Gawdzilla Sama
121.92-meter mutant fire-breathing lizard-thingy
No theism, no atheism. So cut the adoration of the Great Sky Fairy and we'll all be rational people. Rational-ish, anyway.
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Piscivore
Smelling fishy
Naw, we'd just invent all new ways of being stupid and emotional.
But we wouldn’t have to call those that were exercising those new ways of being stupid and emotional “Theists“. And those that didn't accept the claims of those that were exercising those new ways of being stupid and emotional wouldn’t have to be called “Atheists“.
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Lothian
should be banned
New Zealand's rugby world cup record.
Lothian
should be banned
Different? You mean there are othersSorry but rugby is a completely different religion.
Different? You mean there are others
Apparently there are thousands. And every one is the “correct” one.
John Jones
Penultimate Amazing
America Professional Football.
I can offer evidence that it exists. Even some atheists worship at the altar of Vince Lombardi!
I can offer evidence that it exists. Even some atheists worship at the altar of Vince Lombardi!
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Gawdzilla Sama
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Lothian already said the R word.
Seismosaurus
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2) would make atheism universal, not end it.
Atheism is the non-acceptance/rejection of theistic claims. You can’t reject claims that aren’t being made. Theism and Atheism would become purely historic.
Seismosaurus
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No, it's a lack of theism, a lack of belief in god. If theism becomes historic, then atheism becomes the norm.
No - Atheism is the non-acceptance/rejection of the beliefs and claims of Theists. Given these beliefs and claims aren‘t supported by a single piece of credible evidence there‘s absolutely nothing for Atheists to “lack belief in“ other than the beliefs and claims.
ETA - Atheism isn’t "a lack of belief in god”, it’s a lack of acceptance of Theists belief in a god.
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JFrankA
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You have a very bad definition of atheism.
See, by your logic, theism is the non-acceptance/rejection of the beliefs and claims of atheists. Given these beliefs and claims aren't supported by a single piece of credible evidence, there's absolutely nothing for theists to "lack belief in" other than the beliefs and claims.
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What is your "good" definition?
Merriam-Webster: "a disbelief in the existence of deity"
Oxford: "disbelief in the existence of God or gods"
American Heritage: "the doctrine or belief that there is no god"
Ray Brady: "I don't believe in gods, therefore I'm an atheist"
Oxford: "disbelief in the existence of God or gods"
American Heritage: "the doctrine or belief that there is no god"
Ray Brady: "I don't believe in gods, therefore I'm an atheist"