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How to End Atheism . . .

ynot said:
What is your "good" definition?
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What is your "good' definition of theism?

Is it this: Theism isn’t "a lack of belief in no god”, it’s a lack of acceptance of atheists belief in no god?
 
ynot said:
No - Atheism is the non-acceptance/rejection of the beliefs and claims of Theists. Given these beliefs and claims aren‘t supported by a single piece of credible evidence there‘s absolutely nothing for Atheists to “lack belief in“ other than the beliefs and claims.
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Well, by "end theism" do you mean "prove that no gods exist so thoroughly that no one bothers to believe in any of them anymore" or do you mean "entirely remove the concept of gods from the minds of humans so that the thought "a god may exist" can no longer be considered or articulated"?

If the former, and people are still aware that theism once existed, then I'd say that "atheist" still describes them. As far as I know, no one holds that dolphins are gray because the water elves ran out of yellow paint, but I can consider the concept well enough to declare that I am not one of those people.

If the very concept of a belief in deities is gone (not just the belief itself), it indeed makes no sense to talk about its opposite. I'm not sure what one could do to the human mind to make such a thing happen, and I would probably not care to undergo the process myself. (I am reminded of a Stanislaw Lem story where an alien society builds a computer to rule them and establish perfect order, which it achieves by turning them all into shiny inanimate disks which it lays out in pretty patterns.)

As to your condition #1 - I don't think that would kill atheism by a long shot. There are fundies at both ends of the spectrum, and I'm sure that some who profess atheism would cling to their lack of faith as the limpet hugs the rock, even were Maha Kali to paddle their fannies with ten ping pong paddles.
 
Oh wait!! I understand the game now!!!

How to end theism:

(1) Prove that god exists.

(2) Since theism is a belief in god, once god is proved there is no need to believe in anything because a god would be proof of science. Therefore any god would be nothing supernatural nor magical nor miraculous.

(3) Profit.

(See? I didn't even need that "?" from South Park. :D )
 
ynot said:
The belief that a god or gods have actual existence.


No - Theism isn’t a response to Atheism. Atheism is purely a response to Theism
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Wait.

If that is true, why are children taught to learn about a god, most likely a god that the parents believe in?
 
JFrankA said:
Wait.

If that is true, why are children taught to learn about a god, most likely a god that the parents believe in?
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Atheism is the absence of belief in a deity.

The whole thing about rejection is what's known as antitheism (not only does one not believe that there is a deity, but one also doesn't like the idea that a deity might exist)

Cheers
 
Is a deity a product of theism, or can there be a deity no one believes in?

If deities are products of theism, and there is no longer theism, then athiesm can't exist because there wouldn't be any deities to hold a lack of belief in.
 
ynot said:
(1) Provide at least one piece of credible evidence to support the theistic claim that a god exists.

Or . . .

(2) End Theism.
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The *concept* of gods still exists. Therefore even if all theist dropped dead or get raptured or reincarnated and only atheist were left , the atheist would still stay as a concept. ANd still disbelieve gods.

You would have to make all theist disappear, scrub the concept of gods in all way and shape from our society and dictionary. Good luck with that.
 
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ynot said:
(1) Provide at least one piece of credible evidence to support the theistic claim that a god exists.

Or . . .

(2) End Theism.
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Er... if one piece of credible evidence was enough to support anything, we wouldn't have truthers, birthers, etc.
 
ynot said:
Atheism only exists as a response to Theism.

Ending Theism would also end Atheism.
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No. Without theism, atheism would be universal, not ended.
Atheism is simply not believing in gods. It is independent of belief in gods.
 
kerikiwi said:
No. Without theism, atheism would be universal, not ended.
Atheism is simply not believing in gods. It is independent of belief in gods.
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As the word Atheism is derived from the word theism I don't accept that it's simply not believing in gods. Atheism by definition is a response to theism. Atheism is not independent of belief in gods, it's a direct rejection of the validity of belief in gods. Believing in gods or not isn't a choice Atheist have to or can make as it's a complete non-issue. Not having a belief in gods is being a Realist not an Atheist.
 
ynot said:
As the word Atheism is derived from the word theism I don't accept that it's simply not believing in gods. Atheism by definition is a response to theism. Atheism is not independent of belief in gods, it's a direct rejection of the validity of belief in gods. Believing in gods or not isn't a choice Atheist have to or can make as it's a complete non-issue. Not having a belief in gods is being a Realist not an Atheist.
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Does the rest of your personal dictionary have similar material in it?
 
ynot said:
(1) Provide at least one piece of credible evidence to support the theistic claim that a god exists.

Or . . .

(2) End Theism.
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Ending theism is a miracle that only God can perform. That's the Catch 22.

Since atheism is a minor religion with a negligible effect on the global systems of belief, the theists will not provide anything suggested in (1).

If the salvation of critical thought actually worked, as the atheists believe it does, your OP wouldn't materialize.
 
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If God was there and didn't want Atheism to exist then he could make it happen with a mere thought. If there is a God, and there isn't, then the Atheists are doing his work just as much as the Christians and the Muslims and the Jews.
 
epix said:
Ending theism is a miracle that only God can perform. That's the Catch 22.

Since atheism is a minor religion with a negligible effect on the global systems of belief, the theists will not provide anything suggested in (1).

If the salvation of critical thought actually worked, as the atheists believe it does, your OP wouldn't materialize.
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you are addicted to not taking drugs.
 
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