Herman Cain for President?

Neally said:
More like they voted for the candidate that was the most not Bush. If the economy doesn't pick up significantly between now and the election, and the GOP doesn't end up with an idiot, Obama will be a one term wonder.
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Well, yeah.

Karl Rove questions Cain's ability to get things done in the Washington environment. It's both a practical and a pertinent question, but troubling to think that someone who was expert at business might not succeed in Washington.

Implying we need...."professional politicians"... with all that that implies.
 
thaiboxerken said:
No. Obama will be re-elected, he will only lose, maybe, if the economy gets worse. The GOP knows this, that's why so many presidential hopefuls on the Right are running scared.
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I think they know they inherit the bad economy yet to come, from the crude bunglings of obamanomics.

There's another Repub sweep expected at the grass roots level, they take the Senate supposedly. A lot of people vote party ticket, in this case that shrinks the incumbent's advantage.

Lots of harsh economic medicine for people to take, some of it is due to Obama and some is not, some has built up over several decades.

Intrade.com lists Obama to win at 61%, but I don't view the number of bids as statistically valid at this time and likely for some months that remains true.
 
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mhaze said:
The problem with this thinking is that nobody voted for Obama. They voted for a manufactured image of a candidate. Now people know the sour attitude, thin skin and shallow thinking of the actual person, whom quite unfortunately for the country has not grown into the job.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Shallow thinking? Thin skin? huh?
 
I Am The Scum said:
As far as I can see, you got two options. Which most accurately describes Mhaze's thought process?

1. Making up criticisms of a candidate, attacking the people who didn't make those criticisms for making those criticisms (when it was actually you all along), chastising these same people for not sticking to the issues, even though they have made substantive points, and you have not, and refusing to respond on said points.

2. Trolling.
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indeed.
 
Juniversal said:
I really don't think any measurable number of black voters would vote for Cain "just because he's black". Certainly not enough to split the vote. After all Obama's wasn't the first to run but the one with broadest appeal. You'll find most who voted for him thought he was the best candidate.
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If the Republican candidate for President defeats Obama, it will be by the slimmest of margins, so each fraction of a percent plays a role.

I was not suggesting that most of-(or even a very large minority of) -black voters voted for Obama because he is black, however, for a minority of black voters race was certainly the primary motivating factor (just as it was for a minority of white voters)

By running a black candidate, the Republicans might hope to draw a portion of those voters, or even nullify them altogether (if both candidates are black,and race is what motivates one to vote, why bother since it will be a black president either way)

My earlier point, however, is that this kind of cynical attempt at racial politics would be too transparent if attempted by the Republicans, and would cost them more undecided voters (not to mention the voters they would lose within their base) than it would gain them in the other column.

Enough Republicans see that, to make a black Republican candidate highly unlikely.
 
Distracted1 said:
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By running a black candidate, the Republicans might hope to draw a portion of those voters, or even nullify them altogether (if both candidates are black,and race is what motivates one to vote, why bother since it will be a black president either way)
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No way that primary voters are thinking this many moves ahead. They vote for who they want as president, plain and simple. For some of them, it will be Cain. Afterall, he delivered something in that SC debate that tickled the fancy of Luntz's focus group. But, will it be enough? He ain't Establishment, and that's who gets nominated by Republicans historically.
 
mortimer said:
How can they not? Who, in the list of possible candidates, could possibly beat Obama, barring some catastrophe, like a major terrorist attack or economic collapse?
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The same could have been said in the last election with Hillary leading in the early stages. Look how it turned out- a community activist, lecturer, limited experience senator becomes president. Both Cain and Romney could do the same, as I said if the economy continues to stall.
 
hgc said:
No way that primary voters are thinking this many moves ahead. They vote for who they want as president, plain and simple. For some of them, it will be Cain. Afterall, he delivered something in that SC debate that tickled the fancy of Luntz's focus group. But, will it be enough? He ain't Establishment, and that's who gets nominated by Republicans historically.
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I disagree. The focus of primary voters- (at least in states without open primaries )- seems to me to be the "electability" of their partys' nominee. Which is how McCain got the nod last time, in spite of strong ideological reservations on the part of many Republicans.
 
Distracted1 said:
I disagree. The focus of primary voters- (at least in states without open primaries )- seems to me to be the "electability" of their partys' nominee. Which is how McCain got the nod last time, in spite of strong ideological reservations on the part of many Republicans.
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That seems to be the case, however, in the early primaries like Iowa and New Hampshire, anything goes. Then the voters step back and have a look where they're going and say, "Whoa, we'd better not go too far down Crazy Lane. It seemed to me that in 2008, GOP people voted for whoever they liked in early primaries, but when it looked like that might make Huckabee their candidate, they retreated to the middle and John McCain.
 
Initial analysis reveals large quantities of dried stalks of cereal plants. Possibly Triticum boeoticum or Triticum durum.
 
Speaking of Crazy Lane, let's see what Tea Party darling Herman Cain has in mind for his presidency:

Herman Cain said:
Engage the people. Don’t try to pass a 2,700 page bill — and even they didn’t read it! You and I didn't have time to read it. We’re too busy trying to live — send our kids to school. That's why I am only going to allow small bills — three pages. You’ll have time to read that one over the dinner table.
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Most bills are hundreds or thousands of pages long. Herman's pretty much admitting that he hasn't got the patience to read that much.

Oh, and the immigrant problem? Electric fences and (really) alligators.
Herman Cain said:
Now, my fence might be part Great Wall and part electrical technology. . . . Put me in charge of the fence and it will be a twenty foot wall, barbed wire, electrified on the top. And on this side of the fence, I’d have that moat that President Obama talked about. And I would put those alligators in that moat!
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Bad enough he's stealing ideas from the Commies, but if he had a lick of sense, he'd know that alligators are practically no danger to adult humans.

Boy, the GOP sure knows how to pick 'em.
 
Tricky said:
Speaking of Crazy Lane, let's see what Tea Party darling Herman Cain has in mind for his presidency:


Most bills are hundreds or thousands of pages long. Herman's pretty much admitting that he hasn't got the patience to read that much.

Oh, and the immigrant problem? Electric fences and (really) alligators.

Bad enough he's stealing ideas from the Commies, but if he had a lick of sense, he'd know that alligators are practically no danger to adult humans.

Boy, the GOP sure knows how to pick 'em.
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Well, at least he's not boring. :)
 
Puppycow said:
I think what he's saying is that all problems shall have simple solutions.
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He's a simpleton.

So is anyone seriously fronting him. Didn't the GOP experience with Alan Keyes teach them anything about the marketability of crazy surly black guys?
 
Tricky said:
Speaking of Crazy Lane, let's see what Tea Party darling Herman Cain has in mind for his presidency:

Herman Cain said:
Engage the people. Don’t try to pass a 2,700 page bill — and even they didn’t read it! You and I didn't have time to read it. We’re too busy trying to live — send our kids to school. That's why I am only going to allow small bills — three pages. You’ll have time to read that one over the dinner table.
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Most bills are hundreds or thousands of pages long. Herman's pretty much admitting that he hasn't got the patience to read that much.
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So Herman Cain's veto policy is literally "tl;dr"
 
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