The Truth Movement: Finally, Lost in Space

Dave Rogers said:
Lie.



Lie.



Lie.



Lie.

When it comes to defending yourself against the charge of being a serial liar, you're not doing too impressively here.

Dave
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How can one claim LIHOP while at the same time believing the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed at Reagan? While making it happen they let it happen? I just don't get it.
 
aggle-rithm said:
By whom? The authorities that aren't to be trusted?

The truth movement has raised enough money to conduct their own investigation. Why do truthers keep waiting for someone else to do it?
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If they did that, then they couldn't afford to go to Jamaica, New Zeland, Japan, etc to spread the truth! :rolleyes:
 
Justin39640 said:
How can one claim LIHOP while at the same time believing the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed at Reagan? While making it happen they let it happen? I just don't get it.
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They let themselves make it happen.

Or perhaps they made themselves let it happen.
 
CE,

If I were to hire a private investigator to look into the US government's involvement in 9/11, would you accept his findings?
 
aggle-rithm said:
By whom? The authorities that aren't to be trusted?

The truth movement has raised enough money to conduct their own investigation. Why do truthers keep waiting for someone else to do it?
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Well, the obvious answer would be: They're in on it.
 
Childlike Empress said:
We've poked so many holes in your "detailed hypothesis" that it is nothing more than a laughing stock, Mackey. The LIHOP part (protecting the patsys) is proven by now, the Pentagon deception is proven, the NIST pseudo-science is free-falling like a house of cards. As you well know.

Nobody must provide an alternative hypothesis. The unsolved crime has to be investigated properly and you have to stop this pathetic charade.
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You haven't poked any holes. All the truther crap was debunked years ago. Do you have anything new in your hypothesis?
 
aggle-rithm said:
By whom? The authorities that aren't to be trusted?

The truth movement has raised enough money to conduct their own investigation. Why do truthers keep waiting for someone else to do it?
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1 they would be incapable
2 they really enjoy being brave armchair warriors for da troof and feeling superior to us sheeple and shills.
3 nobody else is interested
 
aggle-rithm said:
CE,

If I were to hire a private investigator to look into the US government's involvement in 9/11, would you accept his findings?
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The men in black would be on his tail like a shot. The evil guv'ment has eyes and ears everywhere.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Why don't you tell me why it is important to you?
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I don't want to speak for everyone, but I assume I'm correct in saying that it is important because we think you're full of doodoo.

Seriously, CE, I've only been a part of JREF for a short time...but it's pretty significant that I've been here for nearly 10 months and I've never seen you provide anything sustantial that addresses why you think the OCTTM is incorrect.

Look at this from a side other than your own:

Let's say I came to the board telling everyone that I build a working lightsaber. That's pretty big stuff. Everyone would want to know how it works, how I made it, etc.

Now suppose that, instead of answering questions and discussing the science and mechanics of this bad ass device, I came back with simple-witted retorts and basically just called posters out...well...even you would be quick to dismiss me as being full of batcrap.

So why is it important to us that you show us your theory? Honestly, it isn't important to us. It should be important to you. Nobody takes you seriously because you claim to have a lightsaber and refuse to show it to anyone.
 
Sabretooth said:
Seriously, CE, I've only been a part of JREF for a short time...but it's pretty significant that I've been here for nearly 10 months and I've never seen you provide anything sustantial that addresses why you think the OCTTM is incorrect.
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I'm here since before this subforum was created, Sabretooth. I have participated in many threads on factual topics, and I know the players in this subforum inside out. Many of them don't deserve the slightest respect. The "tell us your theory" nonsense is an age old routine tactic here and done to everybody who dares to question even little aspects of the "OCT". And pretending that "nobody has done it before", in full knowledge that this is a lie, goes on to this day, as you have seen. They should know that it doesn't work with me, but they do it anyway because it's all they have and at least it makes people like you and dafydd think i'm running away from a genuine challenge. Same old, same old.

These days i'm mostly active in other parts of the forum and only come here to visit my old duhbunkie buddies when I see something interesting in the "new posts" list. In this thread I participate because Mackey had me fooled, too. And I really don't like getting fooled. He was my favorite debunker for some years.
 
R.Mackey said:
One Truther I actually respect was Sizzler, who understood the above. Long ago he promised to come up with a hypothesis, and he tried, and he ultimately admitted that he could not.
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That would be around the time he stopped posting here right? :D
 
Same with Java Man. We were promised a theory and got nothing.

Shame.
 
Childlike Empress said:
We've poked so many holes in your "detailed hypothesis" that it is nothing more than a laughing stock, Mackey. The LIHOP part (protecting the patsys) is proven by now, the Pentagon deception is proven, the NIST pseudo-science is free-falling like a house of cards. As you well know.

Nobody must provide an alternative hypothesis. The unsolved crime has to be investigated properly and you have to stop this pathetic charade.
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If you do not want people to call you on your lies you should not make posts like this.
 
Childlike Empress said:
The "tell us your theory" nonsense is an age old routine tactic here and done to everybody who dares to question even little aspects of the "OCT". And pretending that "nobody has done it before", in full knowledge that this is a lie, goes on to this day, as you have seen.
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More accurately, no smart truther, the type anyone might be tempted to take seriously, has offered a theory. The ones that have are instantly revealed as crackpots, because there is no remotely plausible explanation for an inside job that doesn't make huge assumptions and ignore/misinterpret evidence on a massive scale.

I mean, look at this:

The story is based on 2 broadly accepted postulates:

1) WTC was brought down by controlled demolition
2) The 'dancing Israelis' on the morning of 9/11 had foreknowledge of things to come
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How could anyone POSSIBLY take this seriously?
 
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