Opinion on Marijuana and smoking.

In your opinion:

  • Smoking tobacco and marijuana should be banned

    Votes: 14 11.4%

  • Smoking tobacco and marijuana should be NOT be banned

    Votes: 98 79.7%

  • Smoking tobacco should be banned, but marijuana should NOT be banned

    Votes: 7 5.7%

  • Smoking tobacco should NOT be banned, but marijuana should be banned

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • On Planet X: we have to smoke both to survive

    Votes: 3 2.4%

  • On Planet X^2: ....err...what is smoking?

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • Total voters
    123

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This thread, which seemed to have started simply as a troll, has turned into an interesting stance about smoking regular cigarettes and how strongly people feel about it.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205589

It leads me to think: it seems to me that the people who are for a blanket ban on smoking regular cigarettes are for the legalization of marijuana and the people who are against a blanket ban (even open up the laws more) are against the legalization of marijuana.

I'd like to see your opinion and why. Of course I know that this is not a scientific poll, but I'd like to see what people say.

For me, I'm against any a smoking ban and feel that if a bar or a restaurants wants to allow smoking, they should. I'm also very big into the legalization of marijuana.

What do you think?
 
Regular smoking of cannabis isn't healthy, but there are other means of administration, and I don't think vaporizing counts as smoking.
 
I find it incredible that anyone could be for banning one but not the other. No wait, that's a perfectly understandable consequence of the modular mind. I'm reminded of that crazy Barry Cooper guy who used to bust people for a living until he quit being a cop and eventually started smoking pot. He liked it so much and felt so guilty about his life that he became a radical pot activist. Like seriously how many people have smoked a lot of pot, then later figured "Wow we really need to ban this stuff" I find it impossible to imagine.


My other opinion on smokes and pot, if someone offers you a popper, DON'T DO IT!!! This hellish creation consists of a small chunk of cigarette packed into a shaft, pot packed on top and the whole thing pulled through in one bong rip. It's a whole new experience. Whole towns have been taken over. You can't go back after you start!!! It's spreading like a plague. Just say no to poppers. ;)
 
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I smoke medical marijuana, and I don't smoke tobacco. Tobacco is disgusting. But if a private business wants, they should be able to allow patrons to smoke it up. Glad to be able to go to a restaurant and eat smoke-free though.
 
Smoking tobacco may be more harmful than smoking weed, but I can't see banning the stuff, that's just too draconian.

I do enjoy the smoke free bars and restaurants we have here, though. While in theory it sounds good to say that bars can choose to prohibit smoking if they want, the reality is if it's not legislated, you are going to be breathing that smoke while you are playing pool, period.
 
Living in a country where both are legal I've not seen any negative effect of allowing both.

As a person who gets massive headaches when forced to sit in other people's smoke I do support the ban on smoking anything in enclosed public spaces and the shift in politeness that took place so that smokers nowadays ask wether they can smoke in a house rather than assume it when in the presence of non-smokers.

If you want to poison yourself with tobacco or weed, go ahead, but don't force me to inhale that stuff because I happen to be in the same room. In reverse, if I for some reason enter a place specificly designed for smokers of either I'm not going to complain, as I chose to do that myself.
 
I'm a bit of a fan of the whoopee weed - although I haven't smoked in over ten years now - and as an ex-tobacco smoker I understand why people want to continue to do it.

I think we should work, through education, towards a world where the tobacco companies go out of business because no-one wants to smoke. I don't think it'll ever happen though.
 
About the only thing I would consider banning is Prohibition itself. The social consequences have clearly been shown to be far worse than what it is attempting to cure.

And the attempt never works in the first place.

What was it Einstein was supposed to have said about 'insanity', "... doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."?
 
quadraginta said:
About the only thing I would consider banning is Prohibition itself. The social consequences have clearly been shown to be far worse than what it is attempting to cure.

And the attempt never works in the first place.

What was it Einstein was supposed to have said about 'insanity', "... doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."?
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This.
 
As long as smoking is at home, and not in public places, restaurant or underground train, you can smoke whatever you want. Cigarette, Marijuanna, Carpette , Fox Fur, Soap and Paper.
 
I think banning anything is draconian outside of open murder and other serious crime, I'll go ahead and leave that remark to common sense to avoid the slippery slope that may open to literalistic folk.

I will say, I find tobacco smoke to be absolutely disgusting, and I can't stand to be around it in a room. Even when I smoked for ten years.

I've found cannabis to be pungent and sort of like an exotic and familiar incense, I don't mind it at all. I can see it bothering people for being so strong. But I've never found it to be irritating like tobacco smoke.

The first time I got off the train in Amsterdam and smelled pot, my mind immediately said "HEY, I smell pot in a public place, WTF is this person crazy??" Then a few seconds later I remembered where I was.

Gods the cannabis was amazing there. it's a freaking crime they mix it with tobacco.
 
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Gods the cannabis was amazing there. it's a freaking crime they mix it with tobacco.
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Yeah, kind of like taking a fine bourbon and pouring Gatorade into it. I rarely smoke weed any more, but I still like that sweet smell, it's not an uncommon one in public places here, unfortunately tobacco smell is much more common.
 
IMO, alcohol and tobacco are far more damaging than the maryjane.

I remember reading an article (I believe it was in one of the Bathroom Readers) that touched base on the CT that the reason MJ got banned was due to pressure from DuPont and other chemical companies because hemp and such was better and cheaper than the nylon stuff coming out at the time. Politicians were making stuff up and using scare tactics to get the public to agree that MJ should not be legal. It's been the same ever since.

Seriously, I cannot understand the hypocrisy in allowing alcohol and tobacco to be legal while cannabis is not.
 
Sabretooth said:
I remember reading an article (I believe it was in one of the Bathroom Readers) that touched base on the CT that the reason MJ got banned was due to pressure from DuPont and other chemical companies because hemp and such was better and cheaper than the nylon stuff coming out at the time.
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In a word no. First bans on cannabis in the US appeared in 1906. Nylon wasn't invented until 1935.


In fact hemp is inferior to Nylon for most aplications which is why even though hemp production is quite legal in europe it tends to be limited to niche aplications
 
Sabretooth said:
IMO, alcohol and tobacco are far more damaging than the maryjane.

I remember reading an article (I believe it was in one of the Bathroom Readers) that touched base on the CT that the reason MJ got banned was due to pressure from DuPont and other chemical companies because hemp and such was better and cheaper than the nylon stuff coming out at the time. Politicians were making stuff up and using scare tactics to get the public to agree that MJ should not be legal. It's been the same ever since.

Seriously, I cannot understand the hypocrisy in allowing alcohol and tobacco to be legal while cannabis is not.
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It was a labor thing. A lot of illegal Mexican workers were coming over, and they were looking for ways of casting aspersions on them. They hit upon marijuana as something that that the illegals brought with them but which was practically unknown in the general population. A smear campaign was started, characterizing MJ as an evil weed, etc., and then associating it with the illegals as a way of swaying public opinion against them. Only years later was the campaign broadened to target American youth, in the over the top excesses we all know and love, like Reefer Madness.
 
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