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Bill Ayers admits he wrote "Dreams From My Father"

So, like the others, I challenge you to address the specific evidence listed in http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79392 rather than just waving your hands in dismissal based on your mischaracterization of what I've actually cited and posted. :D

I have taken the time to read through your evidence.. Let’s start at the beginning. All bolding is mine.

A number of diverse independent agents have been working on the authorship of Barack Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams From My Father." This includes five different stylometric analysts, here and in England. The unmistakable conclusion: Skilled editor and writer Bill Ayers was the primary author of important sections of Obama's book and editor of the work as a whole.

Good so far.. A number of different independent agents.

The team working on this project includes university professors who have distinguished themselves in the statistical analysis of authorship, systems engineers, writers and Ph.D. literary analysts
.

Good.. they are highly respected people that should be able to shed some light on this.

Understandably, given the treatment by the dominant media of people who choose to question the Obama candidacy – Joe the Plumber comes to mind – some of those who have worked on this project have asked us not to reveal their identities. They are not being paranoid, especially those who work in public universities. They are merely being prudent, an unfortunate comment on the academy today.

Ok this is where it falls apart… I can’t evaluate evidence unless I know that these people actually exist. But let’s continue anyway..

1. Literary history
Nothing here
2. Stylistic analysis
Nothing here.
3. Parallel stories
Nothing here.
4. Parallel metaphors
Nothing here.
5. Postmodern themes
Nothing here.

6. '60s consciousness
Nothing here.
7. The preface

Wait.. we have something here…

Bruce Heiden, classics professor at the Ohio State University, has done an eye-opening analysis of the introduction and preface

So an analysis was done.. Great.

Heiden argues that neither document ever states that Barack Obama, the credited author of "Dreams from My Father," actually wrote the book.

So because the introduction and preface never says “Barack Obama wrote this book” he didn’t write the book.?

My mistake.. Nothing here.

8. Stylometrics

The only named person that did anything said this…

In an earlier correspondence between Jack Cashill and Patrick Juola, one of the nation's leading authorities on data-driven computer analysis, Juola cautioned that "the accuracy simply isn't there."

I challenge you to address the specific evidence listed

Am I looking at the wrong link? I don’t see any evidence here. Lots of speculation and un-named sources but no evidence.
 
I’ve been doing a little stylistic analyzing of my own… I have to say I was struck by the similarities and am now convinced.

Just look at some of these quotes.. All the bolding is mine.

Using the chi-square statistic," observes one professor, "Obama's and Ayers' books were indistinguishable, while Obama's book was easily distinguishable from books by other authors."

And this one.

Writes another analyst, using his own proprietary software, "There is a strong likelihood that the author of "Fugitive Days" ghost-wrote "Dreams From My Father" using recordings of dialog

And another.

argues one university-based analyst who tested "Dreams" against Ayers' 2001 memoir, "Fugitive Days,"

That is just a couple of small samplings from the text of Jack Cashill’s article, and there are many more. This leads me to the concussion that Jack Cashill did not write this article. It was in fact written by one of the writers of The Weekly World News. I’m putting my money on Ed Anger.
 
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*cough*
First, the last line of the report points out the sample size was too small to normalize the data.
Second, Chris Yavelow's background is in music composition and has no particular expertise in linguistics or statistical analysis. If that's your criteria for analysis, I have a friend with similar credentials (MFA in Music Conducting and a great DM) who will attest that the two writing styles are not that similar at all. Appeals to inappropriate authority are fun!

Yavelow's conclusion, based on little to no expertise in the subject, is based on a sample size about half of his usual minimum requirement for such an analysis. An honest conclusion would be that the test is "inconclusive based on small sample size".
 
I’ve been doing a little stylistic analyzing of my own… I have to say I was struck by the similarities and am now convinced.
Furthermore, I have developed some computer software that came to the definitive conclusion that Ayers was joking:
10 PRINT IT WAS A JOKE
20 END
 
Furthermore, I have developed some computer software that came to the definitive conclusion that Ayers was joking:
10 PRINT IT WAS A JOKE
20 END


I believe your software would be more effective if line 20 was changed to "GOTO 10".
 
I believe your software would be more effective if line 20 was changed to "GOTO 10".

Sloppy spaghetti code, using GOTO.

WHILE HEAD=INSIDE_REAR
PRINT "IT WAS A JOKE"
WEND

that's better code but will last just as long.
 
Let's throw some passages from both books in here, and settle this once and for all:

http://iwl.me/

Based on the opening paragraphs:

A fewmonths after my twenty-first birthday, a stranger called to give me the news. I was living in New York at the time, on Ninety-fourth between Second and First, part of that unnamed, shifting border between East Harlem and the rest of Manhattan. It was an uninviting block, treeless and barren, lined with soot-colored walk-ups that cast heavy shadows for most of the day. The apartment was small, with slanting floors and irregular heat anda buzzer downstairs that didn’t work, so that visitors had to call ahead from a pay phone at the corner gas station, where a black Doberman the size of a wolf paced through the night in vigilant patrol, its jaws clamped around an empty beer bottle.
None of this concerned me much, for I didn’t get many visitors. I was impatient in those days, busy with work and unrealized plans,and prone to see other people as unnecessary distractions. It wasn’t that I didn’t appreciate company exactly. I enjoyed exchanging Spanish pleasantries with my mostly Puerto Rican neighbors, and on my way back from classes I’d usually stop to talk to the boys who hung out on the stoop all summer long about the Knicks or the gunshots they’d heard the night before. When the weather was good, my roommate and I might sit out on the fire escape to smoke cigarettes and study the dusk washing blue over the city, or watch white people from the better neighborhoods nearby walk their dogs down our block to let the animals **** on our curbs—“Scoop the poop, you bastards!” my roommate would shout with impressive rage, and we’d laugh at the faces of both master and beast, grim and unapologetic as they hunkered down to do the deed.
I enjoyed such moments—but only in brief. If the talk began to wander, or cross the border into familiarity, I would soon find reason to excuse myself. I had grown too comfortable in my solitude, the safest place I knew.
I remember there was an old man living next door who seemed to share my disposition. He lived alone, a gaunt, stooped figure who wore a heavy black overcoat and a misshapen fedora on those rare occasions when he left his apartment. Once in a while I’d run into him on his way back from the store, and I would offer to carry his groceries up the long flight of stairs. He would look at me and shrug, and we would begin our ascent, stopping at each landing so that he could catch his breath. When we finally arrived at his apartment, I’dcarefully set the bags down on the floor and he would offer a courtly nod of acknowledgment before shuffling inside and closing the latch. Not a single word would pass between us, and not once did he ever thank me for my efforts.
The old man’s silence impressed me; I thought him a kindred spirit. Later, my roommate would find him crumpled up on the third-floor landing, his eyes wide open, his limbs stiff and curled up like a baby’s. A crowd gathered; a few of the women crossed themselves, and the smaller children whispered with excitement. Eventually the paramedics arrived to take away the body and the police let themselves into the old man’s apartment. It was neat, almost empty—a chair, a desk, the faded portrait of a woman with heavy eyebrows and a gentle smile set atop the mantelpiece. Somebody opened therefrigerator and found close to a thousand dollars in small bills rolled up inside wads of old newspaper and carefully arranged behind mayonnaise and pickle jars.

Dreams from My Father was written by J.D. Salinger! Aha!
 
Dreams from My Father was written by J.D. Salinger! Aha!

So that is why Salinger was hiding.

Strange that nobody has noticed this before. I mean, how obvious can you get? Salinger practically stopped publishing after the 1950s. The Demon Seed was planted Barack Obama was conceived in 1960. :eek:

Coincidence? I'm sure that's exactly what you liberal Obamaniacs will claim. :rolleyes:
 
Now, now, I am sure this Cashill fellow is bringing a Jack White level of expertise to these photo & literary claims.
 
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_mathematics_of_dreams_from.html

Thomas Bayes, an 18th century minister in England, discovered a theory of "conditional probability" in his attempt to use mathematical equations to prove or disprove the existence of God. *Bayes' Theorem was published after his death by a colleague. It allows the computation of the probability of an event that we cannot prove with exact certitude from our observations of one or more related events that are provable. This theory can be applied to the question of authorship of Dreams from My Father using the observations included in Jack Cashill's well documented book Deconstructing Obama.

... snip ...

Mr. Cashill's assessment of the number of similarities that exist between one of his books and Fugitive Days provides all the data needed to apply Bayes' Theorem to quantify both the probability that Obama is the true author of Dreams and the probability that Ayers is the true author of Dreams.

... snip Bayes' analysis details ...

The results of my analysis using Bayes' Theorem for the conditional probabilities of events A1 and A2 are as follows:

P(A1|B)= 0.00% There is zero probability that Obama is the author of Dreams

P(A2|B)=100% There is 100% probability that Ayers is the author of Dreams

... snip ... What the mathematics is really proving is both Dreams and Fugitive are written by the same author with a probability of 100% out to many significant figures. That author is Ayers, Obama, or some third person yet unnamed.

And since it's highly unlikely that Obama wrote Fugitive ... :D
 
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_mathematics_of_dreams_from.html



And since it's highly unlikely that Obama wrote Fugitive ... :D

Since the computations in this article are based on the dishonest moron Cashill's assessment of the "striking similarities" between the two books, they are most likely garbage. Since, as usual, we aren't granted a full list of those striking similarities, it's not possible to say more. The article does note the incredible coincidence that both books misquote the same Carl Sandburg line in the exact same way (not mentioning that MANY people misquote it in the exact same way, or that it's the most famous poem about Chicago ever written). And we know from Cashill's articles (yes, some of us HAVE read them) that Cashill finds it mind-bendingly amazing that both books use such ultra-rare terms as "ballast" and "bill of particulars."

Please keep the "evidence" coming. I was going to say this thread is your Waterloo but that doesn't really fit. Napoleon won a lot of battles before Waterloo.
 

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