Merged April Gallop / Gallop lawsuit thrown out / Appeal denied

newton3376 said:
The classification of "Confidential" is rare these days.....although I guess NATO still uses it....but it is something not often seen.....well at least in my experience.
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Then there's "RESTRICTED" which we used to reckon meant "restricted to military personnel - the enemy can have copies but make sure you keep it away from the civilians"

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I had a secret clearance when i was in the Air Force just because I neeeded it to patrol the flightline. Most of our vehicle logs were considered "confidential" because they might help round out some over-all assessment of how vulnerable some of our buildigns might be, or might be a clue to the movements of key personnel or aircraft. Mostly, the "confidential " classification is for stuff that nobody really has any legitimate reason to know if they are not working in an area where they needed to know it was there for safety reasons.
 
Oystein said:
That was in 1993 ;)
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Gotcha....that makes sense since "Confidential" is an older classification....

These days things are either FOUO or SECRET (and up)

There are also other classifications such as LES....and the different NATO ones but typically I only see "Confidential" on NATO stuff if ever....
 
People can also be granted a "confidential" security clearance, although it's extremely rare and is probably only due to circumstances that would require a downgrade from a previous "secret" clearance. One of the majors in my unit has a confidential clearance; I discovered that at my last battle assembly, so we're working on getting him upgraded. Not sure what circumstances prompted that; he was a little surprised by it too. I'm pretty sure he would have had a secret clearance before. Recent changes to the regulation has greatly reduced the number of MOS's that didn't previously require a security clearance; almost everyone is going to be required to have at least a secret clearance now. At least in the Army; I don't know about the other branches. I've actually got 111 folks in my entire brigade (including subordinate units) that need clearances, so I've got some work to do.

Setting that aside, however, it doesn't change what others have said. You can have a fairly high level clearance and yet never come into contact with the really high level stuff. So for Ms. Gallop, I'm not impressed by her "Top Secret". Does anyone know what she did while in the military? Or what her MOS was?
 
ozeco41 said:
Then there's "RESTRICTED" which we used to reckon meant "restricted to military personnel - the enemy can have copies but make sure you keep it away from the civilians"

;)
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LOL Nice....

You were in the Auzzie military, is that correct?
 
Sabrina said:
People can also be granted a "confidential" security clearance, although it's extremely rare and is probably only due to circumstances that would require a downgrade from a previous "secret" clearance. One of the majors in my unit has a confidential clearance; I discovered that at my last battle assembly, so we're working on getting him upgraded. Not sure what circumstances prompted that; he was a little surprised by it too. I'm pretty sure he would have had a secret clearance before. Recent changes to the regulation has greatly reduced the number of MOS's that didn't previously require a security clearance; almost everyone is going to be required to have at least a secret clearance now. At least in the Army; I don't know about the other branches. I've actually got 111 folks in my entire brigade (including subordinate units) that need clearances, so I've got some work to do.

Setting that aside, however, it doesn't change what others have said. You can have a fairly high level clearance and yet never come into contact with the really high level stuff. So for Ms. Gallop, I'm not impressed by her "Top Secret". Does anyone know what she did while in the military? Or what her MOS was?
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That is an interesting situation....never heard of that happening before....

You are correct...the current situation has increased the number of SECRET clearances being granted due to necessity....many people get it during deployments too....the Army and Air Force have 5 or 6 similar MOS fields that all require a clearance...the Navy and Marines are a bit differnet but not too much different.

Ms. Gallop doesn't seem impressive in ANY regard lol...she seems like a typical truther.

And you are right about the TS...

If you imagine access to information being like a hotel with rooms...
a "SECRET" gets you into the lobby and a "TOP SECRET" gets you access to use the elevator to reach most of the floors....to get into the actual rooms you will need more and to get to special floors (and then the rooms) you will need even more....
 
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newton3376 said:
LOL Nice....

You were in the Auzzie military, is that correct?
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A late starter in the reserves. "Royal Australian Engineers" which includes the Field Engineers and Construction Engineers. Under old fashioned 'conventional warfare' the former were the combat engineers and the latter the behind the lines or communication zone engineers. The AU (and UK) armies have another Corps of engineers - RAEME - the electrical and mechanical types. Similar split up - they maintain every bit of machinery.
 
ozeco41 said:
A late starter in the reserves. "Royal Australian Engineers" which includes the Field Engineers and Construction Engineers. Under old fashioned 'conventional warfare' the former were the combat engineers and the latter the behind the lines or communication zone engineers. The AU (and UK) armies have another Corps of engineers - RAEME - the electrical and mechanical types. Similar split up - they maintain every bit of machinery.
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Cool....

The Auzzies and Brits are okay with me :)

Good guys from what I've seen and competent too....
 
Noel Sepulveda's account of April's rescue.

There was a set of double doors that had blown, that had gotten blown out. And, so, I went in through there, and, started yelling for people.
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So she did not exit via the entry hole as she has claimed.

And, we started working together to pull people out of there. One of the things that MR. COLFELDER actually handed me a, what I, for a minute, I thought were a bunch of rags, but, actually, it was a baby. And, then, come to find out that, you know, the mother was also, was also there. Apparently, this lady had brought the baby in for her office folks to see him, kind of thing.
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She was the only 'victim' with a baby so no doubts to her identity. Alan Wallace provides more detail as to exactly where the doors were located.

I proceeded to go around the back of the fire truck and into this area that had a door there just to the south of where the fire truck was parked. I have never seen these doors open. But I think what had happened -- they were huge, big, wooden doors and they're all around the building. These doors did not have any handles on them as I recall on the outside. And there was like a set of steps, maybe two or three steps high that went up to this area though that went right up to the doors . These doors were completely gone. They were probably blown out of the building.
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http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/docs/blue12.jpg
 
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There was a set of double doors that had blown, that had gotten blown out. And, so, I went in through there, and, started yelling for people.
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OMG! They were blown! Obviously wired with explosives as the word can't mean anything else. BTW, Why are so many doors labeled "PULL"?
 
Pinch said:
Re: "Career army officer"

Attention to detail is lost on these idiotic morons. Dwayne Deets can be thrown in that same category. I really am amazed that someone with such an astounding lack of attention to detail has risen so far up the ladder of success in such a technical field. It convinces me that his areas of responsibility really weren't that important or critical in the technical minutia of NASA work, or that this particular branch of NASA research was really insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
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we have to remember that being sane and competent at one time is no guarantee of that later in life. Mental illness is a terrible thing.
 
sheeplesnshills said:
we have to remember that being sane and competent at one time is no guarantee of that later in life. Mental illness is a terrible thing.
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The onset of PTSD can be rather sudden. I thought Rosie O'Donnel was funny up until the next time I saw her on TV after 9/11.

Probably didn't take long for Ms Gallop, either.
 
leftysergeant said:
The onset of PTSD can be rather sudden. I thought Rosie O'Donnel was funny up until the next time I saw her on TV after 9/11.

Probably didn't take long for Ms Gallop, either.
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Well, on the first page of her suit, she does claim head and brain injuries.

Anybody know how the appeal turned out today?
 
Wolrab said:
OMG! They were blown! Obviously wired with explosives as the word can't mean anything else. BTW, Why are so many doors labeled "PULL"?
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I don't think you're cleared for that information:).
 
Clayton Moore said:
Gallop v. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Myers will be heard by the United States Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit
on April 5th, 2011, at 11 a.m.
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That was today. And I don't see anything on CNN.com that says that an appeals court declared 9-11 an inside job and put out arrest warrants on Cheney, Rumsfeld and Myers. No mention of the case at all on 9-11 Blogger ("Paying Attention to 9/11 Related News"). It's not a published decision or even a summary ruling on the court's website.

Anybody got an update?
 
I found what is apparently her lawyer William Beale doing a radio interview with Kevin Barrett earlier today, after the hearing at the top of this page:

http: // noliesradio. org/archives/32320

... Beale appears about 23 minutes into the show ... still listening ... doesn't sound like it went well for him. Initial discussion seems to be about a Judge John M. Walker on the panel (of three judges) hearing the appeal, potentially related to that "other" "W."

Says he had filed a motion to disqualify Walker, court denied it, ... moved for continuance to review that denial ... denied ... made arguments. "there it is, we did the best we could" ... also says the court asked him a lot of "impertinent and demeaning questions."

"You take a look at him, and he's a Bush ..."

Apparently no actual decision came from the proceeding as of now, Beale says a fed judge can decide whatever he wants, this afternoon, years down the road, whatever ... assumes they will affirm the judgement of the lower court. Beale says there are other avenues for appeal he can take ....

43-44 minutes in: ... "I know that there was a conspiracy" ... "inside job, that's a fact"
 
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oody said:
I found what is apparently her lawyer William Beale doing a radio interview with Kevin Barrett earlier today, after the hearing at the top of this page:

http: // noliesradio. org/archives/32320

... Beale appears about 23 minutes into the show ... still listening ... doesn't sound like it went well for him. Initial discussion seems to be about a Judge John M. Walker on the panel (of three judges) hearing the appeal, potentially related to that "other" "W."

Says he had filed a motion to disqualify Walker, court denied it, ... moved for continuance to review that denial ... denied ... made arguments. "there it is, we did the best we could" ... also says the court asked him a lot of "impertinent and demeaning questions."

"You take a look at him, and he's a Bush ..."

Apparently no actual decision came from the proceeding as of now, Beale says a fed judge can decide whatever he wants, this afternoon, years down the road, whatever ... assumes they will affirm the judgement of the lower court. Beale says there are other avenues for appeal he can take ....
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Sounds like a crappy lawyer. Motions to remove a judge because he looks like a Bush and his last name is Walker......no proof, just speculation. (like all good troofers)
Basic rule for attorneys is never ask a question ( in court) to which you do not already know the answer, or else you end up with gloves not fitting and a murderer being acquitted.
 
oody said:
I found what is apparently her lawyer William Beale doing a radio interview with Kevin Barrett earlier today, after the hearing at the top of this page......


... Beale appears about 23 minutes into the show ... still listening ... doesn't sound like it went well for him. Initial discussion seems to be about a Judge John M. Walker on the panel (of three judges) hearing the appeal, potentially related to that "other" "W."

Says he had filed a motion to disqualify Walker, court denied it, ... moved for continuance to review that denial ... denied ... made arguments. "there it is, we did the best we could" ... also says the court asked him a lot of "impertinent and demeaning questions."

"You take a look at him, and he's a Bush ..."

Apparently no actual decision came from the proceeding as of now, Beale says a fed judge can decide whatever he wants, this afternoon, years down the road, whatever ... assumes they will affirm the judgement of the lower court. Beale says there are other avenues for appeal he can take ....
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Thanks for the link.

Skip to 23:40 for the beginning of the attorney's spiel. The attorney's reason for asking for the recusal of Judge Walker is because his name is Walker and he "looks" like a Bush. How scientific. He says you can't make this stuff up, but I think he may be doing just that.

There was no decision today.

I got tired of listening at 36:00. There's a ball game on TV.
 
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