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Clear evidence that 9/11 was an inside job

FatFreddy88

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I think everybody has seen this picture of the craft that hit the Pentagon behind the box.
http://0911.voila.net/index3.htm

This proof shows that the craft is too small to be a 757.
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/911_part_iii.htm

There is a section of the side of the Pentagon that has a protruding wall as can be seen in the top picture in this link.
http://0911.voila.net/index1.htm

The part of the Pentagon wall that's as far from the camera as the plane was when the picture was taken is about where the protruding wall ends on the right side.

I copied the picture and blew it up to a full page.
The length of the picture is 280 mm.

In the picture the height of the Pentagon wall at the point where it's as far from the camera as it is from the plane is 18 mm.

The space between the left side of the box and the tail of the plane is 20 mm. If we increase that by twenty percent to allow for the angle, it's 24 mm. Since a 757 is twice as long as the Pentagon is high, a 757 would be 36 mm at that spot. The craft in that picture can only be a maximum of two thirds the length of a 757.

Also, the nose of the craft in this picture is obviously too pointed to be the nose of a 757.
http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

It looks like the nose of a fighter such as an F-4.

The above is consistent with these two analyses.
http://www.physics911.net/missingwings
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ArticlesMeyer3March2006.html

I think the fact that the craft in the first picture above is too small to be a 757 proves the government planned and carried out the 9/11 attack all by itself. Does anyone want to check my measurements and math?
 
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a 757 is twice as tall as the pentagon is high? SINCE WHEN?!
 
Is this that thing from about 6 years ago with that picture of the screwed up perspective that proves the Pentagon is about 3 feet high?
 
FatFreddy88 said:
Does anyone want to check my measurements and math?
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Sure.
FatFreddy88 said:
Since a 757 is twice as tall as the Pentagon is high, a 757 would be 36 mm at that spot.
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Pentagon height = 77 feet. (The old DoD "pentagon facts" page is no longer available, but google is your friend)

Are you suggesting that a Boeing 757 is 150 feet tall? :eek: Have you ever been on an airplane? You don't have to take an elevator up 10 or 12 stories to get into a Boeing 757. A 757 is 44 feet high at its highest point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_757#Design
 
Yes. I meant to say "Long". Sorry.

I just went back and changed it.
 
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I assume he meant that the 757 is twice as "long" as the Pentagon is tall.
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Yes he probably does but it was still funny! Boeing 757: 155ft long.


Hey freddy perhaps it would be wise to check you make sense BEFORE hitting submit!
 
carlitos said:
Hey, he asked for the math check. Why would I assume anything?
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Amen, what I'd really like to know is what this humdinger means:

"The part of the Pentagon wall that's as far from the camera as the plane was when the picture was taken is about where the protruding wall ends on the right side."

Wow, and all that through a fish eye lens?

/edited to add the obvious: due to its flight path, up until shortly before the impact (and certainly when the plane was seen in the ophoto upon which our hero bases his "analysis") the plane was substantially further away from the camera than "where the protruding wall ends on the right." This is the type of thinking that led to a an all-time Stundie award. What ever happened to terrel anyway?
 
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Yeah, yeah, here we go again

From the inestimable Gravy (more specifically, his above linked site):
104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.

7 said it was a Boeing 757.

8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.

42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.


2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.​

15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel. ​

3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.​

3 took photographs of the aftermath.​


Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."​
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... and there's even more - waaaaaay more - but this post is long enough as it is.
 
Oh. 240-185 had a very relevant post from a french forum, regarding the commonsense questions to ask of Pentagon-9/11 conspiracy peddlers:
1- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what was it then?
2- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what struck the lamp poles?
3- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did the eyewitnesses who had identified a Boeing from AA saw?
4- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what happened to the passengers?
5- If AA77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, how could the DNAs be recovered?

Pentagonfatalities-full.jpg




(Snipping the part that doesn't directly relate to Pentagon wreckage myth peddling.)



* How can you explain that the damage made exactly matches the dimensions of a Boeing 757?

PentagonMissileoverview-full.jpg


* Do you say that these organizations are shills?

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Alexandria VA Fire & Rescue, American Airlines, American Red Cross, Arlington County Emergency Medical Services, Arlington County Fire Department, Arlington County Sheriff's Department, Arlington VA Police Department, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms, DiLorenzo TRICARE Health Clinic staff, DeWitt Army Community Hospital staff, District of Columbia Fire & Rescue, DOD Honor Guard, Environmental Protection Agency Hazmat Teams, Fairfax County Fire & Rescue, FBI Evidence Recovery Teams, FBI Hazmat Teams, Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Disaster Medical Assistance Teams, FEMA 68-Person Urban Search and Rescue Teams Maryland Task Force 1, New Mexico Task Force 1, Tennessee Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 1, Virginia Task Force 2, FEMA Emergency Response Team, Fort Myer Fire Department, Four U.S. Army Chaplains, Metropolitan Airport Authority Fire Unit, Military District of Washington Engineers Search & Rescue Team, Montgomery County Fire & Rescue, U.S. National Guard units, National Naval Medical Center CCRF, National Transportation Safety Board, Pentagon Defense Protective Service, Pentagon Helicopter Crash Response Team, Pentagon Medical Staff, Rader Army Health Clinic Staff, SACE Structural Safety Engineers and Debris Planning and Response Teams, Salvation Army Disaster Services, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, US Army Reserves of Virginia Beach Fairfax County and Montgomery County, Virginia Beach Fire Department, Virginia Department of Emergency Management, Virginia State Police

* Do you say that AA lied about the existence of the plane?
* Do you say that the FAA lied about the existence of the plane?
* Do you say that if AA doesn't have any flight numbered 77 since September 2001, its purpose is to make us to have the illusion that the flight existed?
* Among the identified eyewitnesses, do you say they are just liars?
* What are the objective points to say that the debris do NOT belong to the plane (An answer other than "I guess that these debris are too small/large" is needed) ?
* What are the objective points to say that a plane could not do the damage (An answer other than "I guess that this crash is too incredible to make such a thing blahblahblah" is needed) ?
* Do you think there's another plane which landed somewhere else to bring the passengers in a secret place in order to do something EEEEEVIL?
* Do you think the plane flew over the Pentagon?
* The FDR indicates that the plane was still in contact with the air traffic controllers, even if the pirates turned the transponder off. Do you say that the FDR which is available on the Internet is faked?
* What are the objective points to deny that the hostages inside the planes say through their phones that it had been hijacked by terrorists?
* What are the objective points to deny the FBI investigation (An answer other than "The FBI always hide something to us, honest citizens lolololol" is needed)?
You are free to copy them, paste them, copy and paste, add some questions, remove some of them, rephrase them, adapt them to the hardcore deniers that declare that no plane hit the Twin Towers, or anything you think which is important :)
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FatFreddy88 said:
... I think the fact that the craft in the first picture above is too small to be a 757 proves the government planned and carried out the 9/11 attack all by itself. Does anyone want to check my measurements and math?
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Why do you hate the government of the USA, the government by the people and for the people; we are the government, we can vote all the bums out of office anytime we want!

Math? LOL, the FBI has RADAR data that makes your story a fantasy.
Why do we need to check your math when you claims are moronic nonsense?
The FBI has the FDR which makes your story nuts.
The FBI has DNA from the people you disrespect by making up stories about, found in the Pentagon, including terrorist DNA.
The FBI found the FDR in the Pentagon from Flight 77.
As stated before all but one passengers was identified from remains in the Pentagon, they boarded Flight 77 and RADAR shows their flight ended at the Pentagon.

Why do you spread moronic lies? Does it make you feel good about 911, telling lies and ignoring the dead from flight 77 and those killed at their desks in the Pentagon? UBL took credit and is dead, you have no one to apologize for anymore.
 
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