Merged 8.8 quake in Sendai, Japan

Last of the Fraggles said:
If the bit in bold was actually what news media did we wouldn't be having this conversation. What they actually do is take the information they get, regurgitate it in a sexed up fashion and then ask people who may or may not know what they are talking about to speculate on what might be the case based on insufficient information.
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Sounds like my projects manager.
 
DC said:
when you call him a crywolf, then you are indeed clueless.
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And you did not answer the question. I am starting to assume you just searched for the FIRST guy which agreed with your theory, then stick to that. You don't know who that guy was, and how he is perceived, and who he is actually working today for. But hey continue your "cry wolf" ad hom.

I think I will simply ignore your post from now on. I see no reason disturbing other poster with your useless comments.
 
DC said:
News channels actually invite real experts and not some bigmouthed JREFers.
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A lot of the 'nuclear experts' I have seen on TV have actually been anti-nuclear campaigners or representatives of some dodgy pressure group/watchdog.

Quite a few have had no idea about nuclear safety or nuclear power plant design or anything else.

One 'nuclear analyst' on the radio on my way home just now said that there has been a catastrophic failure of the safety systems and that this highlights a fatal flaw in our approach to nuclear safety. He made the point this was a simple fact and nobody could disagree with it.

Now maybe we have different definitions of catastrophic failure but I had to remind myself that at the time of this interview as far as we were aware nobody had died in this incident and that the safety systems have do far done their jobs in preventing any deaths.
 
Aepervius said:
And you did not answer the question. I am starting to assume you just searched for the FIRST guy which agreed with your theory, then stick to that. You don't know who that guy was, and how he is perceived, and who he is actually working today for. But hey continue your "cry wolf" ad hom.

I think I will simply ignore your post from now on. I see no reason disturbing other poster with your useless comments.
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yeah runn.....:rolleyes:
 
DC said:
i dont think they are a good thing, i was kinda suprised therer was no way to release the hydrogen in a more controlled fashion.

how you can say its a good thing is beyond me......
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Yes please explain to me how you release something that literally is the perfect combination for a flash explosion. This is really sad. This isn't even approaching nuclear expert level of knowledge but I should have learned this elementary school level of knowledge.
 
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technoextreme said:
They aren't going to render the reactors safe without having the explosions occur. The news reports at one point said that the reactor that was the worst off was the one that actually hadn't exploded (Reactor 2) because surprise surprise the lack of explosion was associated with it not being able to vent the gasses. Not being able to vent the gasses means that the pressure will rise. If the pressure rises to much the entire containment vessel will blow like a pressure cooker without a safety valve installed.
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Yep understand that, but I was speaking of the way the explosion was portrayed and the implied sinister consequence. And they were speaking of reactor 1.
 
Last of the Fraggles said:
A lot of the 'nuclear experts' I have seen on TV have actually been anti-nuclear campaigners or representatives of some dodgy pressure group/watchdog.

Quite a few have had no idea about nuclear safety or nuclear power plant design or anything else.

One 'nuclear analyst' on the radio on my way home just now said that there has been a catastrophic failure of the safety systems and that this highlights a fatal flaw in our approach to nuclear safety. He made the point this was a simple fact and nobody could disagree with it.

Now maybe we have different definitions of catastrophic failure but I had to remind myself that at the time of this interview as far as we were aware nobody had died in this incident and that the safety systems have do far done their jobs in preventing any deaths.
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$the savety systems did fail, the cooling should be running on generators when they have a blackout at the plant, the tsunami destroyed them.
yes the savety system failed. but not a catastrophic fallout scenario happened and is like to be prevented. ut nontheless we will have to take a look at the system again, so far we didnt really expect the savety systems being wiped out.
 
technoextreme said:
Yes please explain to me how you release something that literally is the perfect combination for a flash explosion. This is really sad. This isn't even approaching nuclear expert level of knowledge but I should have learned this elementary school level of knowledge.
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our containers with gas compressors had a system to burn of gasses that could be in the container surounding the comressor, i expected a nuke plant has something similar, but usually there is no hydrogen production under normal operation. but still i dont see it as something good.
it could have been worse, but good?
 
let`s talk said:
You can donate blood, if you are qualified: :rolleyes: :eek: :eye-poppi :jaw-dropp :confused:
www.mutantfrog.com/2011/03/13/who-can-and-can-not-donate-blood-in-japan/
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That counts me out.

I've tried to donate blood before but being an Englishman was refused.

I am not sure what the purpose of refusing blood is. I do know that no one wants mad-cow-tainted blood as their first option but if it was at the bottom of the cool box and only used in an emergency then surely the person benefitting from it would be happy to take their chances and survive certain death now at the risk of a billion to one chance of getting mad cow disease.
 
Turning from fear to fear. I hope the Japanese and other folks on the islands can keep their bravery up.

I feel awful for the situation. :(
 
angrysoba said:
That counts me out.

I've tried to donate blood before but being an Englishman was refused.

I am not sure what the purpose of refusing blood is. I do know that no one wants mad-cow-tainted blood as their first option but if it was at the bottom of the cool box and only used in an emergency then surely the person benefitting from it would be happy to take their chances and survive certain death now at the risk of a billion to one chance of getting mad cow disease.
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My thoughts exactly.
Sounds like we're both -barely- allowed to bleed on Japanese soil. :)
 
DC said:
our containers with gas compressors had a system to burn of gasses that could be in the container surounding the comressor, i expected a nuke plant has something similar, but usually there is no hydrogen production under normal operation. but still i dont see it as something good.
it could have been worse, but good?
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You have no freaking clue how nuclear reactors work and what the hell actually precipitated the explosion do you?
 
Belz... said:
Ah, the heart of Mazda !

I own a Mazda. In fact, Québec buys so many of them, hopefully it's send some needed cash your way. :)
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Although unaffected physically there was some uncertainty whether Mazda would shut down but it now sounds like they'll halt operations as well because of trouble getting parts distributed. (Toyota, Honda, Nissan in similar situations.)
Heard that they were aiding in the rescue efforts.
 
technoextreme said:
You have no freaking clue how nuclear reactors work and what the hell actually precipitated the explosion do you?
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according to experts, do to the overheating rods Hydrogen was formed inside the vessel and flowed into the building and caused an explosion.

but im sure JREFers know it far better than experts.
 
DC said:
according to experts, do to the overheating rods Hydrogen was formed inside the vessel and flowed into the building and caused an explosion.

but im sure JREFers know it far better than experts.
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Actually, that is really kind of sad that you don't.
 
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