Media Matters' war against Fox

TsarBomba said:
Per the IRS, a 501(c)(3) tax exempt organization is "may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates."

The argument that their putative war against Fox news would threaten their tax exempt status would be the assertion by MM that Fox News is affiliated with the GOP and that their attack on Fox News is thus their attempt to attack a political party, which (it would then be argued) is the functional equivalent of participating in campaign activity against GOP candidates. If there is actually an official political race going on (ie declared candidates, etc) then I think that the argument is a good one and MM would be risking it's tax exempt status.
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But doesn't such an argument result in the direct official admission that Fox, itself, is a biased news organization geared towards promoting Republican Candidates?
 
It is MM making that assertion, not Fox. And even if Fox is a shill for the Republicans (or, perhaps worse, an activist corporation trying to push the GOP ever farther to the lunatic fringe on an ongoing basis), who cares. Fox has a perfect right to be so. They do not claim to be a tax exempt or charitable organization.
 
TsarBomba said:
It is MM making that assertion, not Fox. And even if Fox is a shill for the Republicans (or, perhaps worse, an activist corporation trying to push the GOP ever farther to the lunatic fringe on an ongoing basis), who cares. Fox has a perfect right to be so. They do not claim to be a tax exempt or charitable organization.
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Fox claims to be "fair and balanced". MM shows that this is not the case. Showing that an organization is geared towards promoting one party does not constitute campaign activity.
 
leftysergeant said:
Fox is doing it to ACORN, Planned Parenthood and the unions. If they want to whine and throw a tantrum about it, too bad. We'll listen when they banish Breitbart, Malkin, Beck and pimp boy O'Keefe from any of their outlets.
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"They" who? Who should be acceptable and allowable to "them"?

daredelvis said:
Very clever comrade. I'm sure your issues will be addressed in the reeducation camp. It was very helpful of you to report yourself in this post.
Do svidanya,
The Committee
Daredelvis
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You have no idea. I will be promptly eliminated even though they know I don't give a damn about this world.

Tricky said:
Speaking of media wars, does anyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh really believe anything they read on Politico? I'll wait to see if this is picked up by any major news outlets.
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Wait for what? You doubt this minor foreshadowing of the consistent Leftist behavior of silencing and eliminating dissent whenever they can actually do so? Do you have any doubt that Leftists hate the Right?

thaiboxerken said:
It is not a partisan view that Fox News is a leader of the GOP. It's an observation of reality. For example, most of the GOP Presidential primary candidates were employed by Fox or frequent guests.
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To Lefties, not being always and only against the Right, Republicans and Conservatives is to be GOP. The rest of the media, that is against the Right, is not Left to you Lefties.

Thunder said:
Fox News is part of the RNC political machine.
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What dissenters from liberal positions are respectable?

geni said:
Yada yada yada. Yes the PR line was fairly predictable. Was there anything you wanted to disscuss.
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Yeah, sure. Do you favor silencing and eliminating voices that oppose The Left?

TheAntiV said:
Doesn't this sort of think just bring more attention to Fox News and boosts their ratings which they've been constantly boasting about? There's an easier way to hurt Fox: just don't watch them.
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"Hurt FOX"...

I Am The Scum said:
Okay, so you don't like propoganda... and you're concerned about criticism of Fox News?

What?
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No.

No, I'm mainly concerned just that the rest of you, all of freaking you, that claim to be so freaking concerned, are only freaking concerned about FOX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
 
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leftysergeant said:
Weren't the Slime Boat Veterans a 501 (c)(3)?
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but were they drooling?

pgwenthold said:
Fox wants to eat its cake and have it, too. They want to claim they are special compared to everyone else, but then complain when people view them differently from everyone else.
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Huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Hy7uAb_eU

The Central Scrutinizer said:
Like Fox "News", no intelligent person takes Media Matters seriously.
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FOX has a very big audience. Media Matters is taken very seriously by Progressives. George Soros takes them very multi-millions seriously... but you do not. Gotcha.

pgwenthold said:
The issue of MM being a non-profit organization was brought up in this thread, and is not the basis for the whining in the article in the op.

They are crying solely because MM is exposing Fox's problems.
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Who's whining or crying?
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TheAntiV said:
Doesn't this sort of think just bring more attention to Fox News and boosts their ratings which they've been constantly boasting about? There's an easier way to hurt Fox: just don't watch them.
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This ^^^

As Fox News loses more and more viewers, I think the electorate in the United States will become a bit more reasonable. Ironically, I think this decline in viewership will cause Fox to become even more nutty & extreme, which will only drive more people away. Serves them right.
 
Pointing out Fox's lies and deceit is a rather useful tactic to try to get people to watch the station less. To simply not criticize them only lends them free pass to continue brainwashing the morons that watch Fox news.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Pointing out Fox's lies and deceit is a rather useful tactic to try to get people to watch the station less. To simply not criticize them only lends them free pass to continue brainwashing the morons that watch Fox news.
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What is the correct not-moron channel to watch?

What other channels or opinions are or shall be verboten?
 
JudeBrando said:
What is the correct not-moron channel to watch?

What other channels or opinions are or shall be verboten?
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CNN, NBC, MSNBC, CSPAN, CBS, PBS, BBC...all good channels to watch, they actually try to be objective.

Conservative talk radio is for morons as well.
 
Taarkin said:
Who said anything about "verboten".
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Apparently, when Fox News expresses an opinion it's "free speech". But when anyone else expresses an opinion about Fox News, it's "silencing the opposition".

Welcome to the hypocritical world of delusional paranoia.
 
But that's what Fox and the rest of the conservative media wants to portray as Media Matter's mission. Criticism = censorship, apparently.
 
The most telling thing about Fox vs MM is that the MM normally has transcripts or video to back up their claims and Fox usually inevitably answers this with “MM are liberals” as if saying that is a valid response to the facts presented.
 
Neally said:
As your link pointed out, all the networks are losing viewers to the internet. But let's hope that the electorate does become more reasonable and vote out Obama in the next election and continue to reduce the union power.
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Wait, you hope they vote Obama out without even knowing who would be voted in? That's not exactly reasonable. If a better candidate than Obama is running, yeah, I'd hope he gets voted out too. If there are only worse candidates running, I'd hope he gets reelected. That's reasonable, not simply wanting him voted out.
 
lomiller said:
The most telling thing about Fox vs MM is that the MM normally has transcripts or video to back up their claims and Fox usually inevitably answers this with “MM are liberals” as if saying that is a valid response to the facts presented.
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Exactly. It's astounding to me that ad-hom isn't called out more here on the politics board. Show that MM is wrong consistently or are lying, don't just handwave them as 'liberal'. There are a lot of sites that we here tend to dismiss for being consistently wrong, not because they are consistently wrong and conservative, or liberal.
 
Neally said:
Point taken. Let's just say the GOP top runners right now, as weak as some are, are all preferable to Obama.
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Let's not say that because it's an opinion founded on nothing of substance. All the GOP candidates lining up are nuttier than squirrel poop.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Let's not say that because it's an opinion founded on nothing of substance. All the GOP candidates lining up are nuttier than squirrel poop.
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Well then, do present your objective, non opinionated analysis supporting the claim that GOP candidates are nuttier than squirrel poop.
 
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