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Clear evidence that 9/11 was an inside job

FatFreddy88 said:
There are plausible scenarios that would explain the light poles and the witnesses.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9632
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17179

Witnesses can be planted. That would have to be part of a plan this large.
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You are regurgitating lies already debunked. What do you have that is not debunked? Why do you spread idiotic lies? Why did you sign up in January and start posting lies today?


You failed to read the web site you posted, it offers zero to help your fantasy come true. Read before you post, try not to be so gullible.
 
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The evidence shows that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. Our not knowing what happened to the passengers doesn't make that evidence go away. There are a few plausible scenarios. We just don't know which one is the true one.

In this link there's a documentary called "Painful Deceptions".
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

It's also on YouTube.

In the last five minutes of part one a possible explanation for the passengers and the DNA is put forth.
 
So if your absolutely convinced it was an inside job, what is stopping you from kitting out, training yourself Taxi driver style , and at the very least taking a few of the culprits out, or kidnapping some low level people and getting the info that would prove it?

It seems to me one who is really convinced, would do something about it, not just sit around arguing on the internet. Otherwise it seems you treat the subject like most people treat things like the beginning of the universe, the existence of the chupacabra , or other subjects that are interesting but don't really matter.
 
You are regurgitating lies already debunked. What do you have that is not debunked? Why do you spread idiotic lies? Why did you sign up in January and start posting lies today?
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Please link to where the info has been debunked and we can talk about whether it's really been debunked.

Let's hear someone address the evidence in post #1 that the craft in the picture was too small to be a 757.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The evidence shows that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. Our not knowing what happened to the passengers doesn't make that evidence go away. There are a few plausible scenarios. We just don't know which one is the true one.

In this link there's a documentary called "Painful Deceptions".
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

It's also on YouTube.

In the last five minutes of part one a possible explanation for the passengers and the DNA is put forth.
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Too bad you can't talk to people that were there. Maybe then the truth could come out.

:rolleyes:
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The evidence shows that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. Our not knowing what happened to the passengers doesn't make that evidence go away. There are a few plausible scenarios. We just don't know which one is the true one.
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We do know what happened to the passengers; see links above. The evidence does show a 757 hit the Pentagon; see links above.

FatFreddy88 said:
In this link there's a documentary called "Painful Deceptions".
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

It's also on YouTube.

In the last five minutes of part one a possible explanation for the passengers and the DNA is put forth.
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Dealt with before, some links as far back as 2007.

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We're done here. There's literally nothing new out of this guy. Anyone else can use the search feature to find where it's all been discussed before.
 
Bell said:
Yeah, stop confusing FatFreddy88 with your rational posts.
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Oh, damn
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I forgot! Rationality might as well be Greek to a conspiracy peddler.

:D
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The evidence shows that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. Our not knowing what happened to the passengers doesn't make that evidence go away. There are a few plausible scenarios. We just don't know which one is the true one.

In this link there's a documentary called "Painful Deceptions".
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

It's also on YouTube.

In the last five minutes of part one a possible explanation for the passengers and the DNA is put forth.
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Ok now you are just trolling. Do you have any concept of how ENORMOUS the list of people involved in such a conspiracy would be? You are implicating a crapload of people here!
 
Dash80 said:
Ok now you are just trolling. Do you have any concept of how ENORMOUS the list of people involved in such a conspiracy would be? You are implicating a crapload of people here!
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Dude, the only people NOT involved in this conspiracy are the truthers.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
I think everybody has seen this picture of the craft that hit the Pentagon behind the box.
http://0911.voila.net/index3.htm
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What 'box' do you refer to? The helipad tower?

I think the fact that the craft in the first picture above is too small to be a 757 proves the government planned and carried out the 9/11 attack all by itself. Does anyone want to check my measurements and math?
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That or your premise and math is faulty. What is the edge abberation that this lens would cause? How do you determine that the part of the Pentagon height you are measuring is the same distance from the camera as the aircraft would be when it is seen in the photo?

If these distances are not exactly the same for the sake of arguement say the plane is actually 25 feet further than the part of the Pentagon you are measuring is what effect would that have on your calcs?

Where is the math to determine that adding 20% due to the angle the plane is to the camera is correct? If you are incorrect by 5 degrees how would this affect your calcs?

IOW I am asking for margins of error and reasoning for them.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
Please link to where the info has been debunked and we can talk about whether it's really been debunked.

Let's hear someone address the evidence in post #1 that the craft in the picture was too small to be a 757.
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It is obvious that you already had the preconceived notion that flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon. You truthers have an answer before you ask the question, this dominates your conclusions. Based on your "evidence" so far, I'd say you simply made your conclusion fit your fantasy.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The evidence shows that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon. Our not knowing what happened to the passengers doesn't make that evidence go away. There are a few plausible scenarios. We just don't know which one is the true one.

In this link there's a documentary called "Painful Deceptions".
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm

It's also on YouTube.

In the last five minutes of part one a possible explanation for the passengers and the DNA is put forth.
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You spread lies, you have no evidence, you have delusions. You present web sites proving you can't use evidence to see the truth, and proving you are very gullible.


Why did you start posting today all these lies? You signed up in Jan, you waited over 9 years to sign up here, and now you spread lies at Skeptics forum? Not wise to come armed with moronic claims and be evidence free.

Why did you pick today to post lies about 911? Why not in January when you signed up?
 
Bell said:
Dude, the only people NOT involved in this conspiracy are the truthers.
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Lol exactly, billions of shills all over the world. Just a tiny percentage of poor little innocent truthers.
 
What 'box' do you refer to? The helipad tower?
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Look at the top picture in this link.
http://0911.voila.net/index3.htm

You can see the tail above the left side of the box. I don't know the technical name for it but it lifts and lowers the pole that stops traffic.

How do you determine that the part of the Pentagon height you are measuring is the same distance from the camera as the aircraft would be when it is seen in the photo?
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I looked at the above view in the third photo from the top in this link.
http://www.flugplatzsiedlung.de/Pent_gate.pdf

The point where the green line touches the red line is about where the plane was and that's about as far from the camera as the point where the protruding wall ends on the right.

If these distances are not exactly the same for the sake of arguement say the plane is actually 25 feet further than the part of the Pentagon you are measuring is what effect would that have on your calcs?
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Not much because the craft seems to be about two thirds the length of a 757. It's really pretty obvious just looking at it without doing any measuring.

Where is the math to determine that adding 20% due to the angle the plane is to the camera is correct? If you are incorrect by 5 degrees how would this affect your calcs?
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I measured the lines in this picture.
http://www.flugplatzsiedlung.de/Pent_gate.pdf
(third from top)

The difference was about twenty percent. If we do the calcs with a thirty percent difference which is obviously too much, the craft is still shorter than a 757.

Let's hear your analysis of this proof.
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/911_part_iii.htm
 
Ok now you are just trolling. Do you have any concept of how ENORMOUS the list of people involved in such a conspiracy would be? You are implicating a crapload of people here!
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If somebody ever tried to go public, we'd never hear about it as the press is controlled.
http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=William+Schaap++-+The+Media,+CIA,+FBI+&+Disinfo.+&aq=f
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=trWcqxrQgcc
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html

Also, if someone tried to go public, something would probably happen to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
 
FatFreddy88 said:
The evidence shows that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon.
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No. It shows the opposite. Your statement shows you do not know what you're talking about, that's all. You're just another in a long line of people who believe in these long-debunked, batcraptastic fantasies.

You've already accused eyewitnesses of lying. Nice going. Literally dozens of people saw a jet flying toward the Pentagon, and several saw it hit.
The forensic evidence is overwhelming that their observations were fairly accurate.
Sorry dude, I take their word over yours, along with the concrete evidence, over dumb conspiracy documentaries which distort all the facts for propaganda purposes.

The real sheep are the ones who believe this nonsense.
 
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