young Aleister, they look quite similar, if not exactly the same.

4. The "Love" code mentioned around 52 min. and 37 sec. contains the symbol of a bird in the "O". A similar bird is found here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/OTOlogo.png This bird is also flashed many times throughout the movie.

5. The mirrored text AREERA, or ARE3RA is displayed often in this. I found, through a Google translation, so it's not confirmed, that "Are Era" means "Ares (the God of War) was".

6. I believe "iamaphoney" is supposed to mean "lamaphoney" or "Lamaphoney". Lam is supposedly an alien-like figure invoked by Crowley in 1918.

"LAM is the Tibetan word for Way or Path, and LAMA is He who Goeth..." - Aleister Crowley

Its picture is also flashed often in the video: http://www.boudillion.com/lam/Lam.jpg

7. This is an add-on to five and six, another name for the Lam being is "Aiwass"
http://drbristol.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/paul-mccartney-i-was.jpg

I think the movie is implying that when Paul was killed, the replacement was a reincarnated Aleister Crowley, or the soul of Crowley was somehow transferred to the replacement. Something akin to McCartney being Crowley and vice versa.

Crowley was called "the Beast". The video implies that the truth will be revealed in 2012. Though the implications are already there, videos outside of iamaphoney's channel have flashed images of the Mayan calendar. Whether they come from his other productions, I can't say. On the official site he demands a donation of $6.66 through PayPal to see his unreleased movies.

On one hand, a lot of this theory holds up to me, but I'm gullible. On the other, $6.66 is hokey and makes it seem like a money scam.

What do you think?

 

[calebprime]

Ok, I'm slightly curious: What part of this theory "holds up" to you?


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[wollclark]

Ok, I'm slightly curious: What part of this theory "holds up" to you?

Paul and the rest of the band were very interested in Aleister Crowley. I know a lot of you like to call backmasking bunkum but Crowley talked about backmasking in his books.

“Let him train himself to think BACKWARDS by external means, as set forth here following:

(a) Let him learn to write BACKWARDS. . .
(b) Let him learn to walk BACKWARDS. . .
(c) Let him. . . listen to phonograph records REVERSED.
(d) Let him practice speaking BACKWARDS. . .
(e) Let him learn to read BACKWARDS. . .
(f) Instead of saying “I am he” let him say “eh ma I”

I Am the Walrus was inspired by Lewis Carrol and the poem Jabberwocky.

"It was like this, 'YKCOWREBBAJ sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT‘ ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA'

She puzzled over this for some time, but at last a bright thought struck her. ‘Why, it’s a Looking-glass book, of course! And if I hold it up to a glass, the words will all go the right way again.” This was the poem that Alice read. JABBERWOCKY ‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome raths outgrabe."

The clues aren't complete nonsense when you look at The Beatles' inspirations.

 

[calebprime]

By this point (1967), McCartney and Lennon weren't working closely together, and I am the Walrus is by Lennon, not McCartney.

The strange music that the Beatles produced around this time can be credited to Lennon and his experiences with LSD, his interest in the musical avant-garde (Stockhausen, etc.) and his situation. He was a rich, powerful guy, with engineers at his beck and call, ready to translate his every whim into music.

But I'm not sure if you're making a claim, or if the video you mention is making a claim.

Audio pareidolia -- fun stuff.


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[wollclark]

But I'm not sure if you're making a claim, or if the video you mention is making a claim.

I'm making a claim based on the images and clues given and researching them. This is what I think the video is implying. Paul is dead and the replacement has something to do with Aleister Crowley and the Beatles interest in him.

The strange music that the Beatles produced around this time can be credited to Lennon and his experiences with LSD, his interest in the musical avant-garde (Stockhausen, etc.) and his situation. He was a rich, powerful guy, with engineers at his beck and call, ready to translate his every whim into music.

Lennon wasn't the only one contributing, most songs were credited with "Lennon/McCartney". After all, the Magical Mystery Tour movie was Paul's idea. Use of LSD does not discredit backmasking, nor does pareidolia. There are many Paul interviews where he talks about ambigrams, anagrams and various other text coding.

 

[calebprime]

I'm making a claim based on the images and clues given and researching them. This is what I think the video is implying. Paul is dead and the replacement has something to do with Aleister Crowley and the Beatles interest in him.



Lennon wasn't the only one contributing, most songs were credited with "Lennon/McCartney". After all, the Magical Mystery Tour movie was Paul's idea. Use of LSD does not discredit backmasking.

No, by that point, it's fairly clear who was writing what -- they had distinct compositional styles and voices. I'm just saying that Paul never went in for the avant-garde stuff. The dual credit was just a legal arrangement -- that held for all their songs, no matter who worked on what.

And, speaking of voices, Paul had a very distinctive singing voice. Somehow, the replacement for dead Paul sings just like the guy who wrote Yesterday. It's a remarkable achievement -- to get a replacement who sounds, looks, and acts the same, who even has the convincing ability to speak of his (Paul's) early memories. He even has the same strengths and weaknesses as a composer. Amazing.

 

[Scott Sommers]

...backmasking.

This is simply the coolest idea ever - playing words backward controls you. Would this mean I could speak backward and it would effect - indeed control - you? Or do we have to play music in the background for it to work? I saw a video once that said it only works when the record or CD is consecrated at some sort of Satanic temple. Would that mean that indie labels with back masking don't control you?

This is so interesting, maybe we should open a new thread for it. But is 'backmasking' really a conspiracy topic? which forum should it go in? Ohhhh....I'm so confused by everything.

 

[wollclark]

No, by that point, it's fairly clear who was writing what -- they had distinct compositional styles and voices. I'm just saying that Paul never went in for the avant-garde stuff.

"During the 1960s, McCartney was often seen at major cultural events, such as the launch party for the International Times and at The Roundhouse (28 January and 4 February 1967 respectively).[66] He also delved into the visual arts, becoming a close friend of leading art dealers and gallery owners, explored experimental film, and regularly attended movie, theatrical and classical music performances. His first contact with the London avant-garde scene was through John Dunbar, who introduced him to the art dealer Robert Fraser, who in turn introduced McCartney to an array of writers and artists. McCartney later became involved in the renovation and publicising of the Indica Gallery in Mason's Yard, London—John Lennon first met Yoko Ono at the Indica.[67] [68] The Indica Gallery brought McCartney into contact with Barry Miles, whose underground newspaper, the International Times, McCartney helped to start."

Paul also went by alias "Ian Iachimoe", which is what Paul McCartney being said in reverse sounds like.

 

[jargon buster]

Satan and Crowley, the breaker of stereo needles.

 

[Maja]

I clicked on this thread because the conspiracy theory in the title sounded inoffensive and fun to read about, but I'm confused by the OP. Wollclark, you haven't actually mentioned anything from the life and work of either Crowley or McCartney that makes you believe this, except for the backmasking and the two of them looking somewhat similar when they were young (which is irrelevant if the young Paul is, according to this CT, the real one, who is supposed to have died and been replaced by Crowley.)

5. The mirrored text AREERA, or ARE3RA is displayed often in this. I found, through a Google translation, so it's not confirmed, that "Are Era" means "Ares (the God of War) was".

In what language is it supposed to mean that? "Era" means "was" in Italian, but the name of the God of War in Italian is Marte, from the Latin Mars. Ares is this god's Greek name, and as far as I know he is not called "Are" in any language.
But even if "Are Era" really meant "Ares was", what would that have to do with Paul McCartney being Alistair Crowley?

6. I believe "iamaphoney" is supposed to mean "lamaphoney" or "Lamaphoney". Lam is supposedly an alien-like figure invoked by Crowley in 1918.

Why would you search for a hidden meaning for this person's username, when the obvious meaning is "I am a phoney"? And again, if this YouTube user really had used the Tibetan word for "path" in his username, how would that give credibility to his theories?

 

[calebprime]

When I say "went in for" I mean composed.

None of this stuff is worth taking seriously even for a moment, but, you can't claim that McCartney was interested in the compositional style of I am the Walrus. That kind of style was clearly John Lennon's.

Since they weren't really working that closely together at that point, like they were at the beginning, it's a stretch to say that I am the Walrus has much to do with McCartney.

There's no arguing with a mind bent on finding spurious connections, so I'll bow out.

What I can contribute here is knowledge of music theory, composition, and some familiarity with the work of the Beatles.

Why does this interest you, given that it's pretty obvious that the very same McCartney is very much alive?

"During the 1960s, McCartney was often seen at major cultural events, such as the launch party for the International Times and at The Roundhouse (28 January and 4 February 1967 respectively).[66] He also delved into the visual arts, becoming a close friend of leading art dealers and gallery owners, explored experimental film, and regularly attended movie, theatrical and classical music performances. His first contact with the London avant-garde scene was through John Dunbar, who introduced him to the art dealer Robert Fraser, who in turn introduced McCartney to an array of writers and artists. McCartney later became involved in the renovation and publicising of the Indica Gallery in Mason's Yard, London—John Lennon first met Yoko Ono at the Indica.[67] [68] The Indica Gallery brought McCartney into contact with Barry Miles, whose underground newspaper, the International Times, McCartney helped to start."

Paul also went by alias "Ian Iachimoe", which is what Paul McCartney being said in reverse sounds like.

 

[wollclark]

I clicked on this thread because the conspiracy theory in the title sounded inoffensive and fun to read about, but I'm confused by the OP. Wollclark, you haven't actually mentioned anything from the life and work of either Crowley or McCartney that makes you believe this, except for the backmasking and the two of them looking somewhat similar when they were young (which is irrelevant if the young Paul is, according to this CT, the real one, who is supposed to have died and been replaced by Crowley.)

As I said in the OP, I'm a bit gullible. The symbolism and hidden codes seem to be validated (to me) because some of their influences use the same codes. Crowley called himself the beast, as in Anti-Christ. I grew up southern Baptist in the states, so maybe the fear of Satan is still in the back of my mind.

In what language is it supposed to mean that? "Era" means "was" in Italian, but the name of the God of War in Italian is Marte, from the Latin Mars. Ares is this god's Greek name, and as far as I know he is not called "Are" in any language.
But even if "Are Era" really meant "Ares was", what would that have to do with Paul McCartney being Alistair Crowley?

I said in the OP that it wasn't confirmed, I just used a Google translator.

Why would you search for a hidden meaning for this person's username, when the obvious meaning is "I am a phoney"? And again, if this YouTube user really had used the Tibetan word for "path" in his username, how would that give credibility to his theories?

I put that up more for the fact that it goes along with what I'm theorizing, I found that "Lam" quote on accident by mistyping his name in Google. I guess it's confirmation bias, really.

 

[wollclark]

Why does this interest you, given that it's pretty obvious that the very same McCartney is very much alive?

I assume it's obvious if you don't look for the clues, which is confirmation bias, but still I feel like *something's* there. It interests me because of its tie ins with 2012 and "the Beast".

 

[calebprime]

I've thought of a way to get you to think about which of the Beatles contributed what kinds of things. You don't have to have an ear for composition, or a knowledge of technique.



-Find one song by the Beatles sung by Paul in the style of I Am the Walrus. (And no, I don't mean the section of A Day in a Life contributed by Paul -- he sings it, and it's his style.)

-Find one composition written by Paul during the Beatles or after the Beatles that uses tape collage or anything really avant-garde (as in Revolution #9, I am the Walrus, Tomorrow Never Knows) -- these are all basically Lennon's style around this time. It's not enough that McCartney plays on a track, or contributes some found sound or tape snippets.

-Find some significant involvement of McCartney with making avant-garde art (including music) after the Beatles. Lennon, by contrast, was later married to Yoko Ono, an avant-garde artist to this day.


Now, even having accomplished that, you'd only have proven that there was some mutual influence, not that avant-garde music was really Paul's thing. That would require more.

And then, even if you could demonstrate that, you'd still need to show that the current Paul is somehow a different person (in the usual sense of identity, the common-sense one) than the original member of the Beatles.

 

[calebprime]

I assume it's obvious if you don't look for the clues, which is confirmation bias, but still I feel like *something's* there. It interests me because of its tie ins with 2012 and "the Beast".

You haven't addressed the single strongest thing here -- that it's very clear to a musician like me that the same man who is "pretending" to be Paul McCartney now is the same man who was "pretending" to be Paul McCartney back in the day.

One doesn't need to look for clues to see that the basic idea is a non-starter.

McCartney is very much alive.

 

[Maja]

As I said in the OP, I'm a bit gullible. The symbolism and hidden codes seem to be validated (to me) because some of their influences use the same codes. Crowley called himself the beast, as in Anti-Christ. I grew up southern Baptist in the states, so maybe the fear of Satan is still in the back of my mind.

I can understand that, and I also understand that a subject can be frightening and fascinating at the same time. But most of the symbolism and codes you mentioned in your OP didn't come from either Crowley's or McCartney's work at all -- they were just shown briefly in this YouTube video. Why would that be significant?

I said in the OP that it wasn't confirmed, I just used a Google translator.

I understood that, but it doesn't change my question:

But even if "Are Era" really meant "Ares was", what would that have to do with Paul McCartney being Alistair Crowley?

ETA: Crowley died in 1947, five years after McCartney was born. Even if you believe that the McCartney we know today is an impostor, he would have to be around the same age as the real one.

 

[wollclark]

You haven't addressed the single strongest thing here -- that it's very clear to a musician like me that the same man who is "pretending" to be Paul McCartney now is the same man who was "pretending" to be Paul McCartney back in the day.

One doesn't need to look for clues to see that the basic idea is a non-starter.

McCartney is very much alive.

But what about these comparison photos? http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/fc1.html

Especially the height difference between these two:
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/uk_images/janewpaul.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/jamespaul/uk_images/janewfaul.jpg

 

[wollclark]

I can understand that, and I also understand that a subject can be frightening and fascinating at the same time. But most of the symbolism and codes you mentioned in your OP didn't come from either Crowley's or McCartney's work at all -- they were just shown briefly in this YouTube video. Why would that be significant?

The image of Aiwass or Lam is a sketch drawn by Crowley, the "I WAS" picture was taken from the Magical Mystery Tour movie, and album booklet. The bird is taken from the Lamen of Thelema which was founded by Crowley.

I understood that, but it doesn't change my question:


ETA: Crowley died in 1947, five years after McCartney was born. Even if you believe that the McCartney we know today is an impostor, he would have to be around the same age as the real one.

You're right, but I was thinking more of a spiritual thing. The man who replaced Paul looks similar, if Crowley did indeed invoke this being (by sexual ritual) then perhaps Paul is Lam, the son of Osiris. The son of Osiris is also known as "The Fool".

The Fool on the Hill

 

[Scott Sommers]

So I'm watching iamaphoney's video and aside from pointing to some sort of compulsive problem, it does not appear to me to be entirely correct.

At 29:17, the video states that' "The jury in his trial found that he had brainwashed 4 people..." The jury found nothing of the sort. The jury found Mason guilty of murder and conspiracy. I am a PhD candidate in Educational Psychology and I have no idea what brainwashing means much less how Charles Manson could have done it.

At 29:48, there's a clip of a conversation from the 2004 film Helter Skelter where it's stated that, "Charlie got all his beliefs from two places: the Bible and the Beatles." However, Manson himself in a 1961 arrest stated that his religion was Scientology. There is a vast literature on Charles Manson and I am familiar with only bits of this, but the idea that of linking Manson and the Beatles like this is bizarre and certainly not located in fact. But this is what you get when you rely on clips from Hollywood films as your reference sources.

By the time I got to 38:20 and it was telling me about pictures hidden in album covers and secret numbers everywhere, I'd had it. Clip after clip of the Beatles denying the rumor is supposed to leave us believing something sinister is afoot, but all it does is remind me of Jammonious showing us clips of planes crashing in to WTC buildings as proof that no planes hit the towers.

I made it to about 45 minutes, but that's all I could do. However, as one of the Youtube comments said, it certainly was entertaining...not much to believe there, but it was pretty cool to listen to.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Paul also went by alias "Ian Iachimoe", which is what Paul McCartney being said in reverse sounds like.

How could "Yentraccm Luap" sound anything like "Ian Iachimoe"?

And are you seriously suggesting that these two people look anything alike?