To all those who said a virtual fence is the answer …

[Zep]

LOL! So you think that tunnels are more difficult than flying over the fence would be?

Seriously, Gummo, learn to read and comprehend. I made no mention of any relative difficulties involved. I just made it clear that they will find many ways to get into the USA while ever there is money to be made.

Well if that's the case, why do they build tunnels at all now? Why not just fly?

They do, Gummo, they do. That's the point.

And you still haven't shown that the number crossing the border by either flying or tunnelling will amount to anything remotely close to the millions who now WALK across the border every year ... because there's no barrier.

Ninja Mexicans! They will bring...ladder! Or...boat!

Seriously, Gummo, you've lost this one. Here. Here's your fence.

 

[BeAChooser]

Originally Posted by BeAChooser
LOL! So you think that tunnels are more difficult than flying over the fence would be?

Seriously, Gummo, learn to read and comprehend. I made no mention of any relative difficulties involved.

Gee, Gummo, I distinctly recall responding to your claim that "flying the border" was "certainly" "quicker and easier than this:", followed by a link to a google search with keywords mexico+border+tunnels". Do "quicker and easier" have a different meaning in Australia, Zep? Like so many of the other words you've demonstrated you don't understand? Or is it just YOU, AGAIN.

 

[Zep]

Gee, Gummo, I distinctly recall responding to your claim that "flying the border" was "certainly" "quicker and easier than this:", followed by a link to a google search with keywords mexico+border+tunnels". Do "quicker and easier" have a different meaning in Australia, Zep? Like so many of the other words you've demonstrated you don't understand? Or is it just YOU, AGAIN.

I gave you two possible alternatives off the top of my head that already make your fence idea an expensive laugh. Others here have given you more, plus good reasons why. During your absence to la-la-land, we have discussed some realistic reasons and potential solutions.

So you're just floundering now, trying lamely to be insulting. It's like being savaged by a dead sheep,* whipped with a feather. You really haven't got the hang of this reality thing, have you.





*Thanks, John Cleese!

 

[BeAChooser]

 

[quadraginta]

I gave you two possible alternatives off the top of my head that already make your fence idea an expensive laugh. Others here have given you more, plus good reasons why. During your absence to la-la-land, we have discussed some realistic reasons and potential solutions.

So you're just floundering now, trying lamely to be insulting. It's like being savaged by a dead sheep,* whipped with a feather. You really haven't got the hang of this reality thing, have you.

As long as we don't get whipped with a dead sheep. That could be unpleasant on many levels.

*Thanks, John Cleese!

Agreed.

 

[BeAChooser]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/crime-part-life-america-and-border-secur

March 03, 2011

(CNSNews.com) -- When asked if it was necessary to seal the southwest border to combat transnational drug gangs, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Director John Morton did not directly answer but said the border is more secure now than in the last 20 years and that crime is part of life in the United States.

I think the ICE director is either lying or Stuck On Stupid. Maybe it's catching in the Obama administration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ealing-illegal-immigrant-crime-data-suggests/ "Border States Deal With More Illegal Immigrant Crime Than Most, Data Suggest"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/03/03/americas-war-texas-farmers-attack-mexican-border/ "America's Third War: Texas Farmers Under Attack at the Border"

 

[BeAChooser]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/border-patrol-chief-we-have-operational

The deputy commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection, David Aguilar, said that 1,100 miles – ‘give or take a couple of miles’ – of the U.S.-Mexico border is under operational control by his agency. For the remaining 800 to 900 miles, he said that 510 miles of the Marfa sector along the Texas border does not need the same degree of security as the sectors in urban areas.

Aguilar also said that the U.S.-Mexico border should not be sealed.

This assessment of the situtation is called Stuck On Stupid. It's definitely catching in the Obama administration.

And isn't it great that the Border Patrol Chief doesn't think we should close the border? Let me guess. He's Hispanic and a democrat.

 

[BeAChooser]

http://cnsnews.cloud.clearpathhosting.com/news/article/not-mile-border-secure-texas-sheriff-say

April 11, 2011

(CNSNews.com) – Texas Sheriff Tomas Herrera said he does not agree with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s assessment of security at the U.S.-Mexico border as being “better than it has ever been.”

Herrera, in a telephone interview with CNSNews.com, said that not “a mile” of the 85-mile stretch of border in Maverick County, Texas, which is separated from Mexico by the Rio Grande River, is secure and that the violence of Mexican drug cartels is spilling over into the United States as cartels come into Texas and kidnap teenagers for their smuggling operations.

 

[BeAChooser]

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-claims-he-s-done-all-gop-wanted-bo

May 10, 2011

(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama told a border crowd in Texas today that he had addressed the border security concerns of Republicans, and now was calling on GOP lawmakers to support his push to grant legal status to the nation’s estimated 12 million illegal aliens. … snip …

LIAR.

This is Obama's idea of border security:

http://www.cnsnews.com/image/border-fence-0

 

[BeAChooser]

{crickets}

 

[marplots]

{crickets}

Sometimes the bias is so thick, even the crickets don't have the energy to respond.

 

[BeAChooser]

Sometimes the bias is so thick

You're confusing bias with facts to which you apparently have no response.

And if you think Obama's statements are anything more than politically motivated, then your confusion borders on delusion.

 

[marplots]

Well, if I'm going to wade in, I should clarify what I thought you meant.

It looked like you were asserting that Obama thinks our border policy and fence should be, and is, a few posts in the middle of the desert. Is that what you really meant?

If it is, I think the flagrant hyperbole says more about your opinions than any facts on offer. See, the thing about facts is they come in bunches. So it's disingenuous to pick through the pile and find one you like while dumping the rest in the Rio Grande.

But maybe you weren't implying what I thought you were.

 

[fess]

We build fences, they build tunnels.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

We build fences, they build tunnels.

Who's going to be building those fences, anyway? I'll tell ya -- Mexican laborers. Hard working, intelligent laborers who are so in need of work they go to a foreign country and send money back home so their kids can eat and go to school.

Fencing across the border with Mexico is like solving global warming by outlawing sweaters.

 

[marplots]

Fencing across the border with Mexico is like solving global warming by outlawing sweaters.

I think it falls under the category of, "Here's a clear, easy to understand solution to your complex problem."

"Great. Will it work?"

"Well, maybe a little, but honestly? No."

"So why should I buy into it?"

"Did I mention it was a clear, simple solution?"

... remembers Head-On... apply directly to forehead.

 

[BeAChooser]

Fencing across the border with Mexico is like solving global warming by outlawing sweaters.

Right. Just ignore the facts in this thread that indicate otherwise. I know how democrats work. Repeat the lie as many times as it takes to become the truth.

 

[Corsair 115]

I know how democrats work. Repeat the lie as many times as it takes to become the truth.

Yep, just like those Republicans repeating the lie about Obama's birth certificate. See? Two can play at that game. Only it doesn't get anyone anywhere. The only winning move is not to play. How about a good game of chess?

 

[BeAChooser]

The only winning move is not to play

You make a good case for smaller government.

 

[excaza]

And if you think Obama's statements are anything more than politically motivated, then your confusion borders on delusion.

Politicians making politically motivated statements.


I am shocked.