Merged School Secretary Persecuted For Making Porn

[The Norseman]

Have you googled her work?

I have now.








Several times.

 

[tyr_13]

Even factoring in the risk of HIV "porn star" still isn't in the top ten dangerous professions alongside taxi driving, pizza delivery and chainsawing trees. If the goal was really to prevent teachers modelling dangerous behaviour for students then they should sack any of them who cut down a tree. I can't see that happening.

I'm pretty sure that if a teacher made a video of them driving recklessly, without a seat belt, in many different cars (black cars, white cars, even minis), from every different seat, or operating a chain saw without proper protective equipment, and a face shield, that they'd have a problem with that as well.

Not as large a problem I'd speculate, but a problem none the less.

 

[Puppycow]

That's pretty much how it works, yeah.

Many go into porn thinking that will get them mainstream roles in Hollywood, which rarely happens. Usually it gets you blacklisted.

But then again, so can being in a successful sitcom. What did Bob Denver ever do after Gilligan's Island?

I think a porn star working in a school woulkd be a major distraction, both to the kids (who will eventually find out) and to coworkers. It's hard for most people to look at someone the same again after seeing them doing the things porn stars do.

I agree that that's pretty much how it works today, but there's a difference between 'is' and 'should'. I'm going to keep going back to the gay analogy, but 50 years ago it was hard for most people to look at someone the same again after they came out as gay. The people who actually see porn are those who choose to, for their own pleasure.

So everyone is good with the thought that a 14 year old student recognised her

The thought occurred to me but it seemed like too obvious a point to even require mentioning. The kid was only exposed to this by doing what society's conventional thinkers say he shouldn't be doing.

As long as porn is not generally accepted by a society - and I would say Canadians mostly do not accept it - a high school secretary should not be allowed to "moonlight in a porn movie", and thus should be let go.

I am fairly sure she knew about the risk beforehand, she made a calculated move and it backfired.

And if homosexuality is not generally accepted by a society and a gay person comes out of the closet, knowing the risk before hand, they should be let go too?

There's a difference between being taught about sex in a clinical way, and watching people have sex. There is a difference between doing something on your own time, and doing something on your own time that everyone can see.

Only people who choose to watch porn see it. There's a hypocrisy in people who watch this stuff for their own pleasure holding those who make it in contempt.

However, if you know bad things can happen if you make a porno, and you do it anyway, you deserve what happens to you.

And if you know that bad things can happen if you come out as gay, and you do it anyway, you deserve what happens to you.

 

[Puppycow]

A quick Google search shows she wasn't engaging in safe sex in her pornos, hardly the example kids should be learning about.

"Safe" here meaning with a condom?

There are other ways to be safe, such as testing all participants for STDs.

 

[Puppycow]

I'm sorry, I'm ethically opposed to sensationalism for its own sake. The porn in the OP, by the way, wasn't made or shown 'in public'. A female employee is being sanctioned for undertaking legal activity in private in her own time.

This. Porn is viewed only by people who choose to view it. To those who don't choose to view it, the knowledge that she is a porn star is no different than the knowledge that another person is gay. It's just information about the person's sexuality, which is their own business. Anyone who views it is satisfying their own sexual curiosity and/or desire, and is in no position to hold the person who makes it in contempt. I think it's the height of hypocrisy for consumers of porn to hold the makers of it in contempt.

 

[WildCat]

"Safe" here meaning with a condom?

There are other ways to be safe, such as testing all participants for STDs.

And as I have shown testing does not prevent STDs. There is a period after infection and before the disease shows up on tests, but during which the STD is communicable. A porn star can have sex with dozens of coworkers in this time, who in turn have sex with others.

This. Porn is viewed only by people who choose to view it. To those who don't choose to view it, the knowledge that she is a porn star is no different than the knowledge that another person is gay. It's just information about the person's sexuality, which is their own business. Anyone who views it is satisfying their own sexual curiosity and/or desire, and is in no position to hold the person who makes it in contempt. I think it's the height of hypocrisy for consumers of porn to hold the makers of it in contempt.

Would you feel any different about your wife if she decided to take a job as a porn actress? Why or why not?

 

[Ausmerican]

That's pretty much how it works, yeah.

Many go into porn thinking that will get them mainstream roles in Hollywood, which rarely happens. Usually it gets you blacklisted.

Wait. You mean being one of Charlie Sheens goddesses isn't a mainstream Hollywood role? Damn Bree is gonna be pissed!

But then again, so can being in a successful sitcom. What did Bob Denver ever do after Gilligan's Island?

Smoked a buttload of weed and then got busted for having it mailed to him. Must've been a holdover from all that time on an island.

I think a porn star working in a school woulkd be a major distraction, both to the kids (who will eventually find out) and to coworkers. It's hard for most people to look at someone the same again after seeing them doing the things porn stars do.

Not to mention it is way unfair competition for the teachers that are trying to sleep with the students!

 

[Puppycow]

And as I have shown testing does not prevent STDs. There is a period after infection and before the disease shows up on tests, but during which the STD is communicable. A porn star can have sex with dozens of coworkers in this time, who in turn have sex with others.

So it's not 100% safe. Neither is driving a car.

Would you feel any different about your wife if she decided to take a job as a porn actress? Why or why not?

Irrelevant. We're talking about an employee not a spouse.

 

[Rasmus]

Where do they visit the sites? In the privacy of their own homes. Taking a dump is accepted, but is getting paid for someone to film you taking a dump?

What are you talking about?

The question was if porn was "accepted" in Canada. I simply replied that something that so man y people do certainly seems to be accepted to me.

I have seen nothing that suggested that in this case the films she was acting in were either produced or shown at her work - so it appears to me it was done privately enough.

No, I don't think it is accepted to take money and let people film me taking a dump. I doubt that some 10% of the population would be doing that or something similar.

Not for a school employee.

Did you see a goalpost somewhere around here? I could have sworn it was there a minute ago!

It belongs in the bathroom.

Because you say so?

What is the age range of the school children in question? 13-18? So how is your statistic relevant in any way, other than the overlap at age 18, which makes it "okay" for them to purchase or view porn, but still doesn't make it okay for a porn actress to work in the office of the school?

Try reading for comprehension.

Also, if 13-17 year olds didn't consume porn (Bwahahahahahahahahahah!!!), then where is the problem at all? In that case, the teacher would be doing something that the children are not even aware of exists and could not have much of a mental image of if someone told them.

But the problem very much is that the children would watch her films, isn't it?

 

[lionking]

FWIW, if one of my staff turned out to be moonlighting as a porn star, I wouldn't be stupid enough to sack or discipline her, but would let her know that her future would be limited. There is such a thing as bad publicity.

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Aside from the red herring of role models..

I don't think the employer has the right to regulate her private activites.

 

[23_Tauri]

I have now.








Several times.

LOL!

 

[Rasmus]

FWIW, if one of my staff turned out to be moonlighting as a porn star, I wouldn't be stupid enough to sack or discipline her, but would let her know that her future would be limited. There is such a thing as bad publicity.

So, firing would be stupid, but mobbing her wouldn't?

 

[lionking]

So, firing would be stupid, but mobbing her wouldn't?

Did I say anything about mobbing her?

 

[Information Analyst]

It's hard for most people to look at someone the same again after seeing them doing the things porn stars do.

So don't look. If people choose to watch porn, the consequences of that viewing is their own responsibility.

 

[Rasmus]

Did I say anything about mobbing her?

Yes, you did.

IANAL, but I'd say that announcing to people that they have no career options because you don't like their noses is mobbing. (How it is not a form of disciplining is beyond me as well...)

 

[lionking]

Yes, you did.

Er, no I didn't. We could play this game all day if you want.

 

[Information Analyst]

Would you feel any different about your wife if she decided to take a job as a porn actress?

"Is it a book you would wish your wife or servants to read?"

 

[GzuzKryzt]

...
And if homosexuality is not generally accepted by a society and a gay person comes out of the closet, knowing the risk before hand, they should be let go too?
...

Ah, come on, you know better than that, Puppycow. I never said that.

 

[GzuzKryzt]

Perhaps it helps to ask oneself:

If I were on the school board, what would I do? How would I rationalize my decision before my fellow board members, my family, my friends?

If I were a parent of a child who goes to said school, what would I want to happen?