DGM
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Got that. Did you notice all of the search results give you the same "center for 9/11 truth and justice" release.
Merged April Gallop / Gallop lawsuit thrown out / Appeal denied
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Yes, I did. Maybe it IS some kind of conspiract to ignore the irrelevant fools over there.....
Maybe LashL can help us out with some LegalTainment?!?!?!
**Bows three times towards Toronto**
*Oh Goddess of Legaltainment,
We humbly bow to your superior knowledge, and as loyal servants of your evil plan to take over, we ask that you please assist us intaking over the world OOPS! I mean, .........crap.....**
Give us a hand LashL.
Maybe LashL can help us out with some LegalTainment?!?!?!
**Bows three times towards Toronto**
*Oh Goddess of Legaltainment,
We humbly bow to your superior knowledge, and as loyal servants of your evil plan to take over, we ask that you please assist us in
Give us a hand LashL.
DGM
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My biggest fear is she's paying some legal "team" big bucks and will eventually end up with nothing after they exploit her for all she's worth. Personally, I think she's being played.
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(*Bows three times towards Toronto, sings invocation hymn*)
The only thing being heard in the United States Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit on April 5th, 2011, at 11 a.m. is whether or not April Gallop will be allowed to continue with the lawsuit.
The lawsuit was dismissed with prejudice, which is legalese for "do not bother us with this nonsense again." April Gallop appealed the dismissal, as is her right. That is all that is being decided here. All they can do is vacate the dismissal and remand for further proceedings.
It need hardly be said that an appeal to continue with a lawsuit that was dismissed for being frivolous is not the least bit newsworthy.
There are several issues that should be part of the record here at JREF:
1 - "Top Secret Military Specialist April Gallop saw disturbing things up close that have not been reported in the media."
No, She didn't. Here's her CMH Interview. She didn't remember much of anything in Oct 2001.
http://bluecollarrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/neit214.pdf
2 - She was a "Career Army Officer".
Her Attorney says she was career oriented. She was not an Officer. (see below.)
3 - "She was a Top Secret Military Specialist" - This is technically correct, but implies more than is there = hyperbole. She was a Spec 4 (E4) Administrative Clerk with a Top Secret Clearance. That translates to a low ranking Secretarial type person with a Security Clearance possessed by thousands of people in all of the services. She likely had the clearance for reasons related to typing and/or filing those types of documents.
4 - "Amazingly, the infant <her infant son> was given immediate security clearance upon arrival."
Her son was about 4 months old!
5 - "Escaping through the hole reportedly made by Flight 77, she saw no signs of an aircraft – no seats, luggage, metal, or human remains."
She didn't look as she was carried out. She has no idea where she exited the building.
6 - "Why then were there no anti-aircraft defenses, Gallop asks, or alarm warnings inside the Pentagon?"
Because there are none at the Pentagon and no one at the Pentagon knew AA 77 was approaching. So much for the "Top Secret Security Clearance". She deduced the Air Defenses based on an in-processing tour of the building.
7 - "Gallop was briefed by officials not to tell her story in public"
Probably to save her embarrassment and harassment by the media more than anything else.
8 - Gallop's case relies on virtually all forms of evidence admissible in court, but significantly, on published scientific evidence that residues of these explosives were found in the rubble after the attacks. In its totality the proffered case establishes that the government hypothesis – that the buildings collapsed due to fire in combination with the airplane impacts – is scientifically untenable.
A LIE.
9 - "Gallop now believes that officials within the Bush Administration conspired to destroy the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and WTC 7 – the third building brought down at 5:20 p.m. that day – with pre-placed explosives detonated after the planes hit."
She knows this how? This is simply typical twoofer fantasy. There is nothing factual about it at all.
The source for the article is apparently her attorney William Veale
1 - "Top Secret Military Specialist April Gallop saw disturbing things up close that have not been reported in the media."
No, She didn't. Here's her CMH Interview. She didn't remember much of anything in Oct 2001.
http://bluecollarrepublican.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/neit214.pdf
2 - She was a "Career Army Officer".
Her Attorney says she was career oriented. She was not an Officer. (see below.)
3 - "She was a Top Secret Military Specialist" - This is technically correct, but implies more than is there = hyperbole. She was a Spec 4 (E4) Administrative Clerk with a Top Secret Clearance. That translates to a low ranking Secretarial type person with a Security Clearance possessed by thousands of people in all of the services. She likely had the clearance for reasons related to typing and/or filing those types of documents.
4 - "Amazingly, the infant <her infant son> was given immediate security clearance upon arrival."
Her son was about 4 months old!
5 - "Escaping through the hole reportedly made by Flight 77, she saw no signs of an aircraft – no seats, luggage, metal, or human remains."
She didn't look as she was carried out. She has no idea where she exited the building.
6 - "Why then were there no anti-aircraft defenses, Gallop asks, or alarm warnings inside the Pentagon?"
Because there are none at the Pentagon and no one at the Pentagon knew AA 77 was approaching. So much for the "Top Secret Security Clearance". She deduced the Air Defenses based on an in-processing tour of the building.
7 - "Gallop was briefed by officials not to tell her story in public"
Probably to save her embarrassment and harassment by the media more than anything else.
8 - Gallop's case relies on virtually all forms of evidence admissible in court, but significantly, on published scientific evidence that residues of these explosives were found in the rubble after the attacks. In its totality the proffered case establishes that the government hypothesis – that the buildings collapsed due to fire in combination with the airplane impacts – is scientifically untenable.
A LIE.
9 - "Gallop now believes that officials within the Bush Administration conspired to destroy the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center and WTC 7 – the third building brought down at 5:20 p.m. that day – with pre-placed explosives detonated after the planes hit."
She knows this how? This is simply typical twoofer fantasy. There is nothing factual about it at all.
The source for the article is apparently her attorney William Veale
"Lie" is putting it mildly. The conjectural, non-factual nature of Gallop's accusations was central to the decision to dismiss the case with prejudice.
Anyone interested should read the legal document previously provided by LashL here, in which the decisions to dismiss with prejudice is clearly spelled out: http://sites.google.com/site/resipsa2006/gallop
If you just want to get the gist of it, you can just read page 12, including the two long footnotes.
I love how truthers love to exaggerate the importance of their supporters of of people who they think back their view. How many times have we seen DiMartini described as the designer of the WTC or Ryan labelled a UL exec with no mention of the fact he was a water tester etc etc?
Gallop was an administrative assistant in the accounting office. I've only seen truthers claim she had 'top secret' clearance. IF true is probably has more to do with the Pentagon being highly secretive than her access super sensitive info.
Like Rodriguez she turned truther well after 9/11 and has reinterpreted what she saw to fit her fantasies. Neither of their initial accounts supports an 'inside job'
DGM
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Has anyone heard who's paying for all this?
DGM
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That's my fear. I have no problem with her receiving compensation for what she endured that day. I just have this gut feeling she's being lead along and will end up broke.
TruthersLie
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So while being injured in the line of duty is honorable... she is a lying money grabbing sack of ****.
It is ok for her to lie to get a payday from the government in her AA lawsuit when she took their money because flight 77 injured her... but you want us to believe her NOW????
It would really help if any of your "witnesses" weren't lying money grabbing sacks of ****.
It might help to give any believability to any person if they weren't lying out fo their asses.
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I'm glad to see you admit that April Gallop will lie for a few dollars.
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April's April 5th hearing
Mainstream reports would not find information about April 5th on the www.CenterFor911Justice.org web site. Probably attorneys prefer not to make public statements before important hearings as a general policy. Also he's probably very busy preparing his presentation for the judge. I emailed William Veale to suggest he update his site. His response was:
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: April's April 5th hearing
The hearing on April 5th is the oral argument on the appeal that we filed when our case was dismissed by Judge Chin. We are a long way from trial. I haven't had time to write a thorough explanation for the web site. I appreciate your interest.
Bill Veale
Attorneys are in high demand at $250/hour helping people avoid foreclosure. William Veale is doing a lot of work on this for free. April was offered money to shut up or else. They are obviously not doing it for the money, but out of a sincere devotion to justice.
Mainstream reports would not find information about April 5th on the www.CenterFor911Justice.org web site. Probably attorneys prefer not to make public statements before important hearings as a general policy. Also he's probably very busy preparing his presentation for the judge. I emailed William Veale to suggest he update his site. His response was:
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:51 PM
Subject: April's April 5th hearing
The hearing on April 5th is the oral argument on the appeal that we filed when our case was dismissed by Judge Chin. We are a long way from trial. I haven't had time to write a thorough explanation for the web site. I appreciate your interest.
Bill Veale
Attorneys are in high demand at $250/hour helping people avoid foreclosure. William Veale is doing a lot of work on this for free. April was offered money to shut up or else. They are obviously not doing it for the money, but out of a sincere devotion to justice.
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Clayton,
Am I to assume you would like to see a new investigation into the events of 9/11?
I have to give it to you Cicorp, you have linked to a truther website where the members have taken more initiative than most Truthers. They have included a legal complaint document that can be filed through any civil court in the United States. Now do they have plans to go any further with this document and actually go to court to file their complaint against Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, et al?
Her attorney wrote a friggin' press release! It's what we've been talking about all this time. Do try to keep up.
DGM
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The case was dismissed WITH PREJUDICE
http://www.centerfor911justice.org/news/chin=20decision-1.pdf
The money quote...."If anything, the allegations are the product of cynical delusion and fantasy"
And you are excited about an appeal against that decision?
