Charlie Sheen faces protest from 9/11 conspiracy theorists for "neglecting the cause"

[BasqueArch]

I'm schizophrenic and so am I

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Now conspiracy group The 9/11 Truth Movement are threatening to protest at his live shows, accusing him of neglecting to talk about the matter.

Mark Dice, a prominent member of the organisation, told TMZ that the former Two And A Half Men star has abandoned them after once being a keen supporter.

He said that Sheen should be using the limelight he is currently enjoying to promote the group.

'[He should be] asking hard questions about what happened on 9/11 and the resulting wars ... not bragging about smoking crack and sleeping with hookers,' Mr Dice told the website.

He added that he had reached out to Sheen, but has had no response, adding that if the 45-year-old actor doesn't address the issue soon he will protest at Sheen's live shows along with fellow group members.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...rists-neglecting-cause.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

This is the kind of psychotic behavior you'd expect from a disturbed, jealous ex; If I can't have you no one else will - I'll stalk you and make your life a living hell ...
I bet the apostate Sheen is sorry he ever befriended these truther nutsoids.
Sleep with dogs wake up with fleas.

 

[Dog Town]

They should still have plenty of common ground.

Charlie Sheen: "Winning."

Truth Movement: "Winning."

Respectfully,
Myriad

"If either of the two are winning, there's something wrong with the scoreboard."
Paraphrased from Charlies newest sidekick.

 

[TjW]

Bixsexual??? That's gotta chafe!

Apparently, they grab each other Biederbecke.

 

[Brainster]

Which makes Dice's complaints even more bizarre when you consider Sheen's lifestyle. Does Dice just... not know about that stuff?

Dice was one of those guys railing against the gay lifestyle, right up until the point that Rosie O'Donnell endorsed his videos on the View.

 

[Joey McGee]

Luckily, Mark ehrm, John Conner of the Resistance Manifesto (seriously) has created a video presentation explaining exactly how he qualifies a quality woman. Just try and forget it really fast after you watch. link

He's got a fantastic eye for potential truth movement leaders. Too bad Danny Bonaduce didn't appreciate having a pleasant meal ruined by a total freak from the depths of internet hell. Linked to Danny's retort, pretty funny. NSFW

His new claim to fame is his chiropractic miracle video, gawd makes me want to run out to a bone cracker right now.

With leaders like this I'm sure the resistance is going to start rising any day now

 

[Alan]

Dice was one of those guys railing against the gay lifestyle, right up until the point that Rosie O'Donnell endorsed his videos on the View.

The gay agenda:
1. Make everyone truthers.
2. Start being a truther.
3. Equality for all!

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

Charlie Sheen - good riddance

If Charlie Sheen doesn't have the common sense to keep an easy million a week TV show job, or to educate the public about 9/11 now, that is good riddance. In 2009, Charlie Sheen was helpful to the 9/11 Truth Movement with his Questions for Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU

But Charlie has turned in to a disgrace. Something has changed him for the worse, probably drugs. His "rocks" made lose his job, health, and respect. Regardless, now you couldn't pay me to waste time going to Sheen's show, even if it was next door. People pay to hear some drug taking guy bragging about "winning"? What a waste of money.

The people who speak best for the 9/11 Truth Movement are PhDs in fields like Chemistry, Physics, Civil Engineering such as Doctors Steven Jones, Niels Harrit, David Griscom, Jame Farrer, Robert Bowman, A.K. Dewdney, Henry Flanders, Joel Hirschhorn, Hamid Mumin, Hugo Bachmann, and plenty more from http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

 

[beachnut]

If Charlie Sheen doesn't have the common sense to keep an easy million a week TV show job, or to educate the public about 9/11 now, that is good riddance. In 2009, Charlie Sheen was helpful to the 9/11 Truth Movement with his Questions for Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU

But Charlie has turned in to a disgrace. Something has changed him for the worse, probably drugs. His "rocks" made lose his job, health, and respect. Regardless, now you couldn't pay me to waste time going to Sheen's show, even if it was next door. People pay to hear some drug taking guy bragging about "winning"? What a waste of money.

The people who speak best for the 9/11 Truth Movement are PhDs in fields like Chemistry, Physics, Civil Engineering such as Doctors Steven Jones, Niels Harrit, David Griscom, Jame Farrer, Robert Bowman, A.K. Dewdney, Henry Flanders, Joel Hirschhorn, Hamid Mumin, Hugo Bachmann, and plenty more from http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

I understand why Charlie, who dropped out of high school, can't understand 911. The list of fools, patriotsquestion911, dolts who should be able to figure out 911 but fail, a mystery until we see they are less than 0.01 percent of all people. A fringe few who can't figure out 911 due to ignorance and failure to research past their failed opinions.

http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html a list of people who can't figure out 911 given over 9 years and the answers. Sad. At least Charlie is over qualified to fail at figuring out 911. What excuse do the rest of the fools at http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html have?

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html a list of people who can't figure out 911 given over 9 years and the answers.

Your comment is typical of a 9/11 Denier, who without any PhD or advanced degree, pompously criticizes those who have much higher academic credentials and intelligence. You make a blanket judgment of people you don't know, without reading their work - a poor example of "critical thinking". In your little environment here in JREF, you can get away with such utterances, but not in the serious scientific community.

You can fly a plane, which is great, but have never published a scientific paper, much less over 190 as Dr. David Griscom has. Academically, you are a mental midget compared to these giants who have PhDs, positions as college professors, and numerous academic awards.

You should know the Max Operating Speeds of Boeing 757's, which supposedly went over 500 mph near sea level on 9/11? Even in your own field you fail to apply your knowledge to 9/11. Probably you post here, instead of www.PilotsFor911Truth.com because they would shoot your "logic" down in flames.

You are the one who has been duped for 9 years. When you have a PhD in a relevant field (Chemistry, Physics, Civil Engineering, etc.) and have published even one paper, you can even think about credibly criticizing those on the professors for 9/11 truth lists.

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Your comment is typical of a 9/11 Denier, who without any PhD or advanced degree, pompously criticizes those who have much higher academic credentials and intelligence. In your little environment here in JREF, you can get away with such utterances, but not in the scientific community. You can fly a plane, which is great, but have never published a scientific paper, much less over 190 as Dr. David Griscom has. You are an academic midget compared to these giants.

You are the one who has been duped for 9 years. When you have a PhD in a relevant field (Chemistry, Physics, Civil Engineering, etc.) and have published even one paper, you can even think about criticizing those on the professors for 9/11 list.

Thanks, cicorp, for your poster-boy example of the Argument from Authority.

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

Definition of Argument by Authority

Thanks, cicorp, for your poster-boy example of the Argument from Authority.

It is more invalid to make a blanket statement discounting authorities with many more academic credentials. So what are you saying - we can never cite any authorities in any arguments?

Look up the description of Argument of Authority in your own reference (did you read it?):
"This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on the subject"

The professors on the list, with PhDs in their fields, are legitimate authorities on the subject. It is common and acceptable practice to cite references in peer reviewed scientific journals. You call that "appeal to authority?"

Your post is an example of how JREF, supposedly a "critical thinking forum" has degenerated into a place for sloppily thinking guys to shoot the bull.

 

[Dave Rogers]

You are the one who has been duped for 9 years. When you have a PhD in a relevant field (Chemistry, Physics, Civil Engineering, etc.) and have published even one paper, you can even think about credibly criticizing those on the professors for 9/11 truth lists.

Ph.D in physics with about 40 papers here. The professors for 9/11 truth are drawing patently absurd conclusions as a result of working so far outside their areas of expertise that they are, in effect, no more knowledgeable than a complete layman. And that's my professional opinion.

Dave

 

[Dave Rogers]

The professors on the list, with PhDs in their fields, are legitimate authorities on the subject.

No, for the most part, they're not. None of them are structural engineers, and so none are competent to claim authority on the response of structures to damage.

You could, I suppose, argue that Niels Harrit is a chemist and is therefore a legitimate authority on matters of chemistry. This makes his apparent ignorance of the Law of Conservation of Energy and of the nature of a thermite reaction quite inexplicable, but they are nonetheless real. His work can therefore be dismissed on the basis of obvious errors, which over-ride any appeal to authority.

Dave

 

[Joey McGee]

Don't forget to mention the list of brave celebrities... Jesse Ventura, Willie Nelson, Roseanne Barr, Woody Harrelson, David Lynch http://www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org/ because if a group of people like this gets together, you know something real is going on.

 

[TruthMakesPeace]

Ph.D in physics with about 40 papers here. The professors for 9/11 truth are drawing patently absurd conclusions as a result of working so far outside their areas of expertise that they are, in effect, no more knowledgeable than a complete layman. And that's my professional opinion.

Can you please send me your vitae and list of publications, through the private email if you wish. Sorry but I find it hard to believe that a PhD physics would believe the official fairy tale, after examining it critically.

If you have a PhD in physics and 40 papers, then you could comment intelligently on, say, Dr. Steven Jones who has 50 papers. Your 40 is close enough to his 50. You increase my faith in JREF as worth posting on. But you're still way short of Dr. Griscom's 193 papers.

Although the physics of semiconductors is not directly relevant to the collapse of concrete and steel structures, I would agree that a PhD in any area of physics knows Newton's Laws very well.

his apparent ignorance of the Law of Conservation of Energy

Do you seriously believe Bazant's "pile driver" theory, which violates the Law of Conservation of Momentum?

and of the nature of a thermite reaction quite inexplicable

Have you seen Jonathan Cole's experiments, which show that certain mixtures and placement of thermite can explode steel beams?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwqLu8ZXIX0

(Feel free to take this to another topic, as this is off the Charlie Sheen topic.)

 

[tsig]

Hey Mark Dice is a Christian Freedom Fighter! He's not just up against the NWO, he's speaking out about all of the sluts and satanic whores, plus their abortionists too.

WOW! that video was so evil that he had to show it and even hilight certain parts of it. Is Mark condemning or salivating?

 

[tsig]

If Charlie Sheen doesn't have the common sense to keep an easy million a week TV show job, or to educate the public about 9/11 now, that is good riddance. In 2009, Charlie Sheen was helpful to the 9/11 Truth Movement with his Questions for Obama. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU

But Charlie has turned in to a disgrace. Something has changed him for the worse, probably drugs. His "rocks" made lose his job, health, and respect. Regardless, now you couldn't pay me to waste time going to Sheen's show, even if it was next door. People pay to hear some drug taking guy bragging about "winning"? What a waste of money.

The people who speak best for the 9/11 Truth Movement are PhDs in fields like Chemistry, Physics, Civil Engineering such as Doctors Steven Jones, Niels Harrit, David Griscom, Jame Farrer, Robert Bowman, A.K. Dewdney, Henry Flanders, Joel Hirschhorn, Hamid Mumin, Hugo Bachmann, and plenty more from http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

Here's what he says:

In particular, in the absence of some agency (possibly unknown to physical science) that removed the wings, there is no way to avoid the conclusion that the wings (and therefore the aircraft) were never present in the first place


Does he think that demons did it?

 

[Joey McGee]

cicorp, care to comment about Mark Dice? We were having a fun time illustrating how insane he is, compared to Charlie Sheen, not much difference eh?. Thoughts? Or you just want to derail this thread to sabotage our efforts? BTW have you given up apologia for TM as well?

 

[WildCat]

Ph.D in physics with about 40 papers here. The professors for 9/11 truth are drawing patently absurd conclusions as a result of working so far outside their areas of expertise that they are, in effect, no more knowledgeable than a complete layman. And that's my professional opinion.

Dave

But but but didn't you ever see that documentary "Gilligan's Island"? The professor was an expert on everything!

Debunked!

 

[DaveThomasNMSR]

Can you please send me your vitae and list of publications, through the private email if you wish. Sorry but I find it hard to believe that a PhD physics would believe the official fairy tale, after examining it critically.

Thanks cicorp, for your textbook example of the Appeal to Ridicule.

If you have a PhD in physics and 40 papers, then you could comment intelligently on, say, Dr. Steven Jones who has 50 papers. Your 40 is close enough to his 50. You increase my faith in JREF as worth posting on. But you're still way short of Dr. Griscom's 193 papers.

Although the physics of semiconductors is not directly relevant to the collapse of concrete and steel structures, I would agree that a PhD in any area of physics knows Newton's Laws very well.


Do you seriously believe Bazant's "pile driver" theory, which violates the Law of Conservation of Momentum?

Um, no, to understand the tower collapses, you actually do need to understand conservation of momentum.

Have you seen Jonathan Cole's experiments, which show that certain mixtures and placement of thermite can explode steel beams?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwqLu8ZXIX0

(Feel free to take this to another topic, as this is off the Charlie Sheen topic.)

"Thermite". Yeah, right.