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Merged nuclear power safe?

DC said:
So far i have heard something like that only from "Die Linke" they wanted to moderate nuclear technology worldwide.
Others wanted it only for Germany.
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There's no need to "want" anything in Germany any more. The law says that nuclear power plants are being phased out and it has said that for many years now.

The existing plants have been assigned individual grace periods, i.e. they were licensed to produce so much more power before decommissioning.

Those licenses have been extended (a year or two ago, I think) giving the plants around 8 years of extra time. (The time frames can only be guessed: The licenses are for energy produced and can be transferred from older to newer plants.) There's just now been a move to revoke these extensions and several of the oldest plans have been shut down now.
 
So we've basically got the same situation as yesterday, but slightly more dangerous and with a one hour gap when the radiation seriously spiked?

Meh, colour me remarkably unimpressed if that's thee case.
 
Christian Klippel said:
Still watching your failure to read the threads here and follow the links given as well as the ones you will find on the linked sites.

Again, no, i will not spoon feed you. I found that through reading all of that information on the links and their follow ups given here. Do some effort of your own. I cant be bothered to do your homework, so stop asking already.
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you are simply a liar, and you made up something and are now unable to present a source. instead of admiting yes you made it up, you now claim there are links confirming it, if that was the case, you would have linked to the link, but you can't because you simply made up the story about venting not directly inot the enviroment to prefent panic fearmongering etc.......

why can't you simply admit it or provide a link that confirms your story?
 
DC said:
you are simply a liar, and you made up something and are now unable to present a source. instead of admiting yes you made it up, you now claim there are links confirming it, if that was the case, you would have linked to the link, but you can't because you simply made up the story about venting not directly inot the enviroment to prefent panic fearmongering etc.......

why can't you simply admit it or provide a link that confirms your story?
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Maybe because you don't actually bother to read things provided even when they are part of posts you respond to?
 
PhantomWolf said:
Monday Quater-backing sums up this entire post. All engineering has to consider what risk it is willing to counter, the effects of a 1,000 year earth quake, the 5th largest ever recorded, and then being hit by a 10m high tsunami is pretty unlikely. You might as well ask why the WTC wasn't built to withstand the impact and fires of a high speed 767.
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No. Japan is a high risk area. This is a given. The means to ensure the power supply to backup generators is reliable is quite cheap, and available. Having three insecure means of power to run the cooling in the event of a major quake is no real security at all.

Batteries. Only very short time. High capacity battery system are now available 40 years later. This would not have cost a lot to rectify.
External. Very vulnerable to major quakes. Cannot be relied on.
Generators. Placement made them vulnerable to tsunami. They did not need to be place so low, without real protection from inundation. This would not have cost a lot to rectify.
 
DC said:
nonsense. he is a liar, thats it.
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Yes, of course. It can't be you that's wrong, despite the fact that you're the only one saying it. Praise be everyone! We're all wrong and DC the true prophet has shown us the light! :rolleyes:

Even if he did lie about that, so what? That doesnt make anything else he's said more or less true. That he actually backs up what he's saying rather than just throwing out suppositions without reference makes him a far more credible poster than you, even if he's lying through his teeth about that one particular thing.
 
Nothing is 100% safe. How does it really compare?

How many people died at 3 mile island?
How many people died during the Gulf of Mexico BP accident?

It just seems to me that the damages from oil spills are greater than from the nuke accidents. People are impressed by drama. The Hindenberg put a stop to that kind of air ships for luxury trips. Maybe people are associating the Hiroshima bomb with the Japanese power plant. People are stupid.
 
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For what it's worth DC, I don't think you're anti-nuke. I do think that you're convinced that you're right and are stubbornly refusing to back down, despite the evidence provided, but that's more pig-headedness than anti-nuke beliefs.
 
Bill Thompson said:
Nothing is 100% safe. How does it really compare?

How many people died at 3 mile island?
How many people died during the Gulf of Mexico BP accident?

It just seems to me that the damage from oil spills are greater than the nuke accidents. People are impressed by drama. The Hindenberg put a stop to that kind of air ships for luxury trips.
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That's quite possibly the most sensible thing I've heard you say.
 
Please have a look at this animation from Dutch television.

It shows what went wrong (loss of coolant, emergency coolant injected), but also shows what would happen in case of a meltdown.

The reactor vessel is on 30 cm thick (according to this news item).
The reactor building has a hole in it.

based on this information, it looks like a meltdown would result in quite lot of radioactive material escaping the building, not just causing a huge molten mess in the reactor vessel as many here claim (if I remember correctly).

Can those in the know enlighten me?

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http://nos.nl/video/225894-wat-gebeurde-er-precies-bij-de-explosie-in-reactor-2.html
 
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MarkCorrigan said:
Yes, of course. It can't be you that's wrong, despite the fact that you're the only one saying it. Praise be everyone! We're all wrong and DC the true prophet has shown us the light! :rolleyes:

Even if he did lie about that, so what? That doesnt make anything else he's said more or less true. That he actually backs up what he's saying rather than just throwing out suppositions without reference makes him a far more credible poster than you, even if he's lying through his teeth about that one particular thing.
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Its surely possible i am wrong, and his story about not venting directly into the air is correct, i wanted to be sure, so i asked for a link becuase i dont just take the word of some forum poster. He was unable to provide a source for his claims, so i have to asume he made it up.

when you have a source confirming his story, post it, and i will gladly admit that i was wrong, have done several times, i have no problem with that, but you gotta have a source before you confince me.

surely we can for hours debate about it now, but it would all end if that alleged link would be provided. or him admiting the made up story.
 
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